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 Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:39 pm
Yeah. I have that book laying around somewhere. It shows you how to build a D&D god, including things like powers, feats, spells, domains etc etc etc. All the varying power levels of gods too, which makes it an interesting sourcebook.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:41 pm
I could point out how there are only 7 stories in the world and every single piece of writing and cinema we have made is simply a reincarnation of one of them. But really... I'd be wasting my time. So suffice it to say, I'm going back to Pokemon.
Toodle pip.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:41 pm
The Darth Vizzle Marc Antony probably had more to do with the public getting pissed than the deification. With the whole "reading Julius's will aloud when it was in HUGE favor of the people" and "showing the crowd his bloodied and rent toga." Then again, I think they were already rioting prior to that, but it just intensified as time went on. Of course, as for Augustus, he did have to fight; Marc Antony was off in Egypt, which was a huge source of grain in the ancient world, and wasn't very friendly to Augustus anymore. Of course, that's nowhere near the same as the full-fledged civil war that Julius went through, but it's not fair to say that Augustus secured his seat of power without ever having to fight anyone. Augustus sent an entire army over to Egypt and kicked Marc Antony's a**, got with Cleopatra, and then personally executed the son that Cleopatra and Julius had because "There can only be one Caesar." I don't think he was ever on the battlefield personally killing bitches, though, because he was physically infirm his whole life and he wouldn't stand a chance against any well-conditioned footsoldier. I think that he killed Marc Antony, too, because I remember that happening after the New Triumvirate. but goddamn its been a while since i thought of this s**t.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:43 pm
I'm not a huge fan of D&D when they get to the stronger levels/creatures. The Deities and Demigods handbook and Epic level handbooks end up just reminding me that all this stuff is written by people with as little imagination as me.
The low lever stuff, fluff and mechanics, are clever and great though.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:43 pm
Elliterate
I could point out how there are only 7 stories in the world and every single piece of writing and cinema we have made is simply a reincarnation of one of them. But really... I'd be wasting my time. So suffice it to say, I'm going back to Pokemon.
Toodle pip.You COULD point that out, but then it'd be an intense philosophical debate and someone here is probably a 1st year philosophy student.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:45 pm
Actually I'm a graduate. Literature/Philosophy double major.
Seriously though. Pokemon now.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:47 pm
It's really hard to justify doing... anything at those levels. It basically comes down to having the gods fight one another in direct battles or political battles, while managing their believers and the problems of the material world.
Or basically trying to play Starcraft against someone and punch them in the face at the same time.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:47 pm
Oh, yeah, he didn't PERSONALLY fight except in his younger years where he served in the military, he might have had a few chances to swing a sword around then.
But I mean "he" fought, in that he lead these campaigns as a general, or they were lead in his name. He didn't get his power without going through a war or two first, even if he never actually hopped on the front line and swung a sword. I didn't mean fight in the literal sense, so much as in that he didn't get his power peacefully or without incident.
And yeah, he did go whoop the tar out of Antony. Pretty one-sided civil war if there ever was one. But Antony did manage to get support from the Middle Eastern provinces and some client kingdoms, and he supposedly planned on divvying up the entire area to his sons so they could rule as kings, while trumpeting Caesarion as "the true heir of Julius Caesar."
EDIT:: I would say that Augustus's biggest triumph as a schemer wasn't whether or not he ever had to fight - but that he maintained the image of the Roman Republic still having power even though he ruled it as an emperor. That takes some serious charisma, elan, and personal ability as a politician and administrator besides.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:49 pm
That's why I dig Faerun. Aside from the creator's wonky DM-PCs, most of the notable characters in that setting are not much higher than level 10.
Middlish power realism. My sort of game.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:50 pm
MORE TRASH FOR THE TRASH GOD.
MOANDER WILL CONSUME YOUUuU--saahahhhh the moss is in my braaai-HAHAHAHA!
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:55 pm
The Darth Vizzle Oh, yeah, he didn't PERSONALLY fight except in his younger years where he served in the military, he might have had a few chances to swing a sword around then. But I mean "he" fought, in that he lead these campaigns as a general, or they were lead in his name. He didn't get his power without going through a war or two first, even if he never actually hopped on the front line and swung a sword. I didn't mean fight in the literal sense, so much as in that he didn't get his power peacefully or without incident. And yeah, he did go whoop the tar out of Antony. Pretty one-sided civil war if there ever was one. But Antony did manage to get support from the Middle Eastern provinces and some client kingdoms, and he supposedly planned on divvying up the entire area to his sons so they could rule as kings, while trumpeting Caesarion as "the true heir of Julius Caesar." EDIT:: I would say that Augustus's biggest triumph as a schemer wasn't whether or not he ever had to fight - but that he maintained the image of the Roman Republic still having power even though he ruled it as an emperor. That takes some serious charisma, elan, and personal ability as a politician and administrator besides. Well it was a given that any general would ride into battle with his army. There were no desk officers in the Roman army. And yep. True that. Most badass display of that was when Cornelius Gallus, governor of Egypt, started talking about how much of a badass he was after he defeated an Egyptian tribe. Augustus got pissed about this, but instead of ordering him executed - which would've actually been within his powers that the Senate had given him - he just remarked in casual conversation to a couple of Senators that he "Cornelius Gallus is no friend of mine" and within days, the Senate had passed laws calling for his prosecution, his friends in the nobility abandoned him, and he threw himself on his sword in shame. So ******** badass. XD
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:00 pm
The Vansin I'm not a huge fan of D&D when they get to the stronger levels/creatures. The Deities and Demigods handbook and Epic level handbooks end up just reminding me that all this stuff is written by people with as little imagination as me. The low lever stuff, fluff and mechanics, are clever and great though. Do you have an example to demonstrate this cleverness that you speak of?
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:05 pm
I wanna fight someone with a redcap.
Dunno why.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:05 pm
The Vansin I'm not a huge fan of D&D when they get to the stronger levels/creatures. The Deities and Demigods handbook and Epic level handbooks end up just reminding me that all this stuff is written by people with as little imagination as me. The low lever stuff, fluff and mechanics, are clever and great though. Spells & Magic from second edition, and the original D&D immortal rules - enemies resembled stuff from Neon Genesis Evangelion and character abilities got really esoteric...
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:06 pm
I'd refer you to the players guide. Once you really get a handle on the mechanics of the game, you find that the numbers tend to equate to what you're trying to do in the game. It's rare for you to try to do something and have the mechanics of the game really impede you.
in short, it's a reasonably simple system that effectively emulates magical medieval life.
Niore- When I talk D&D, I almost universally talk 3.0-3.5. I've never actually played 2E.
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