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Qyp
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:58 pm


ProtoXtreme
Qyp


I am against the idea of taking a further hit to Constitution for obvious reasons because it's dumb primarily IC under the system (Hp already doesn't hold up against Taijutsu damage, nevertheless weaponry). Itachi was fatally ill, that does not mean every Uchiha was fatally frail.

I am however open to the idea of Uchiha working for their buffs.

Keep in mind though Qyp that part of why I'm careful against the idea of reworking Uchiha in any way, shape or form is because everything you put forth will be exclusive to a bloodline. That means, as head count stands, it will affect me, Mini's Shinichi, and Cleric's girl. Because I will personally see to the strangling of anyone who's doing the eye-ripping business. In contrast, through the Yin and Yang Dojos which I'll establish as the core of Konoha's shinobi ranking advancement system, much of what's under Senju can actually potentially be learned by any Konohagakurian.

That's why I tore up all the work I did on a collaborative project over the Lava and Boil Release. (It's all in my head though, so if I want to, I can easily reproduce it.) And destroyed all the sketch work on Konoha Jutsus. I think we can safely agree at this present stage, Jutsus available for everyone is more important than customized business.

Yeah, I will make sure it is fair.

On that subject... "Non-Senju lineage learners will be doing each training stage out of 0/15 instead."

Does that count Uchiha? If not, then I guess I do not need to get too carried away with stuff. Have a few exclusive techniques. I was thinking since Uchiha are known to be good with weapons, have a Bukijutsu training special for them...

So Fire, Weapons, Blaze... and I suppose they would have the ability to learn the Yin-Yang stuff.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:59 pm


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Qyp, no, Mini never sent me anything regarding Uchiha.

Also, while I know I'm using Akeru to teach the upcoming squad, that doesn't mean I'm all chummy with the idea of getting entangled with that clan's mess again. Kishi isn't exactly my most favorite mangka in the world right now and Aki feels fine the way he is. I really don't want to discuss things like 'Uchiha Return' because I'm busy pretending a whole arc never got published.

So I'm sitting out any changes to the clan. Quit poking me about them.

Okay...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:06 pm


Qyp


I know Aki's whole backstory/clan interpretation premise is on "most probably mixed blood lineage by now because it's 1000 whole years later".

That said, non-IC guild matters is more politics if anything.

I personally would assume Uchiha should be doing it out of the same count as Senju. Before you actually go and take my statement as fact though, go get Nao's permission.

You know how I feel about Enton already so I won't restate that sentiment here.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:08 pm


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Qyp


I am against the idea of taking a further hit to Constitution for obvious reasons because it's dumb primarily IC under the system (Hp already doesn't hold up against Taijutsu damage, nevertheless weaponry). Itachi was fatally ill, that does not mean every Uchiha was fatally frail.

I am however open to the idea of Uchiha working for their buffs.

Keep in mind though Qyp that part of why I'm careful against the idea of reworking Uchiha in any way, shape or form is because everything you put forth will be exclusive to a bloodline. That means, as head count stands, it will affect me, Mini's Shinichi, and Cleric's girl. Because I will personally see to the strangling of anyone who's doing the eye-ripping business. In contrast, through the Yin and Yang Dojos which I'll establish as the core of Konoha's shinobi ranking advancement system, much of what's under Senju can actually potentially be learned by any Konohagakurian.

That's why I tore up all the work I did on a collaborative project over the Lava and Boil Release. (It's all in my head though, so if I want to, I can easily reproduce it.) And destroyed all the sketch work on Konoha Jutsus. I think we can safely agree at this present stage, Jutsus available for everyone is more important than customized business.


