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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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 Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:27 pm
Kye carries Satetsu sand encased within her metal spear, strapped to her back. It IS weightless to her, as is any of a jiton user's own sand I believe. However, this tech, as I have read only from the discussion, is not satetsu sand. (I feel at this time I must stress that I have not read the tech itself, and my statements come only from reading the discussion.) As I have read, this armor is chunks of metal, held together upon your body by your jiton power. This is utilizing your magnetic powers to create armor around your body akin to a jutsu in and of itself. Furthermore it is a continuous constant use of the power, on a medium completely different from what is normally used by your bloodline, thus, outside of your specialty.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is this. If your armor is held in place by your magnetic powers, it requires a per post chakra cost.
(Also, Kye's last post was before any edits were made to the bloodline, and now that I look at it, it seems the weightless satetsu rule doesn't seem to exist after all anyways. (By the way, her spear was also a custom weapon with the weightlessness built into it, making it somewhat of an exception.))
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:37 pm
Hinote Tosatsu Kye carries Satetsu sand encased within her metal spear, strapped to her back. It IS weightless to her, as is any of a jiton user's own sand I believe. However, this tech, as I have read only from the discussion, is not satetsu sand. (I feel at this time I must stress that I have not read the tech itself, and my statements come only from reading the discussion.) As I have read, this armor is chunks of metal, held together upon your body by your jiton power. This is utilizing your magnetic powers to create armor around your body akin to a jutsu in and of itself. Furthermore it is a continuous constant use of the power, on a medium completely different from what is normally used by your bloodline, thus, outside of your specialty. Basically, what I'm trying to say is this. If your armor is held in place by your magnetic powers, it requires a per post chakra cost. (Also, Kye's last post was before any edits were made to the bloodline, and now that I look at it, it seems the weightless satetsu rule doesn't seem to exist after all anyways. (By the way, her spear was also a custom weapon with the weightlessness built into it, making it somewhat of an exception.)) The armor is worn like regular armor would be, and the percentage of Iron ( created using his iron sand ) is enough for him to manipulate it much like how Kye did. The armor is actually held on like normal armor, it is just made to not specifically touch Laxus. He is generating an equal repulsion and attraction field at the same time. Iwas unaware that the rule had changed, I thought it would remain weightless if it was being worn, so if you have one who is weaker than others, they wouldn't be weighed down by the 100 pounds of iron they have to lug around. ( Since seals aren't rampant across the world yet. ) If it has to cost something at this level, that would be fine. I'll just make it so that when i integrate the pendant on the armor as actually useful for more than aesthetic feel.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:15 pm
For your BL to make the armor weightless you need a constant chakra drain, Otherwise note how the extra weight affects your speed and such.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:01 pm
I'll edit in weights for it. The armor itself will be quite a bit less weighty, and less strong. Hurrah for making it D rank!
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:03 pm
Rank: Jounin, AS Technology Name: Recon Mask Technology Power Rank: C  Description: The Recon Mask was designed in the village of Kumogakure, where it is considered a secret technology. Due to the importance of this technology only Kumo shinobi are able to purchase one, although this is possible. Made from very strong material, the Recon Mask is completely transparent, with a heads up display. This display can be used to display the mission data or other information, and has a dictating feature to record any new information (Masks are compatible with throat microphones) and send it to any allies wearing a Recon Mask. The display also has a night vision capability to enhance sight in dark places. A display in the upper right keeps track of any other Recon Masks within a 100 yard area to help keep track of the rest of your team. Weakness: Can be broken by C-ranked jutsu and up if hit directly. If stolen can be used against other teammates using mask. Can't hold up against direct hits from any weapons much stronger than basic kunai. Changes: Made it buyable rather than only available from Nagisa and changed it's history since having Nagisa design and build it really doesn't make sense. Removed limitation that only Chuunin and up can use it because it is no longer necessary due to the economy system (and arguably pretty extreme in the first place) Price is set at 200 for the existing version but is negotiable.
