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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:29 pm
gonk I've complained about that 5x hotter than the sun on more than 1 occassion. neutral That was indeed overly excessive, so why follow in their footsteps? Those characters need a powering down.
As for space ships from thin air... clarify? Who posted about that? I'll probavly remember if you can recall who said it. 3nodding The spell that "was" on the Dojo was a thing of convenience as I recall. All that was before my time and done by the chacter(s) that need a power down. 3nodding As it stands that spell no longer exists as it was removed, as proof the Dojo is still destroyed and will have to be rebuilt by hand, not magics. 3nodding
I understand about the "scuffle", and yes he should probably have PMed you privately about it, but his first reaction was to post here where you were likely to see it..... and you did. sweatdrop Anything more I agree should be privately PMed 3nodding
As for not being able to explain every power, I think it was more or less the thing about the Sun being carbon based that killed him. sweatdrop Right?
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:31 pm
Nana_Wing gonk I've complained about that 5x hotter than the sun on more than 1 occassion. neutral That was indeed overly excessive, so why follow in their footsteps? Those characters need a powering down. As for space ships from thin air... clarify? Who posted about that? I'll probavly remember if you can recall who said it. 3nodding The spell that "was" on the Dojo was a thing of convenience as I recall. All that was before my time and done by the chacter(s) that need a power down. 3nodding As it stands that spell no longer exists as it was removed, as proof the Dojo is still destroyed and will have to be rebuilt by hand, not magics. 3nodding I understand about the "scuffle", and yes he should probably have PMed you privately about it, but his first reaction was to post here where you were likely to see it..... and you did. sweatdrop Anything more I agree should be privately PMed 3nodding As for not being able to explain every power, I think it was more or less the thing about the Sun being carbon based that killed him. sweatdrop Right? I've found what I think is a flaw in several things from telekinesis downward.
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:32 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:44 pm
-_-; Can we PLEASE get past the 5x hotter than the sun issue? It happened once. It's over. I've been hearing complaints about it for so long that I'm growing tired of it.
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:48 pm
xp Then how about the more recent one where the world could have been destroyed because the very earth was going to start going molten and shakey and gunk?
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:49 pm
*twitch* Heh, tried to stay out of this one but my two cents have to be put in after reading it Jim.
I once had a character similar to yours to the extend that he was immortal and had mastery over the element of fire. That character was kebached HARD simply because of those two facts, but especially because of the fire mastery.
The wording you use is what's going to piss people off, if you can, concievably, control an element to that point then you can simply control the effects of other characters attacks.
I know from long long LOOOOONG experience that nothing is more freaking irritating than have people use the excuse that they have complete mastery over an element to ******** with every else's attacks.
EDIT: Imagine if it happened to you.
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:51 pm
Nana_Wing xp Then how about the more recent one where the world could have been destroyed because the very earth was going to start going molten and shakey and gunk? Fine, just as long as we don't go on about it for weeks.
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:38 pm
Waitatic, I thought KB was out of commission temporarily? How do the mansion peeps know its his army?
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:44 pm
Cole Eastcott *twitch* Heh, tried to stay out of this one but my two cents have to be put in after reading it Jim. I once had a character similar to yours to the extend that he was immortal and had mastery over the element of fire. That character was kebached HARD simply because of those two facts, but especially because of the fire mastery. The wording you use is what's going to piss people off, if you can, concievably, control an element to that point then you can simply control the effects of other characters attacks. I know from long long LOOOOONG experience that nothing is more freaking irritating than have people use the excuse that they have complete mastery over an element to ******** with every else's attacks. EDIT: Imagine if it happened to you. That's more or less the reason I objected to TJ about it. I;m one of those who brought it to his attention. If you recall, for a while now, I've been speaking of what I see as excessive power on the part of several characters. The complete mastery of all elements, which was how I read that part of his bio, is just too much for me. Add to that massive cosmic powers, healing, immortality, shapeshifting, spirit medium abilities, and the rest and it seemed to me to be a pretty clear example of god moding waiting to happen. I have never RPed with you, Jim, so I don't know how much restraint you show with character powers, but that much is pushing it, especially for a protagonist. If you want, I can go into the exact parts that caught my ire.
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:20 am
If you folks'll pardon me. I'll delete the character already. I didn't mean to start a confrontation with all ya'll.
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:26 pm
[ Message temporarily off-line ]
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:53 pm
Beggin your pardon, Miss Yotsuba, but I'm well aware of the fact no one told me to delete Tentra, and I'm not flying off on a tizzy, as you put it, by simply deletein him. And he is quite beatable, very much so actually. All ya'll folks jumping around at super-inhuman speed, no problem what so ever at drawin the ol' wizard into melee combat where's he's basicly a dead man.