Yup, quite true. As long as we don't go into the "Let me have your eyeballs" and "spamming unstoppable AOE attacks" or "Oh we have such a tragic background history that I need to shed more blood" rage... >.> I'm willing to go with the working for the benefits type of training. Or you know, who says we can't pass down the Uchiha techniques? Technically the eyes are just a buff, all the other character traits were simply trained. The clan itself is just a normal one with buffs when the Sharingan is activated, no? Itachi(Kami bless his heart) was just a hardcore training lover, and the eyes were just there to help him. I really don't think the eyes should be that important, especially as we're not going to go into the Mangekyo and beyond(Kami bless Proto's good heart and common sense). I'd think it would be better to have a regular (or small +-) stat, only changing when/if the Sharingan develops. But stats aside, I agree with Proto in that we should be careful, but I do see the need to edit the Uchiha clan like there were changes to the Senju, mainly storyline-wise(damn you Kishi) and because I feel that we should make it more open. Open, as in more like what Proto did to the Senju jutsu, and perhaps incorporate the eye linage into a common jutsu that people can achieve similar workings as the Sharingan as long as there was effort and a moderate level of training. I'm not opposed to the idea anyway.

Eh, that kind of got a little out of hand. Anyway, just tossing that out there. : p

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:10 pm


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Fret not. Everything's in the archives. I didn't go on a deletion rampage this time.

/Edit/
To answer your question, I'm reconstructing the village.


Thank you Dx and good luck with the revamp! :3
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:12 pm


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Qyp


I am against the idea of taking a further hit to Constitution for obvious reasons because it's dumb primarily IC under the system (Hp already doesn't hold up against Taijutsu damage, nevertheless weaponry). Itachi was fatally ill, that does not mean every Uchiha was fatally frail.

I am however open to the idea of Uchiha working for their buffs.

Keep in mind though Qyp that part of why I'm careful against the idea of reworking Uchiha in any way, shape or form is because everything you put forth will be exclusive to a bloodline. That means, as head count stands, it will affect me, Mini's Shinichi, and Cleric's girl. Because I will personally see to the strangling of anyone who's doing the eye-ripping business. In contrast, through the Yin and Yang Dojos which I'll establish as the core of Konoha's shinobi ranking advancement system, much of what's under Senju can actually potentially be learned by any Konohagakurian.

That's why I tore up all the work I did on a collaborative project over the Lava and Boil Release. (It's all in my head though, so if I want to, I can easily reproduce it.) And destroyed all the sketch work on Konoha Jutsus. I think we can safely agree at this present stage, Jutsus available for everyone is more important than customized business.


Yup, quite true. As long as we don't go into the "Let me have your eyeballs" and "spamming unstoppable AOE attacks" or "Oh we have such a tragic background history that I need to shed more blood" rage... >.> I'm willing to go with the working for the benefits type of training. Or you know, who says we can't pass down the Uchiha techniques? Technically the eyes are just a buff, all the other character traits were simply trained. The clan itself is just a normal one with buffs when the Sharingan is activated, no? Itachi(Kami bless his heart) was just a hardcore training lover, and the eyes were just there to help him. I really don't think the eyes should be that important, especially as we're not going to go into the Mangekyo and beyond(Kami bless Proto's good heart and common sense). I'd think it would be better to have a regular (or small +-) stat, only changing when/if the Sharingan develops. But stats aside, I agree with Proto in that we should be careful, but I do see the need to edit the Uchiha clan like there were changes to the Senju, mainly storyline-wise(damn you Kishi) and because I feel that we should make it more open. Open, as in more like what Proto did to the Senju jutsu, and perhaps incorporate the eye linage into a common jutsu that people can achieve similar workings as the Sharingan as long as there was effort and a moderate level of training. I'm not opposed to the idea anyway.

Eh, that kind of got a little out of hand. Anyway, just tossing that out there. : p

Eh eh... giving away Sharingan like candy? What? No no no no...

I do not think just anyone can use the Sharingan... NOPE.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:20 pm


Qyp
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ProtoXtreme
Qyp


I am against the idea of taking a further hit to Constitution for obvious reasons because it's dumb primarily IC under the system (Hp already doesn't hold up against Taijutsu damage, nevertheless weaponry). Itachi was fatally ill, that does not mean every Uchiha was fatally frail.

I am however open to the idea of Uchiha working for their buffs.

