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 Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:29 am
Katya_Stevens pidgezero_three marshmallowcreampie I swear, if I ever became a doctor or a scientist I will personally build an artificial uterus so we can trasfer the fetus from the woman to the artificial uterus. That way, the stupid abortion debate will pretty much end (although there will probably be a huge boom in population and the foster systems will flood up like endless rain into a paper cup (I've been listening to the Beatles again...), but at least I won't have to listen to people argue. My intentions aren't very honorable, are they?) and we won't have to argue about it. Biomedical engineering! Biomedical engineering!!! xp *laughs* That is exactly what my degree's on razz I'm engineering science general right now. Biomed is an option, but I think I'm going to do energy systems. xp
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:54 pm
20 Shades of Crazy ottery Ah, more hate from the lifers: Tala Bloodheart So if I get this, according to you stillborns have no life right? then what the hell am I? i was born still born and brought back to life, does that mean i have no soul, does that mean that if you killed me, you would be killing something that apparently isn't human, and they wouldn't be able to arrest you because according to you, im not human? Who the hell do you think you are to come up with something like that, and who the ******** gives you the right to choose wether something lives or dies. I'm all for pro-life, but i mean if your just going to have abortion cause you happen to get pregnant and didn't want cause you wanted to keep partying or keep getting ******** by the guy you like or serveal guys (in some cases) then they should be shot and killed for their ignorance, but if you a young girl who got pregnant by accident, or someone who got pregnant and realized you couldn't support there are other options beside's abortion, ITS CALLED ADOPTION PEOPLE! or maybe you should just suck it up and deal with having a kid. IF YOU GO AROUND GETTING ******** WITHOUT PROTECTION THEN SUDDENLY YOU GOT PREGNANT, THEN ITS YOUR FAULT AND YOU SHOULD DEAL HAVING TO RAISE THAT CHILD OR AT LEAST GIVE IT UP FOR ADOPTION. (and yes i know what the hell I am talking about because my sister had this problem and had to give her child up for adoption. Killed herself emotionally from doing it, but knew that it would be better for him and her in the logn run, now shes pregnant again and going to keep the child cause she can take of one now that shes a bit older) Pro-lifers like these seem to think that there's nothing around a uterus, that we're just one, huge uterus with legs, as they seem to forget that women have thoughts and feelings and that abortion isn't all about babies. No you aren't. You're just a giant, talking uterus who must pop out babies.
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:14 pm
20 Shades of Crazy PhaedraMcSpiffy Quote: I personally say anyone under the age of 17 who gets knocked up (and they weren't raped, and willingly having sex with an adult is not rape in my opinion) should have to keep the kid. Maybe that would get freakin' 13 and 14 year old girls to stop having sex.There it is![/quote She probably supports abstinence only sex ed, too. rolleyes Oh God, do NOT get me started on that. I had to go through it. Mostly they just showed us pictures of STDs and told us that BC doesn't work 100% of the time (they didn't give us any failure rate percentages. They just said "it doesn't work all of the time", which is pretty vague). Plus, the way they said and worded what they said pretty much implied "If you have sex, even if you use every form of birth control imaginable, you will get AIDS, even if you have sex from a non-infected person, and you'll get pregnant and you'll also get every other STD". What I really hated, though, was that they told us not to have sex before marriage. Um, hello? Being married won't magically protect you from unwanted pregnancies and STDs. What does a legal lisence/marriage ceremony have to do with your chances of getting pregnant/getting an STD? Plus, what if you're gay and can't get married in your state? I had to learn everything about sex from "Seventeen Magazine". I kind of like that magazine. It encourages abstinence, but it still gives accurate information on sex and birth control. Come on, even the editors of a female fashion magazine know that telling teens not to have sex won't stop them from having sex. Now THAT is sad. Also, my school also has a pretty high teen pregnancy rate. It's basically a normal thing, and even the teachers get involved (my Apparel teacher announced my classmate's baby's gender to the whole class). To Katya_Stevens: Then you make the artificial uterus. My science class confuses me.