Mastema's big thing, I'm assumin, would be my technical know-how of my attacks. Mastema, I could say that all my magical powers come from a steer back in Texas that was imbued with super powers through alien probbing, and you'll have ta accept that. I could say that the sun is made of cheese and it gives me mystical cheese powers, and you'll have ta accept it. Simply because this site, this game, is all about perception. You think magic works one way, someone thinks magic works the other.
Krono, I wasn't around when that fella did the whole five times hotter than the sun. Like I said I was reading back the last couple hundred pages of OOC and some of the IC threads, not all mind you 'cause that'll take too damn long. And it made mention of folks pumpin out fire five times hotter than the sun, a barrier that absorbs all the force thrown against it, and the like of that.
Cole, partner, even an idiot with the sheer basics of an elemental ability can screw an attack to holy hell by disabling/distorting the element inside of the attack. As I said before, it's all about perception. I could use an attack that sprouts fire from my finger tips and if someone tries to use their fire abilities to stop it I could claim that it's not fire, but rather arcane energy in the form of fire. It's all perception, friend.
Zelyhon, I don't know you really so I can't claim to know what yer talking about when you said you've been keepin an eye out for excessive powers. *shrug* You read my bio, didn't ya? Cosmic powers, 4 attacks, mysticism, 3 attacks. Keep right on down the line and each ability I listed gives me two, maybe three at tops, new attacks. The black/white holes, alright, yeah, I'll accept they're a bit too over powerful and I'd already figured someone would have gone and made a bit of trouble for me when I put them in.
As I said in the past, partner, it's all perception. My idea of mastery could be, and probably is, completely different from yours. People say they can control fire, great, grand for them. I control elements and aspects of the element, atleast that's what I was shootin for. Air? Ok, control air and gasses. Liquid? Water, cola, what ever, if it's fluid it's manipulated. That's really not all that hard to do. I could say Tentra is a mentally slow child who got kicked in the head by a horse when he was a youngin, but if he's got even the basics of elemental control he can weave and destroy like no one's business. The strength varies, of course, but the over all gyst of it is the same.
Now folks, I've already done and put a stop to it, so can we just let it die and rest now? I'd rather not be starting a fued with any of you.
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:27 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:31 pm
Jim Hensley Zelyhon, I don't know you really so I can't claim to know what yer talking about when you said you've been keepin an eye out for excessive powers. *shrug* You read my bio, didn't ya? Cosmic powers, 4 attacks, mysticism, 3 attacks. Keep right on down the line and each ability I listed gives me two, maybe three at tops, new attacks. The black/white holes, alright, yeah, I'll accept they're a bit too over powerful and I'd already figured someone would have gone and made a bit of trouble for me when I put them in.
As I said in the past, partner, it's all perception. My idea of mastery could be, and probably is, completely different from yours. People say they can control fire, great, grand for them. I control elements and aspects of the element, atleast that's what I was shootin for. Air? Ok, control air and gasses. Liquid? Water, cola, what ever, if it's fluid it's manipulated. That's really not all that hard to do. I could say Tentra is a mentally slow child who got kicked in the head by a horse when he was a youngin, but if he's got even the basics of elemental control he can weave and destroy like no one's business. The strength varies, of course, but the over all gyst of it is the same. Some level of control is fine and all, but the implication I got was utter control over everything related to those elements without any counterbalance to it. Elemental control is the backbone of a lot of wizards and fighters, but when it's implied the level of control I saw in the post, they're usually limited to one or two. You had water, ice, wind (which you also included restructuring gases into other gasses, so that's another issue there), vacuum, fire, lava, metal (when melted, which with fire control, is no problem), and earth. I've played elemental masters before and usually to keep them balanced, you either have strong single, possibly dual related elements or weaker and slower control of multiple ones. Specialization vs. Jack-of-all-trades, if you will. You want that level of control over one element? Sure, no problem. I have no issue either with you balancing slightly more powerful elements with the lack of melee either. I mean, that's basically the wizard class in DnD, right? However, such excessively high control and add to that summonings, shapeshifting (which would allow melee, by the way), cosmic magic, and immortality and there's a problem.
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:47 pm
Hey... don't you think we ought to just let it go? Afterall we've chosen to allow just about anything in the past. So long as we can make it somewhat stomachable to half of us it will suffice. My vote is we chop off his arms and allow him to keep flinging the damn fireballs...
Or just chop off his arms.
(By the way obsurd longevity of characters is so commonplace by now reguardless of the rest of your legitimate complaints maybe that one isn't so important.)
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