Keep in mind though Qyp that part of why I'm careful against the idea of reworking Uchiha in any way, shape or form is because everything you put forth will be exclusive to a bloodline. That means, as head count stands, it will affect me, Mini's Shinichi, and Cleric's girl. Because I will personally see to the strangling of anyone who's doing the eye-ripping business. In contrast, through the Yin and Yang Dojos which I'll establish as the core of Konoha's shinobi ranking advancement system, much of what's under Senju can actually potentially be learned by any Konohagakurian.

That's why I tore up all the work I did on a collaborative project over the Lava and Boil Release. (It's all in my head though, so if I want to, I can easily reproduce it.) And destroyed all the sketch work on Konoha Jutsus. I think we can safely agree at this present stage, Jutsus available for everyone is more important than customized business.


Yup, quite true. As long as we don't go into the "Let me have your eyeballs" and "spamming unstoppable AOE attacks" or "Oh we have such a tragic background history that I need to shed more blood" rage... >.> I'm willing to go with the working for the benefits type of training. Or you know, who says we can't pass down the Uchiha techniques? Technically the eyes are just a buff, all the other character traits were simply trained. The clan itself is just a normal one with buffs when the Sharingan is activated, no? Itachi(Kami bless his heart) was just a hardcore training lover, and the eyes were just there to help him. I really don't think the eyes should be that important, especially as we're not going to go into the Mangekyo and beyond(Kami bless Proto's good heart and common sense). I'd think it would be better to have a regular (or small +-) stat, only changing when/if the Sharingan develops. But stats aside, I agree with Proto in that we should be careful, but I do see the need to edit the Uchiha clan like there were changes to the Senju, mainly storyline-wise(damn you Kishi) and because I feel that we should make it more open. Open, as in more like what Proto did to the Senju jutsu, and perhaps incorporate the eye linage into a common jutsu that people can achieve similar workings as the Sharingan as long as there was effort and a moderate level of training. I'm not opposed to the idea anyway.

Eh, that kind of got a little out of hand. Anyway, just tossing that out there. : p

Eh eh... giving away Sharingan like candy? What? No no no no...

I do not think just anyone can use the Sharingan... NOPE.


No, of course you can't just hand out the Sharingan like eye candy that, no. What I'm saying is, with sufficient training, I'm suggesting that, for example, maybe someone could learn to cast genjutsu with eyes, or something like that. I'm not claiming to know the fine details or even the rough draft of what it takes to create new jutsu or whatnot, but I'm just saying that yes, the stat buffs for the Sharingan will be for Uchiha alone, but we could] be a little more open about it, like what Proto did with Senju. The linage is great, sure, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to be using the clan name for their characters. And if that's the case, I'm saying that I'd be willing to tweak a few parts to let others have different ways to train off the Uchiha techniques, perhaps to a lesser extent or less efficiency. Or something similar. I guess there'd be a few people not so happy about that, but we could perhaps consider it if we are changing and modifying the clan stats and techniques, among other things. If that's not possible, then oh well. *shrugs*
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:21 pm


Cleric Saphire


They really need a tipping function in guilds...
*so used to forums*

But yes, everything you said. (I actually made Aki mostly got over his issues with self-therapy, needing sleeping pills aside. c: But hey, PTSD is a difficult matter.)


Qyp


Read what Cleric said again.

She means things like certain physical conditioning methods Uchiha would possibly exclusively use.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:49 pm


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Qyp
Cleric Saphire
ProtoXtreme
Qyp


I am against the idea of taking a further hit to Constitution for obvious reasons because it's dumb primarily IC under the system (Hp already doesn't hold up against Taijutsu damage, nevertheless weaponry). Itachi was fatally ill, that does not mean every Uchiha was fatally frail.

I am however open to the idea of Uchiha working for their buffs.

Keep in mind though Qyp that part of why I'm careful against the idea of reworking Uchiha in any way, shape or form is because everything you put forth will be exclusive to a bloodline. That means, as head count stands, it will affect me, Mini's Shinichi, and Cleric's girl. Because I will personally see to the strangling of anyone who's doing the eye-ripping business. In contrast, through the Yin and Yang Dojos which I'll establish as the core of Konoha's shinobi ranking advancement system, much of what's under Senju can actually potentially be learned by any Konohagakurian.

