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strawberryswing71

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:48 am


for whoever said that "everything is choice", i highly disagree.
can you go and decide to get diabetes? no,
can you decide to enjoy the taste of a certain food? no,
can you decide to be gay, bi, or straight? no.
certain situations in your life can manipulate all of these situations, but no, you dont have a direct choice.
i consider myself to be a smart honest person, and i know that i have an attraction to guys and girls. did i wake up one day and decide to make my life complicated? no. i came to a realization.
if what youre trying to say is that people can keep it secrtet and not come out, then that my friend is just asking a person to drive themselves crazy.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:47 pm


It really disturbs me... some people's reactions to this topic. I am religious, and yet I go against it by being insanely pro-homosexuality. Whenever i bring it up to my friend, she turns it into a political conversation, asking whether marrying a dog because you're IN LOVE is a sin. I naver know how to respond... So I opt for a blank stare. BEING IN LOVE AND MARRYING WHOMEVER YOU LOVE WHETHER THEY'RE YOUR GENDER OR NOT IS PERFECTLY OKAY. saying otherwise in not only wrong, so i say, but inhumane as well.  

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:36 pm


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my thoughts on the subject of homosexuality. I do not condone, nor condemn homsexuals, but I do not agree with their actions either.


Well they can't have sex within marriage because they can't get married. By not allowing them to get married you are forcing them to sin therefore forcing them away from God. (This only applies if you feel sex outside of marriage is a sin.)


Thank god almighty someone is thinking clearly. I have been wondering this for years, and to add to it the church and sate aspect. The government and religion are to remain separate. So a government marriage should be allowed, because the only bloody reason it's not is due to the church and their bloody morals.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:32 pm


Sunny_Hill_Asylum
It really disturbs me... some people's reactions to this topic. I am religious, and yet I go against it by being insanely pro-homosexuality. Whenever i bring it up to my friend, she turns it into a political conversation, asking whether marrying a dog because you're IN LOVE is a sin. I naver know how to respond... So I opt for a blank stare. BEING IN LOVE AND MARRYING WHOMEVER YOU LOVE WHETHER THEY'RE YOUR GENDER OR NOT IS PERFECTLY OKAY. saying otherwise in not only wrong, so i say, but inhumane as well.


Playing the devils advocate here but I thought that gender didn't matter, just the physical sex of the person.

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redwolfshadow

PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:13 pm


Love isnt about being able to have kids with your partner- and just because you cant get pregnant from your partner doesnt mean you're "lustful" and therefore sinful. If that was true, technically a sterile man with a woman would be a sin, because they were lustful, unable to have kids. Also, i believe in the law of universal return (diferent "sin" system): good energy given out will be returned 3X, same for bad. Consensual sex and love and giving birth are all forms of good energy, but they arent at all linked. Love is a good thing, regardless if it involves giving birth in the future. Sex is good energy, regardless if it involves having kids.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:40 pm


((I'm going to get my a** kicked by the gays))
Homosexuality is the one thing in the world that I cannot find a good reason for. The main reason is sex.
Why would a guy want a d**k rammed up his a**?
I do not understand.
And women having sex with women doesn't make sense.
The only way I can think of possible is.... odd.

Otherwise, I'm fine.
I just don't want to walk down the street and see 2 guys/girls making out in their car...

I'm sorry if I offended you. These are just my beliefs on the subject.

Some people have thought my girlfriend was lesbian, and I was gay...
I think that is odd...


I have a question for the homosexuals....
Do you think (if your gay) girls are not... well... attractive?
And do you think (If your a lesbian) that guys aren't attractive?

Falsequivalence


Artto

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:52 am


XxBroken_And_ShatteredxX
((I'm going to get my a** kicked by the gays))
Homosexuality is the one thing in the world that I cannot find a good reason for. The main reason is sex.
Why would a guy want a d**k rammed up his a**?
I do not understand.
And women having sex with women doesn't make sense.
The only way I can think of possible is.... odd.

Otherwise, I'm fine.
I just don't want to walk down the street and see 2 guys/girls making out in their car...

I'm sorry if I offended you. These are just my beliefs on the subject.

Some people have thought my girlfriend was lesbian, and I was gay...
I think that is odd...


I have a question for the homosexuals....
Do you think (if your gay) girls are not... well... attractive?
And do you think (If your a lesbian) that guys aren't attractive?


So, the only type of sex you are ok with is p***s in v****a? biggrin
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:05 am


@XxBroken_And_ShatteredxX

I'm not sexually attracted to guys but I'm comfortable enough to acknowledge that another guy is attractive. The answer you get is probably going to differ depending on if one can distinguish between attraction and sexual attraction. The two are not necessarily one in the same.

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Falsequivalence

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:10 am


Artto
XxBroken_And_ShatteredxX
((I'm going to get my a** kicked by the gays))
Homosexuality is the one thing in the world that I cannot find a good reason for. The main reason is sex.
Why would a guy want a d**k rammed up his a**?
I do not understand.
And women having sex with women doesn't make sense.
The only way I can think of possible is.... odd.

Otherwise, I'm fine.
I just don't want to walk down the street and see 2 guys/girls making out in their car...

I'm sorry if I offended you. These are just my beliefs on the subject.

Some people have thought my girlfriend was lesbian, and I was gay...
I think that is odd...


I have a question for the homosexuals....
Do you think (if your gay) girls are not... well... attractive?
And do you think (If your a lesbian) that guys aren't attractive?