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:19 pm
Username: TvIaMsOqTuHeYz RPC Name: Laxus Makarov Rank: D Technology Name: 009 Prototype Technology Power Rank: D Description: This is a metal helm, chest piece, gauntlets, and boots. Each piece is mainly red, although decals are in yellow. A skin tight suit is worn beneath this set, and regulates temperature all over the body preventing sweating and degradation of the armor. The Helm is largely red with two kunai like projections where the ears are located. Where the rings of the kunai would be, are two grates that cover the ears. On the forehead of the helm is a saw blade, that is sharper than any that one would commonly find. There is also a piece of metal with a respirator that covers Laxus's mouth. Leading from the nape of the neck, where the helm ends, is a yellow rubber hose. It leads to the back of the chest piece. The head piece weighs five pounds. The chest piece is in three pieces, one for either shoulder, and one for the majority of the torso. This is primarily red as well, except for the underside of the shoulders. The underside of the shoulders appear more as dark blue- black. There is also a piece of under armor underneath the red chest piece, just before it leaves the larger chest. This allows for the simple storage of several units ( Up to 10 compacted units ) of Satetsu without the sand grinding against your chest. On the back of the chest piece, is a small cloth figure. It has five points, two on either side of a larger one that is long enough to drag the floor. The edges of this cloth are made of iron fiber, and as such are capable of being hardened into a blade. Chest piece weighs 30 pounds. and the shoulders each weigh 10 pounds totaling up to fifty pounds. The Gauntlets are more along the lines of arm protectors. They cover the forearm from damage. These are red as well. inside of the arm protectors is an iron fiber sleeve that is drawn up and attaches to the shoulder pieces. While this won't protect against most attacks, it can defend up to a D rank amount of damage from a weapon, or a fire attack. The hands are covered by a similar fabric, although this is much weaker. The base of the gloves are linked directly into the arm protector, making it impossible to remove once it is placed without removing the arm protector. The arm protectors weigh 5 pounds each, totaling 10 pounds. The Boots are nothing special aside from knee high boots made of metal with a pivot point for the ankle to lean Laxus forward or backward. Unlike the rest of the armor, the boots are Yellow with red trim around the soles, and the ankles. The boots weigh 10 pounds each for a total of 20 pounds. Weakness: Lightning Rod - The metal that the armor is made of is an excellent conductor, and makes it so that lightning jutsu are drawn to the armor within a foot from Laxus. This makes it decisively harder to dodge any raiton techniques. Heated Combat - The metal is a largely conductive metal, making it so that prolonged exposure ( 3 posts around a C rank amount of fire, or being hit with an A rank Katon attack ) Heats the affected piece of armor to scalding proportions. It does however cool down quickly ( 3 posts of being away from the fire. ) Weighty - Without expending 10 points of chakra to gain weightlessness, and then one point per post after the initial ten is used, the armor makes Laxus' effective speed one rank slower in terms of mobility, however countering with upper limbs is unhindered. Picture:  ( Posted with edits )
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:23 pm
This is a Kumo only tech made with the approval and assistance of Hikaro. (In case anyone calls copyright on me for upgrading her idea.) Edit: 8/27/ 6:18 PM: Edited Noise Canceling and Infrared. Technology Name: Recon Mask MK II Technology Power Rank: B Description: Based upon the technology of the Recon Mask, the MK II has many added features and upgrades to take care of various weaknesses in the original design. The MKII includes several features. Full Face Mask. A larger mask creates a much larger screen area for displaying even more data than the original design. Where the original could show descriptions and things of a wide nature, this upgrade allows the mask to display even maps and images, without obscuring the user's vision. All information must be attained legitimately, such as from the mission hall for mission information, or seeing it yourself. The Kumogakure ANBU use a version of this mask which holds information on locations of all active ANBU units, and patrol routes through the village. (As a courtesy all masks come with an included map of Kumogakure.) The face mask also comes with a solid outer shell to protect the fragile screen. This shell is customizable at purchase. The shell is quite strong, able to hold up against impacts of up to C rank power, and even disperses electrical damage up to D rank. (While the screen is guaranteed to be protected, no such guarantee is made for the user's face. Block attacks at your own risk.) Camera. Included camera has snapshot and video recording capability. Images taken can be saved for later perusal or shared with other MKII masks in the area. Noise Canceling. The mask includes noise canceling technology, which, when active, will block any sound you make from being heard beyond the mask. A microphone and speakers are also included, which can be used for dictating commands to the mask (All features except Infrared and Noise Canceling require voice commands to activate.), as well as communicating with other team members in the area, wearing any sort of mask. The radio feature uses the same frequency operation as the throat mic technology. MKII users within fifty feet of one another can communicate directly with a private shortwave frequency. Noise canceling can be activated either by voice command, or using a toggle button on the bottom of the mask. Infrared. Using Infrared imaging technology, the mask allows the user to see clearly in even the darkest of locations. Max distance thirty feet. Automatically