That's why I tore up all the work I did on a collaborative project over the Lava and Boil Release. (It's all in my head though, so if I want to, I can easily reproduce it.) And destroyed all the sketch work on Konoha Jutsus. I think we can safely agree at this present stage, Jutsus available for everyone is more important than customized business.


Yup, quite true. As long as we don't go into the "Let me have your eyeballs" and "spamming unstoppable AOE attacks" or "Oh we have such a tragic background history that I need to shed more blood" rage... >.> I'm willing to go with the working for the benefits type of training. Or you know, who says we can't pass down the Uchiha techniques? Technically the eyes are just a buff, all the other character traits were simply trained. The clan itself is just a normal one with buffs when the Sharingan is activated, no? Itachi(Kami bless his heart) was just a hardcore training lover, and the eyes were just there to help him. I really don't think the eyes should be that important, especially as we're not going to go into the Mangekyo and beyond(Kami bless Proto's good heart and common sense). I'd think it would be better to have a regular (or small +-) stat, only changing when/if the Sharingan develops. But stats aside, I agree with Proto in that we should be careful, but I do see the need to edit the Uchiha clan like there were changes to the Senju, mainly storyline-wise(damn you Kishi) and because I feel that we should make it more open. Open, as in more like what Proto did to the Senju jutsu, and perhaps incorporate the eye linage into a common jutsu that people can achieve similar workings as the Sharingan as long as there was effort and a moderate level of training. I'm not opposed to the idea anyway.

Eh, that kind of got a little out of hand. Anyway, just tossing that out there. : p

Eh eh... giving away Sharingan like candy? What? No no no no...

I do not think just anyone can use the Sharingan... NOPE.


No, of course you can't just hand out the Sharingan like eye candy that, no. What I'm saying is, with sufficient training, I'm suggesting that, for example, maybe someone could learn to cast genjutsu with eyes, or something like that. I'm not claiming to know the fine details or even the rough draft of what it takes to create new jutsu or whatnot, but I'm just saying that yes, the stat buffs for the Sharingan will be for Uchiha alone, but we could] be a little more open about it, like what Proto did with Senju. The linage is great, sure, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to be using the clan name for their characters. And if that's the case, I'm saying that I'd be willing to tweak a few parts to let others have different ways to train off the Uchiha techniques, perhaps to a lesser extent or less efficiency. Or something similar. I guess there'd be a few people not so happy about that, but we could perhaps consider it if we are changing and modifying the clan stats and techniques, among other things. If that's not possible, then oh well. *shrugs*

Oh right, I derpped...

Okay, well, canonically, it is possible in a way... since Deidara was training one of his eyes to see through Itachi's Genjutsu. So, yeah, I suppose they could it... I suppose.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:47 pm


ProtoXtreme


Un, thank you! But Proto, stop hanging around forums so much D:

Aki at least had the willpower to overcome it, and he's (mostly) normal, last time I saw him at the Konoha Academy. And I thought PTSD was a requirement for Jonin and above? xD

Qyp

Yeah, Deidara for one. We don't have to absolutely give out everything if you don't want to, but things like genjutsu strengthening or training for fire affinity boosts... who knows? There could be lots of possibilities. :3

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:19 pm


Yep.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:23 pm


Qyp
Yep.


Congrats on being the 40000th post on Chatterbox. xD

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:28 pm


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Qyp
Yep.


Congrats on being the 40000th post on Chatterbox. xD

Oh... snap.

40,000... Huh... Epic.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:46 pm


Qyp
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Qyp
Yep.


Congrats on being the 40000th post on Chatterbox. xD

Oh... snap.

40,000... Huh... Epic.
The 40,000th post and it was just one word. "Yep." lol *highfives qyp* i'd honestly be proud lol
and the next one to post will be the 40004th lol palindromes <3

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:50 pm


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Qyp
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Qyp
Yep.


Congrats on being the 40000th post on Chatterbox. xD

Oh... snap.

40,000... Huh... Epic.
The 40,000th post and it was just one word. "Yep." lol *highfives qyp* i'd honestly be proud lol
and the next one to post will be the 40004th lol palindromes <3

That would be me, wouldn't it?
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