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Mara-ani

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:21 am


Hey all, I know it's belated, but HAPPY NEW YEAR to you all. Good luck with your N Y resolutions, may they stick! Congrats to everyone who needs congratulating - esp where there are babies involved - and grrrrrr to ridiculous obsessing over being politically correct... I think that about covers it.... I need to sleep now. whee heart zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:41 am


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It's like that parent who wanted to sue Rockstar.

She bought her kid Grand theft Auto. He was 14. It HAD a rating of M which means 17+.

Then when the "hot coffee" programming was discovered the ERSB gave it an AO rating which is 18+.

Lady had no problem buying her 14 year old a game rated 17+ but when it's rating was changed to 18+ she suddenly thinks she has grounds to SUE?


Yeah... it's sad to see what some parents make excuses for, when often it's just a case of lacking/permissive parenting. neutral Your example included.

My brother was playing M rated video games before he was 14 or 15. Yet his excuse what something like "Yeah well I've played them before, so it's ok", and whenever I was allowed to do something, my brother said he should be allowed to do it too. My mom (well, both parents) gave up discipline many years ago, but I bet they'd be surprised if they knew some of the stuff my brother and I have been up to over the years.

Making yourself a part of your child's life makes all the difference.

Nikolita


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:33 pm


Ah...my parents sort of failed in that department.

There were some games that were teen and above when I was younger. For the most part it was Doom and other games like that. My dad played with me though. So, he knew what we were doing. That and we were raised with enough sense to not do the things we saw the characters in the games do. confused
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:37 pm


My parents went to far the other direction. The only video game we ever owned was pong gonk . We weren't really allowed to watch tv either when we were little, but I actually think that was a good idea. Ofcourse now my brothers and sister watch TV like crazy. Hee Hee xd

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:39 am


I wasn't allowed to watch a lot of tv. I however was not allowed to watch Mtv and some other channels, but I can't remember what they were anymore.

I never was allowed to watch rated R movies. Especially the gorey ones and I still don't like to watch movies like that.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:35 am


Yeah, my husband says that he grew up always watching TV and playing video games and he wishes in hindsight, it hadn't been like that. He did go outside and play with friends too, but he said he was just too much on the TV and he said his little brother was the same way. We didn't watch much TV growing up - we watched cartoons and whatnot, but my sister and I were always playing games, making up our own, reading, etc. My Dad had built us computers (from the old computer kits originally and then regular ones), so we had computer games, but we really weren't on them much. But I agree, I think that it's the parents' job to teach the kids about right and wrong and about what they see on TV and stuff.

I wasn't allowed to watch Rated R movies either. I remember the first one I ever saw - Navy Seals - I went with a friend and I was like 12 or something. I felt so guilty sitting in the theatre because I knew my parents didn't know! lol.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:47 am


My parents were very picky about TV. Well, mainly because they didn't want to pay for cable. I did like watching History channel shows with my mom. They weren't picky about movies or content, just didn't like having the TV on.

I'm very particular because of it that when we sit down for dinner that it's off cause my husband and son get all quiet, lol. I didn't really mind how I grew up, but I know I always had an understanding to not do something stupid because of TV or a game.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:38 am


Yeah, my mom had a really big thing about us not watching tv while we're eating dinner. She wanted us to spend dinner as a family and having the tv on caused us to not talk to eachother.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:51 am


Yeah and I've been so bad about that since getting married. We always eat in the living room. But now that we have the baby, as she gets older and is starting to eat with us, we're going to be returning to the table.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:24 am


My parents always had this thing about everyone having to sit together at dinner time, but nowadays no one is at home together at the same time, so its usually just jeff and I who eat with my mum.
Its sad really....but we all have to eat together on a sunday still, thats a big rule.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:54 pm


I think that happens alot as you grow up Jools. It's sad to see those times end. I find my family eating dinner in my moms room alot lately. She can't always make it out to the table and Sascha wants eat with her grandparents all the time now. It's kind of messy, but nice to all be together. I think it's so neat to watch new family traditions evolve, as you move from your parents family to your own family.
Sometimes it's hard because Alex and I grew up very differant, so we have to find the middle ground. His family is all about tv for example,(when we visit its always on), and I prefere to have it off (unless there is something I want to see). Plenty of times I have to drag him away from it come dinner time or what have you. Thats marriage though, me dragging him around... no wait I mean comprimise sweatdrop rofl
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:36 pm


Ok, and on that thing Nikolita was talkign about.. how her little brother felt entitled because she was allowed something. Now, I will just say upfront.. I only have one child.. It can be said I don't understand because I don't know what it's like to manage multiple children in teh house. However, I would like to say I am the oldest of four children. Ok well. forgive me if this seems long, and rather opinionated... but, I see it a lot at work, and I had a friend with 4 kids.. the 2 middle ones both boys. They are only a year or two apart. Everything the older ones does.. the younger wants to do. The mom does nothign about it. She smacks the older one and tells him to let the younger brother do whatever he wants. I see this a lot at work when it's one kids birthday.. they had giftcards given to them at their party.. so they shop.. and the parent feels they HAVE to get the other child something JUST BECAUSE the child whose birthday stuff it is getting stuff.....

I think it is really important for parents to teach their children, starting with their siblings as those are the best lessons they have, just because someone else gets something... doesn't make them entitled to anything. In fact, children who are always given into with these situations, they tend to develop a rather entitled disposition they disrespect everyone else with. They feel everyone should have to cater to them, and the people who they are encrouching on.. they have no respect. I mean.. there are three years between me and the next sibling.. and I shared a room with my sister who is six years younger than me for years.

One thing I think our parents did really right with us is that we were each always given days that were our own. My mom would make "date nights" with each of us. One night a month, each of us would go out with her. We'd get to pick what we did, and none of the others were allowed to go or complain as they woudl get their turn another time. Also, we were all always had our own toys. I'm not saying sharing isn't important. It has its placed, but it really isnt' about sharing anymore after a while. Because the child practicing disrespectful behavior like that isn't doing any sharing.. Only the one child ends up doing it. One child ends up always have to give slack and stuff... while the other one just keeps taking and taking.

Ok. Sorry for the rant.. but it just really bothers me... I have been at my friends house for parties and stuff. When I see it go on, I see the son who always gets walked all over. It really is giving him issues, and come when they are older, there is going to get pretty nasty. Because when they grow up, it will still happen. Instead of the parents making him give anything, the brother taking will just insinuate himself into anything he wants.. and it will go from toys to maybe girls or other areas of their life. [end rant.. and I apologize if my views sound misguided.]

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:18 am


Presents for the child who's birthday it isn't kinda bug me too Grace.

I mean what is wrong with teaching your children that everyone gets a special day?

I don't expect gifts on every day that's not my birthday...


*busts into rounds of "Merry Merry Unbirthday to You!"* - Lissa got Alice in Wonderland for Christmas. rofl
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:34 pm


I dunno...when my brother and I were really young. We shared birthday, but I think that was only for a few years. It was also to deal with the fact that since my little brother was so sick when he was little that he got A LOT more attention than I did. So I was a very jealous/mean sister for a while.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:45 pm


Yeah no...

Celebrating both birthdays at the same time is one thing.

But giving another child a present. Because you don't want them to "feel left out" when it is the Celebration of the OTHER child's birthday. That's what I don't get.
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