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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:40 am


Lt. Brookman
No, Blood Ravens. From that game that got ruined by the horrible novels. You know the one I'm talking about.
What about your other armies? Your sisters? Your wee guardsmen? mad
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:59 am


Kaori Kapoigne
Lt. Brookman
No, Blood Ravens. From that game that got ruined by the horrible novels. You know the one I'm talking about.
What about your other armies? Your sisters? Your wee guardsmen? mad
Won't someone please think of the Guardsmen! gonk

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jdy204

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:47 pm


they are bunch of sissy boys.... until they mess up in a number....
crying
**has experience of facing 175 guardsmen with flash lights & all special weapons they can have....**
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:38 am


If non-Marine players need more of a reason to bemoan the Marine twinking, here's a hot-off-the-press unverified rumor.

Bell of Lost Souls
First off, Marneus Calgar is described as awesome; the Abaddon of loyalists. Not simply because he's an outstanding fighter but because of the support he provides for his army. He gives all Ultramarines the ability to pass or fail any Leadership test (other reports say morale checks). This is a superior ability to Combat Tactics as that only works in CC and the marines can normally only choose to fail.

Marneus also has a rule called "God of War" which allows him to re-roll virtually anything (shooting to hit rolls, attacks rolls in assualt, to wound rolls). It is basically the psychic power Warp Time, but is always on and works with Marneus' shooting. His storm bolter built into the Gauntlets of Ultramar is AP2. Marneus had 4 base attacks on his statline and is armed with two powerfists. ~you do the math

Calgar possesses Eternal Warrior without any mention of a mantle. Power armour is apparently no longer an option for him, but his "Honour Guard" are still in power armor. Finally, he's wearing his Terminator armour with an additional 4+ invulnerable save.

Elegant Egotism


Caleidah

Eloquent Lunatic

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:52 am


Serebrate
If non-Marine players need more of a reason to bemoan the Marine twinking, here's a hot-off-the-press unverified rumor.

Bell of Lost Souls
First off, Marneus Calgar is described as awesome; the Abaddon of loyalists. Not simply because he's an outstanding fighter but because of the support he provides for his army. He gives all Ultramarines the ability to pass or fail any Leadership test (other reports say morale checks). This is a superior ability to Combat Tactics as that only works in CC and the marines can normally only choose to fail.

Marneus also has a rule called "God of War" which allows him to re-roll virtually anything (shooting to hit rolls, attacks rolls in assualt, to wound rolls). It is basically the psychic power Warp Time, but is always on and works with Marneus' shooting. His storm bolter built into the Gauntlets of Ultramar is AP2. Marneus had 4 base attacks on his statline and is armed with two powerfists. ~you do the math

Calgar possesses Eternal Warrior without any mention of a mantle. Power armour is apparently no longer an option for him, but his "Honour Guard" are still in power armor. Finally, he's wearing his Terminator armour with an additional 4+ invulnerable save.



Well, that settles it. I may have to begin playing a "recently renegade" force and gank out a Calgar clone.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:08 pm


Time of Ultramarines has come! (Ultramarines player... blaugh )

If that's true, I can use him lot more...

jdy204


Elegant Egotism

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:29 pm


I think it's been the time of the Ultramarines since the late nineties. They could have picked one with a live Primarch, at least. Roboute Guilliman is cold lampin' it in a Stasis Pod, and that's just cramping the Ultramarines style.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:18 pm


Serebrate
I think it's been the time of the Ultramarines since the late nineties. They could have picked one with a live Primarch, at least. Roboute Guilliman is cold lampin' it in a Stasis Pod, and that's just cramping the Ultramarines style.


So...the time of the Dark Angels has come?
The only "living" Primarchs are Roboute Guilliman, Jaghaitai Khan, Lion El'Jonson, Corax, and Leman Russ. Guilliman is in stasis, El'Jonson is locked away in the Dark Angels Fortress Monastary, Khan is lost in the webway. Corax and Leman Russ both disappeared into the Eye of Terror.