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:22 pm
More proof that, to pro-life people, life begins at conception, ends at birth and restarts at brain death: Nathan Sheets on Livejournal Don't Want to Die from a Coat Hanger Abortion? Don't Have One! Pro-choicers think that it is somehow a kind of threat when they declare that, should abortion be made illegal, they will all go out and kill themselves by getting coat hanger abortions. I don’t know about any of you, but this actually encourages me to continue to fight for criminalized abortion. The pro-choicers treat the fictional 14 year-old girls who supposedly died pre-Roe as if they are wonderful women who were martyred for a noble cause. Besides being unable to provide even one documented evidence of the—what are we at now?—“hundreds of thousands” of women who died every year from coat hanger abortions, pro-choicers consistently ignore the fact that such women were trying to kill their children. We are expected to act and react to these hypothetical women in the same way we would react should the Pope walk into the room. If they weren’t dead, we would embrace them, thank them for their great service to the world and ask them if they would like to be taken out to lunch. Pro-lifers who dare to call such women baby killers, murderers, delusional, insane, troubled, pressured, weak or anything other than “amazing women” are quickly called—by pro-choicers and some pro-lifers alike—anti-women and insensitive. Even many pro-lifers have fallen for the coat hanger myth, because, really, who didn’t have a great aunt who died from a coat hanger abortion? It's about as bad as the guy on DeviantArt who said that abortion should be illegal even if it means a few women dying.
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:48 pm
PhaedraMcSpiffy More proof that, to pro-life people, life begins at conception, ends at birth and restarts at brain death: Nathan Sheets on Livejournal Don't Want to Die from a Coat Hanger Abortion? Don't Have One! Pro-choicers think that it is somehow a kind of threat when they declare that, should abortion be made illegal, they will all go out and kill themselves by getting coat hanger abortions. I don’t know about any of you, but this actually encourages me to continue to fight for criminalized abortion. The pro-choicers treat the fictional 14 year-old girls who supposedly died pre-Roe as if they are wonderful women who were martyred for a noble cause. Besides being unable to provide even one documented evidence of the—what are we at now?—“hundreds of thousands” of women who died every year from coat hanger abortions, pro-choicers consistently ignore the fact that such women were trying to kill their children. We are expected to act and react to these hypothetical women in the same way we would react should the Pope walk into the room. If they weren’t dead, we would embrace them, thank them for their great service to the world and ask them if they would like to be taken out to lunch. Pro-lifers who dare to call such women baby killers, murderers, delusional, insane, troubled, pressured, weak or anything other than “amazing women” are quickly called—by pro-choicers and some pro-lifers alike—anti-women and insensitive. Even many pro-lifers have fallen for the coat hanger myth, because, really, who didn’t have a great aunt who died from a coat hanger abortion? It's about as bad as the guy on DeviantArt who said that abortion should be illegal even if it means a few women dying. Your first sentence is epic win. There was also something George Carlin said about how pro-lifers will fight for an unborn life, but don't "give a s**t about it" when it's born. Something like "Pre-born, you're okay, preschool, you're ********!". He also said that "Conservatives want live babies to grow up to be dead soldiers". I miss that crazy b*****d. They don't care if a few women die? Pro-life my a**. I've heard that in some countries the abortion rate isn't really much lower because if a woman wants to terminate her fetus, she's not going to care what the government thinks. I guess it's like prohibition... It may lower the rates of the illegal action overall, but it often leads to more crime and violence. If we make abortion illegal, some women may not get the abortion, but most who want to would, and they could hurt themselves in the process. Pro-life my a**... Does anyone else think it makes more sense to save the kids already here? I always see those starving children, and children in war-torn countries on the news, but whether or not we should save them isn't a controversial issue. Instead, people are fighting to save the life of something that can't feel pain, isn't sentient, mooches off a woman's body, and can't even acknowledge it's own existence. But after they manage to save the fetus, they just completely ignore it. Maybe they don't think quality of life is that important, just as long as the person has a life...
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:57 am
Trite~Elegy People spoke up and said slavery was right, that the bible approved of it.
People spoke up and supported segregation laws.
People spoke up against the suffragettes and the women's rights movement.
People speak up to deport illegal immigrants without a moment's notice,
seperating families, and forcing other's in jails/prisons.
Does everyone forget that Hitler spoke out against millions of people just because they practice a certain religion, shared an ancestory, or lived in a certain area.