activates in dark areas. (Can be manually shut off.) Thermal Imaging. Thermal imaging allows the mask to identify and display heat sources, even from behind a solid wall. Heat sources show in different colors according to temperature level. Blues and greens for the slightest increase from the average temperature of the area, reds and yellows for higher temperatures, and white being the most drastic. Max distance through solid objects is ten feet. Cannot see through multiple solid objects. Max distance without interference, fifty feet. 4X Zoom. The zoom feature, while not very powerful, allows the user to get a closer look at things from far away. (Helpful link.)Battery. The MKII mask comes with a built in rechargeable battery. This battery holds 100 “points” of battery life. When active the mask drains one point every post. Additional features used drain additional power as well, at varying degrees. Camera – One point per use. Video Camera – One point per post. Radio – One point per post. Noise Canceling – Two points per post. Infrared – Three points per post. Thermal Imaging – Four points per post. Zoom – One point per post. The battery can be recharged at terminals within Kumogakure for a fee of five gold for a full charge. (Any charge is counted as a full charge.) Terminals may be found at common locations such as the mission hall, apartments, or at many shops in the shopping district. You may also purchase a charging terminal for your house at a price of 500 gold. This will not lower the charging fee however, as you must still pay for the electricity. The battery may also be charged with pure lightning chakra, for one point per two chakra points. This is highly unstable however, and all features will drain double the power until it is charged properly. Weakness: If stolen, the enemy gains access to any and all information stored within the mask's data. While the mask's durability is high, it does not offer the user any protection. A hit to the mask will still cause blunt damage to the user's face. Electrical damage greater than D rank will disrupt the mask on contact for five posts, shutting it down completely. A rank and above lightning jutsu will do the same from up to five feet away, and ten posts on contact. Looking directly at a fire or lightning technique within ten feet with thermal imaging active will overload the mask's screen causing it to go bright white and show no other data for the next three posts, even if you turn thermal imaging off. Because of the sensitive nature of these masks, both in information stored within, and the technology itself, these may only be purchased by chuunin and above, or with direct permission from the Raikage. Purchasing one to give away is considered a crime, and if lost or stolen, another may not be purchased. (If destroyed however, you are free to buy a replacement.)
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:30 pm
Random note Tim. One unit of iron sand takes up a space of 1x1x1 feet. Eight units are equal to a human body. How are you fitting ten in your chestplate? Units are considered compacted as much as they can go at the 1x1x1 stage.
Edit: As much as they can go without special compaction techniques. But I think Sunaton is the only branch of sand that has those.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:37 pm
Hinote: Because of presonal bias at having an upgraded version of my own tech as a village tech for my village... I will ask someone else to look yours over as well as my revamp above.
Timmy: Going to school will look at yours later.
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:22 pm
A couple more, for me this time. Edit 5:35 PM 8/28: Slight clarification on the mechanism placement. Username: Hinote Tosatsu RPC Name: Shikaku Rank: D Technology Name: Wire Cestus Technology Power Rank: D Description: The wire cestus is made of two parts. One, a cestus. A cestus is a leather glove with steel scales on the back and fingers, mainly used to enhance damage from punching. This cestus is special in that it also has scales on the palm of the hand. Part two is built into the wrist of the cestus. Twin reeling mechanisms capable of holding up to twenty feet of ninja wire or razor wire each. The reels are built in such a way that they wrap around the arm, thus taking up very little space and remaining almost entirely hidden. The reels are spring loaded, so that when a catch is released, they will reel in any wire attached to them. They also have a locking mechanism to stop wire from releasing without reeling it in. In addition, by feeding chakra into the mechanism the user can make the reel pull with more strength. Chakra cost is equal to the ranked cost of a jutsu of the strength rank desired. Note: Even if a high strength is used, if the user does not have equal strength, and the object they are trying to pull would require that strength, the user will be pulled instead. The spring loaded mechanism alone is not powerful enough to reel in anything more than the wire itself. Does not come with wire. Technology Name: Barbed Kunai Technology Power Rank: D Description: A simple kunai, with an extra mechanism hidden inside. When this kunai embeds itself in something it sets off a catch on the blade's surface, which causes two extra blades to punch out of it sideways, aimed backwards towards the handle. This makes it so that when pulled, the kunai will get stuck more instead of pulling out. By releasing the catch the blades will retract and free the kunai.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:21 pm
@ Hinote
Really? O.o Well then Crap! I guess I'll have to make a compacting technique for my Satetsu then, or get some Seals on the palms of the gloves that slide out 1/8th of a unit out at a time and can store 10 units in each one, that way I can throw up to 80 disks. ( Yes, while wearing the suit instead of using standard ninja tools he is going to throw saw blades around. >.> ) I could always have units melted down and then compacted, that way I'd just have to use the destruction jutsu to gain ample amounts.