Caleidah

Eloquent Lunatic


Elegant Egotism

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:32 pm


Caleidah
Serebrate
I think it's been the time of the Ultramarines since the late nineties. They could have picked one with a live Primarch, at least. Roboute Guilliman is cold lampin' it in a Stasis Pod, and that's just cramping the Ultramarines style.


So...the time of the Dark Angels has come?
The only "living" Primarchs are Roboute Guilliman, Jaghaitai Khan, Lion El'Jonson, Corax, and Leman Russ. Guilliman is in stasis, El'Jonson is locked away in the Dark Angels Fortress Monastary, Khan is lost in the webway. Corax and Leman Russ both disappeared into the Eye of Terror.


You forgot about Rogal Dorn (Who's MIA), pre-Dan Abbet Ferrus Manus (Who was MIA until it was stated he was killed, and Vulkan (Who is also MIA). Infact, with the exception of Sanguinius every Primarch could theoretically be alive. Of course, they're all turned into introverted little babies like El'Jonson who is BAWWing inside The Rock. Speak of which, why don't they just use melta-cutters to try and reach him?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:37 pm


Serebrate
Caleidah
Serebrate
I think it's been the time of the Ultramarines since the late nineties. They could have picked one with a live Primarch, at least. Roboute Guilliman is cold lampin' it in a Stasis Pod, and that's just cramping the Ultramarines style.


So...the time of the Dark Angels has come?
The only "living" Primarchs are Roboute Guilliman, Jaghaitai Khan, Lion El'Jonson, Corax, and Leman Russ. Guilliman is in stasis, El'Jonson is locked away in the Dark Angels Fortress Monastary, Khan is lost in the webway. Corax and Leman Russ both disappeared into the Eye of Terror.


You forgot about Rogal Dorn (Who's MIA), pre-Dan Abbet Ferrus Manus (Who was MIA until it was stated he was killed, and Vulkan (Who is also MIA). Infact, with the exception of Sanguinius every Primarch could theoretically be alive. Of course, they're all turned into introverted little babies like El'Jonson who is BAWWing inside The Rock. Speak of which, why don't they just use melta-cutters to try and reach him?


Hm...you have a point. Except:
Dorn is listed as Killed onboard of a Chaos ship. His body is in stasis. I suppose that it could be said that he's alive, but whatevs.

For El'Jonson, I'm not sure. He's listed on Lexicanum as being "asleep," though I'm not up to date with their fluff.

Caleidah

Eloquent Lunatic


Elegant Egotism

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:54 pm


I heard that he was in the Adeptus Custodes, secretly heading it. He only lost his hand in said incident.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:32 pm


Serebrate
I heard that he was in the Adeptus Custodes, secretly heading it. He only lost his hand in said incident.


Source?

Caleidah

Eloquent Lunatic


Elegant Egotism

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:29 pm


Rumors, usually on pages with information about him there's a hinting he's not really dead.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:46 pm


Serebrate
Rumors, usually on pages with information about him there's a hinting he's not really dead.


Ah. Well, I'm not going to take his position with the Custodes seriously unless I see a more definite source.

-=Something to Ponder=-
If/When the Void Dragon wakes up, the Space Marines are going to become giant puppets.

Caleidah

Eloquent Lunatic


Elegant Egotism

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:55 pm


Caleidah
Serebrate
Rumors, usually on pages with information about him there's a hinting he's not really dead.


Ah. Well, I'm not going to take his position with the Custodes seriously unless I see a more definite source.

-=Something to Ponder=-
If/When the Void Dragon wakes up, the Space Marines are going to become giant puppets.


It depends if you're talking about their implants or just the armor. The Space Marines armor only has a power generator and some low-grade systems so I'm not sure it would classify as being puppeted. Stuff like a Eldar Warp Spider or Tau Crisis Suits seem to be more likely candidates. Hell, the Dreadnought burns some sort of fuel to move, and though the users body is hooked up to the thing, the rest of the systems are still pretty low tech for the 41st millennium.
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