So, the only type of sex you are ok with is p***s in v****a? biggrin

Yes. The rest is just... odd.

@rmcdra...
So it is how I might think a guy looks good, but not be attracted to him.
Okay.
Thank you for not getting angry at me.
And would you think it is gross if you saw a guy and a girl making out? (Last question, I think.)
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:12 am


XxBroken_And_ShatteredxX
((I'm going to get my a** kicked by the gays))
Homosexuality is the one thing in the world that I cannot find a good reason for. The main reason is sex.
Why would a guy want a d**k rammed up his a**?
I do not understand.
And women having sex with women doesn't make sense.
The only way I can think of possible is.... odd.

Otherwise, I'm fine.
I just don't want to walk down the street and see 2 guys/girls making out in their car...

I'm sorry if I offended you. These are just my beliefs on the subject.

Some people have thought my girlfriend was lesbian, and I was gay...
I think that is odd...


I have a question for the homosexuals....
Do you think (if your gay) girls are not... well... attractive?
And do you think (If your a lesbian) that guys aren't attractive?


Being gay isn't about sex.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:28 am


XxBroken_And_ShatteredxX
((I'm going to get my a** kicked by the gays))

And the straights.

XxBroken_And_ShatteredxX
Homosexuality is the one thing in the world that I cannot find a good reason for. The main reason is sex.

In Medias Res IV
Being gay isn't about sex.



XxBroken_And_ShatteredxX
Why would a guy want a d**k rammed up his a**?
I do not understand.

Why does a strianght girl want a d**k rammed up her v****a? Sexual stimulation and pleasure.


XxBroken_And_ShatteredxX
And women having sex with women doesn't make sense.
The only way I can think of possible is.... odd.

What doesn't make sense? Two lovers engage in sex. There is no p***s involved, but there can still be sex.


XxBroken_And_ShatteredxX
Otherwise, I'm fine.
I just don't want to walk down the street and see 2 guys/girls making out in their car...

Yeah, PDA bothers non-homophobic straight people, too.


XxBroken_And_ShatteredxX
I have a question for the homosexuals....
Do you think (if your gay) girls are not... well... attractive?
And do you think (If your a lesbian) that guys aren't attractive?

Not gay, so....
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:40 am


XxBroken_And_ShatteredxX

@rmcdra...
So it is how I might think a guy looks good, but not be attracted to him.
Okay.
Thank you for not getting angry at me.
And would you think it is gross if you saw a guy and a girl making out? (Last question, I think.)

NP. I know I can be aggressive at times in my debates but it's nothing personal. I tend to come off meaner than I actually am sometimes.

As to your possible last question, it depends on the context, situation, and the people involved if it would gross me out.

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Vadasz Ravenari

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:41 am


There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, i just think that it's kind of counter-productive but in this case it's not such a bad thing. Gays don't breed and the world has more than enough humans in it as far as I'm concerned. If I do have any porblem it would be the one's that can't make up their own minds. Like the woman that decides after having a kid that she's a lesbian. That information would have been useful for the father of their child before they had a kid together, you know? I think it's wrong to tell someone that you're straight and then turn around and say that your gay 2 yrs later. It's just selfish and irrisponsable. So to all the bisexuals out there never say that you are straight or gay. someone will wind up hurt in the end and everyone deserves the truth espicially if your sleeping with them.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:51 am


Vadasz Ravenari
There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, i just think that it's kind of counter-productive but in this case it's not such a bad thing.

What the ********? Are you saying that the SOLE PURPOSE we are on this planet is to make babies? Oh s**t, I can buy me some sperm and get the turkey baster out.

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Gays don't breed and the world has more than enough humans in it as far as I'm concerned.

Gay =/ infertile

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If I do have any porblem it would be the one's that can't make up their own minds.

Sexuality is fluid.

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Like the woman that decides after having a kid that she's a lesbian.

Except that having a child has nothing to do with your sexuality.

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That information would have been useful for the father of their child before they had a kid together, you know?

Learn more about sexuality, please.

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I think it's wrong to tell someone that you're straight and then turn around and say that your gay 2 yrs later. It's just selfish and irrisponsable.

Irresponsible like your grammar.

Sexuality can change in time. Do not take this for "Gays can be straight!"

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So to all the bisexuals out there never say that you are straight or gay. someone will wind up hurt in the end and everyone deserves the truth espicially if your sleeping with them.


What business is it of yours? How the hell can a bisexual hurt you if they sleep with you then sleep with a woman?

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Falsequivalence

PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:00 am


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Sexuality can change in time. Do not take this for "Gays can be straight!"

That's exactly what it means... and it goes with that being gay/bi/straight is a choice.
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Gay =/ infertile

But I doubt they are going to sexually reproduce...
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Except that having a child has nothing to do with your sexuality.

If a guy doesn't want to have sex with a girl, or the other way around, I doubt they are going to sexually reproduce.
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What the ********? Are you saying that the SOLE PURPOSE we are on this planet is to make babies? Oh s**t, I can buy me some sperm and get the turkey baster out.

Remember, humans are essentially animals. Our sole purpose is to carry on our genes to our offspring. That is why gay couples often adopt children, because they can't have biological children. If they are bi, that is different. I'm more comfortable around bi's than gays.
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What business is it of yours? How the hell can a bisexual hurt you if they sleep with you then sleep with a woman?

It would hurt me because they didn't tell me.
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