LOL just invoked godwin's law. silly me
Just because you can open your mouth does not mean you are doing something 'right' or 'heroic'. I quite heartily agree. I understand their viewpoint, but a great many of them are misinformed, and have the wrong concept about what abortion is, at what stage the embryo/fetus can think, feel, etc. If they knew a little bit more about it (instead of the biased b.s. they've been spoon-fed by a lot of other pro-lifers) then the arguments would be less frustrating on both sides. They'll protect an unborn life, one that thinks and feels nothing yet-but they are just as quick (a great many of them, at any rate) to treat an already born, thinking, feeling human being like complete sh**. Which is often shown in their complete disregard for the woman's right to choose, and what said woman isgoing through emotionally and physically. Even sadder still, many of them have not even had sex, much less gone through a pregnancy.
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:31 am
marshmallowcreampie I've heard that in some countries the abortion rate isn't really much lower because if a woman wants to terminate her fetus, she's not going to care what the government thinks. An estimated 22 million abortions occur yearly in coutries where it's legal. An estimated 20 million abortions occur yearly in coutries where it's illegal. On average, the US, Canada, Euro-Asia (with the exceptions of South-East Asia and the Middle-East) and Australasia have legal abortion laws with a rough population of 3,682,373,557. 0.59 abortions per 1,000 population. Central and South America, Africa and South-East Asia have illegal abortion laws with a rough population of 3,024,619,595. 0.66 abortions per 1,000 population. (I say 'on average' as in some places have countries where abortion is largely legal [see: South Africa], but does not make up more than 50% of the total area. Population stats taken from Wikipedia, however I cannot recall where I got the number of legal and illegal abortions from.) We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread razz
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:48 pm
x__iRena_x i think that its only okay if you got raped and i say if you cant take care of the kid then you have two options put it up for adoption or................. GET A ******** JOB YOU WHORE Looks like the hate finally comes through. stressed
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:37 am
marshmallowcreampie PhaedraMcSpiffy More proof that, to pro-life people, life begins at conception, ends at birth and restarts at brain death: Nathan Sheets on Livejournal Don't Want to Die from a Coat Hanger Abortion? Don't Have One! Pro-choicers think that it is somehow a kind of threat when they declare that, should abortion be made illegal, they will all go out and kill themselves by getting coat hanger abortions. I don’t know about any of you, but this actually encourages me to continue to fight for criminalized abortion. The pro-choicers treat the fictional 14 year-old girls who supposedly died pre-Roe as if they are wonderful women who were martyred for a noble cause. Besides being unable to provide even one documented evidence of the—what are we at now?—“hundreds of thousands” of women who died every year from coat hanger abortions, pro-choicers consistently ignore the fact that such women were trying to kill their children. We are expected to act and react to these hypothetical women in the same way we would react should the Pope walk into the room. If they weren’t dead, we would embrace them, thank them for their great service to the world and ask them if they would like to be taken out to lunch. Pro-lifers who dare to call such women baby killers, murderers, delusional, insane, troubled, pressured, weak or anything other than “amazing women” are quickly called—by pro-choicers and some pro-lifers alike—anti-women and insensitive. Even many pro-lifers have fallen for the coat hanger myth, because, really, who didn’t have a great aunt who died from a coat hanger abortion? It's about as bad as the guy on DeviantArt who said that abortion should be illegal even if it means a few women dying. Your first sentence is epic win. There was also something George Carlin said about how pro-lifers will fight for an unborn life, but don't "give a s**t about it" when it's born. Something like "Pre-born, you're okay, preschool, you're ********!". He also said that "Conservatives want live babies to grow up to be dead soldiers". I miss that crazy b*****d. They don't care if a few women die? Pro-life my a**. I've heard that in some countries the abortion rate isn't really much lower because if a woman wants to terminate her fetus, she's not going to care what the government thinks. I guess it's like prohibition... It may lower the rates of the illegal action overall, but it often leads to more crime and violence. If we make abortion illegal, some women may not get the abortion, but most who want to would, and they could hurt themselves in the process. Pro-life my a**... Does anyone else think it makes more sense to save the kids already here? I always see those starving children, and children in war-torn countries on the news, but whether or not we should save them isn't a controversial issue. Instead, people are fighting to save the life of something that can't feel pain, isn't sentient, mooches off a woman's body, and can't even acknowledge it's own existence. But after they manage to save the fetus, they just completely ignore it. Maybe they don't think quality of life is that important, just as long as the person has a life... The "make it legal because they'll do it anyway" doesn't really hold up in an argument if you word it like that; crimes are always done anyway. Although, I do agree with Carling on "pre-born, you're good; pre-school, you're ********!" because I've never once seen a pro-lifer who's said anything about improving the adoption agencies before abortion would become illegal, who would want to fund intercity schools better for the kids that would be pumped in here and need a decent education. I've never once seen a pro-lifer stand up and say the things that we need legal before abortion would become illegal, like universal health care and such. If anything, their lack of care for the current children in the system just shows that they don't honestly care about the quality of anyone's life, but that they only care about to what extent people follow their morals and their wishes; they call us selfish, but really, we're looking out for the quality of life and how well life is held up. How happy and how healthy women are, how equal they are; how well children are taken care of once they're born and that, even if they aren't planned, they are wanted and loved. I'd say that's a hell of lot less selfish than, "but i dnt lyk dat!!!111". Pro-lifers may have good intentions, but they have a horrible way of going about it. They simply want everyone to have a life, but what good is a life when the quality of it is sub-par because of a sudden and unneeded influx of people? The pro-life argument would be so much more understandable if they simply cared about the quality of life as much as they did the use of life as a right.