On another note, and it isn't any of my business really, but I don't think that the Thermal vision should be an option. Their technology doesn't really seem to be that far, and plus that takes away from one of the biggest benefits of being a Hyuuga. Just thought I'd throw my thoughts out there... neutral
@ Hikaro
It's okay, take your time. ^.^
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:31 pm
Just thought I'd point out that you're saying that using a technology that has been around for years, is used by every military and police force in the world, and can be bought legally on the internet or even occasionally at Toys R' Us, seems bad, while simultaneously trying to explain why being able to possess your killer's body, thus negating the fact that they defeated you in battle, is ok. (Also, thermal imaging has been around, at a guess, at least as long as computers. In Naruto, people had computers. This RP is generations after Naruto. I think we might have had time to work out that sort of tech in the most technologically advanced village. Especially considering it's a military village, and a military technology.)
Besides that, comparing thermal imaging to a Hyuuga is like comparing a lightbulb to the sun. Being a Hyuuga means you can tell what somebody had for lunch through a mile of concrete. Thermal imaging, at least in this instance, can barely see through a two inch wooden barrier. No comparison at all.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Wealthy Conversationalist
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:29 pm
Hinote asked me to review these~ biggrin Anywhoozles, -How far can the user see at night when the mask is on? Just a rough estimate. Aside from that, I see nothing wrong with it. And even that is just clarification. I say aproved. -What is the shell made of? Simply curiosity, so I can get a better mental image. Is it the same concept as existing ANBU masks? -"While the screen is guaranteed to be protected, no such guarantee is made for the user's face. Block attacks at your own risk." I like that you added this. -How long can the camera capture video? (Number of posts, please. Not real-time.) -"Noise canceling" as in, no one will be able to hear if the user is speaking, as long as the feature is active? I really like the masks as a whole, especially with all of these features. I say approved.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:07 pm
Tim:
Okay Gregar seemed interested so I didn't look too closely earlier. My concerns aren't too serious on this one, but there are a few areas to cover.
How much sharper than common is the razor? More specifically what could it cut? A piece of paper? cloth? steel?
Does the respirator do anything?
Please deal with the unit issue Hinote mentioned. Iron sand cannot be compacted in the same way of sand jutsu it might be slightly possibly but not to the same level since iron is sturdier than rock.
What does this actually do for your defense? Please note that while armor can block the bulk of the damage it does not stop it completely and knockback remains unchanged (if not made worse by your heavy gear).
What jutsu level can it defend against?
what taijutsu level can it defend against?
I would say prolonged exposure should be dropped to 3 posts of D rank or a B rank attack. This tech is only rated at power level D. Otherwise it needs to be bumped up to level C and the cost will jump as well.
If you become a lightning rod to electricity does that mean that the armor is useless against raiton? I believe it would be acceptable to block up to D rank of the damage but you would probably still get shocked (but the force behind the attack would be lost)
A 5 chakra activation and two point per post would be better for the weight. That way you don't have to drain half your reserve to start it, but it drains faster.
I get to determine the final cost, but what do you think would be a fair cost for this tech?
Overall I think this idea is perfectly passable you just need to attend to some of the details.
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Hinote: You keep whining to me about passing your stuff I might handle it like Gregar does.
Cestus A picture would be nice if you could find one.
I'm picturing it kind of like those wire set ups in Korra but smaller scale (instead of like 1 inch gague wire ninja wire making it so you don't have to have the wire on your back)
So the wire is effectively wrapped around your arm when not in use? (rather than in some sort of reel)
It seems like the spring mechanism would make it hard to actually use the wire. If you were to tie it to a kunai for instance and throw it the mechanism wouldn't release the wire so the kunai would just stop midair. Perhaps some sort of release in the palm to push the wire back out? You would still need to deal with it yourself since I don't think the setup send the wire far you would have to handle it all yourself
You have a large block of metal attached to your hand. You need to discuss weight, katon and raiton jutsu as well as what can break it.