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:18 am
marshmallowcreampie What I really hated, though, was that they told us not to have sex before marriage. Um, hello? Being married won't magically protect you from unwanted pregnancies and STDs. What does a legal lisence/marriage ceremony have to do with your chances of getting pregnant/getting an STD? Well, you know the godless liberal media will tell you that wedding rings are actually just pieces of metal, but it's a lie!!11!1!!! Jesus invented them and they are magical rings that protect the wearer from STDs, AIDS, and unwanted pregnancy, all of which are caused by the Lord's righteous punishment and not "germs" or "biology". Quote: Plus, what if you're gay and can't get married in your state? OMG don't you know anything?! Gay Sex Produces AIDS!: "The only thing that -- the only thing that gay marriage produce -- well, gay marriage doesn't produce anything that the state has an interest in. Gay sex produces AIDS, which the state doesn't have -- or should have an interest in. They should charge homosexuals more for their -- for their health insurance than they charge the rest of us." 20 Shades of Crazy Does anyone else think it makes more sense to save the kids already here? I always see those starving children, and children in war-torn countries on the news, but whether or not we should save them isn't a controversial issue. Yeah, but those kids are not Chr--they're not whi--they're po--er, um, I mean, that's a different issue because those kids are not Ameri--because they live far away and we can't be bothered to go over there and help them. STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT, SHE-DEVIL! I feel dirty.... Q_Qx__iRena_x i think that its only okay if you got raped and i say if you cant take care of the kid then you have two options put it up for adoption or................. GET A ******** JOB YOU WHORE Whore = Job. Typically. Hey, it's even technically a <********> job!
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:55 pm
In browsing photobucket for some prochoice icons i found these gems  i hope this is a joke  check your facts?  if you look closely it looks like someone is holding up a child who is holding that sign
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:34 am
GAY SEX PRODUCES AIDS?!?!?
Jailbait: I think that is a child holding that sign. That's ******** wrong.
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:23 am
PhaedraMcSpiffy Whore = Job. Typically. Hey, it's even technically a <********> job! Let the record show that this comment made my day xp
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:54 pm
Quote: I am not pro punishment, I am pro LIFE. I am for letting an innocent baby, an innocent life who could grow up and be something amazing, have the chance of living. I really don't see how you can deny that the primary function of sex is to reproduce. It's a physical fact that having sex is the way you get pregnant...it's the way God intended it to be, and you can ask any scientist- what sex is for is to reproduce. That's why we were given sexual organs. I do believe that a woman should be held responsible for her pregnancy, and being responsible does not meaning taking an innocent life. Pregnancy is not PUNISHMENT, it's creating a miracle. There are millions of people out there who want children but cannot have them. Having a baby is nine months out of your life that you can do something selfless for another person. I want to know one person who, when presented with the option of doing a good/nice thing, would turn it down. You're just a very bitter, angry, pro-murder person. And that's not my fault, nor is it my problem. She said it. XD
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:34 am
XD
"TAKE YOUR PRECIOUS ******** MIRACLE, SLUT!"
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