Barbed Kunai I want to say this is custom weapon territory but it is probably enough of a tool to work with.
How powerful is the mechanism? when it pops open what can it push aside? Just flesh? wood? concrete? metal?
What kind of strength does it take to break the prongs? I have to look at the grappling hook side too so... Can it support a person's weight? two? three? Four hundred Ninety seven and three thirds?
Is it the same as normal kunai in piercing power? can it just push through flesh and cloth?
Is it bigger/smaller than a standard kunai?
Both:
What would you say the proper price would be?
Please answer Somnis' questions since they are good ones.
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Somnis: I appreciate the help.
Night vision: without other light sources it would probably be about 10 feet, but with other light such as moonlight (half moon or better) or streetlights that range could be extended up to your normal sight range.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:23 am
Hikaro_rin Hinote: You keep whining to me about passing your stuff I might handle it like Gregar does. Whining?! I am severely offended! I was merely... Desiring. Quote: Cestus A picture would be nice if you could find one. I'm picturing it kind of like those wire set ups in Korra but smaller scale (instead of like 1 inch gague wire ninja wire making it so you don't have to have the wire on your back) Added a picture. I didn't really want to, since it's kind of cliche using stuff from Assassin's creed. But at least in this case it's an existing item outside of the game series. >.> Quote: So the wire is effectively wrapped around your arm when not in use? (rather than in some sort of reel) No. The reel is built in such a way that it wraps around the arm. I'm honestly not entirely sure on the technicalities of how that works, but otherwise it'd have to be in exposed reels, and I wanted to keep it somewhat concealed. It IS constantly in the reel though. (Of course, I can also carry twenty foot sections of spare wire with me to add to it if needed, but that's beside the point.) Quote: It seems like the spring mechanism would make it hard to actually use the wire. If you were to tie it to a kunai for instance and throw it the mechanism wouldn't release the wire so the kunai would just stop midair. Perhaps some sort of release in the palm to push the wire back out? You would still need to deal with it yourself since I don't think the setup send the wire far you would have to handle it all yourself It works in essentially the same way as a fishing reel. When the mechanism isn't engaged, it does nothing. That's why I included the locking part, so it could be stopped from releasing on it's own. The reel only being strong enough to pull in the wire itself by it's own power also suggests that your kunai example would pretty much ignore it. It might slow the kunai's flight, but it wouldn't stop it until it hit the end of the line. Quote: You have a large block of metal attached to your hand. You need to discuss weight, katon and raiton jutsu as well as what can break it. I wouldn't consider it a block of metal. It's thin scales of metal, about as thick as a dime. At most the glove itself weighs a couple pounds. The mechanism included. The wire reels I suspect weigh less than a pound each, since wire isn't all that heavy. Fire would do very little to damage it, though I must also mention it's not exactly a defensive item either. The metal doesn't directly touch the user's flesh, so super heating it wouldn't have much point. As for breaking it, breaking the glove wouldn't really even matter. Anything that could break the mechanism would also have to break the user's arm, so that's a good base for that. Quote: Barbed Kunai I want to say this is custom weapon territory but it is probably enough of a tool to work with. How powerful is the mechanism? when it pops open what can it push aside? Just flesh? wood? concrete? metal? I'd say probably up to wood. It definitely wouldn't work on stone or metal. Likely... Anything you can physically bury the kunai into, the prongs can pierce. Quote: What kind of strength does it take to break the prongs? I have to look at the grappling hook side too so... Can it support a person's weight? two? three? Four hundred Ninety seven and three thirds? It can, since I think base the idea on a grappling hook, and you know that full well. And that's probably a good limit for the poundage too. Actually, the weight limit would probably be about equal to what the object the kunai is attached to can handle rather than the kunai itself. The wall would break before the kunai. Quote: Is it the same as normal kunai in piercing power? can it just push through flesh and cloth? Is it bigger/smaller than a standard kunai? Yes. I considered making it sharper to get more piercing out of it, but it seemed pointless. If I want to do that I can also just sharpen it up in RP too. I had thought of it as about the same size, but if you think it should be, possibly a bit bigger to accommodate for the prongs. ... No, I'd rather keep it normal sized. For various reasons. Quote: Both: What would you say the proper price would be? Please answer Somnis' questions since they are good ones. Cestus: Probably somewhere from one to two hundred. Kunai: About fifty to a hundred. Already answered all her questions in IM.
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