Yanueh
Hmm, the latest posts made me remember something else I want to rant about...
I'm sorry, but veganism is NOT the magic panacea for every ill in the world like you say it is. Even if everyone in the world went vegan, the starving people in third-world nations would still be starving because they'd still have no money for food.
What? You think the price for food would drop to the point where they could buy it? Really? I honestly doubt it, because in the real world there's this nasty little thing called "artificial inflation," where surplus goods are deliberately held back or even destroyed just so a premium can be maintained. If the people who had control of the food supply wanted, they could feed every starving person in the world right now. But they don't, because that would mean dropping the premium, which would mean less profit.
Oh, and veganism is not the magic cure for environmental ills that you think it is, especially when you're scarfing down soy (which is not the miracle food you think it is). Soy is incredibly hard on the ground, and most soybeans are genetically modified.
Also, it absolutely disgusts me that you harp on about how damaging animal product X is to the environment while putting on pleather and buying products with palm tree oil. Thanks, but I'll sooner "murder" a cow myself and take its hide and tallow before deliberately buying "cruelty-free" products that degrade into toxins and/or are grown on land that was rainforest and the home of our endangered cousin species, the orangutan.
Also, vegan diets simply make some people sick. The way you keep blaming the person rather than the diet after they tried everything under the sun to stay on a vegan diet makes me sick. Are you so brainwashed that you simply cannot comprehend that it doesn't work for everyone? At least I can acknowledge that the way I eat doesn't work for everyone and I can tolerate people who have to do something different to reach optimal health. I happen to have a good reason for eating the way I do: I'm hypoglycemic. Your "healthy" grains and plant foods, in the amounts that you think people ought to be eating, are a slow poison to me, and a surefire path to diabetes.
Oh, and our ancestors have been munching meat for 250,000 years. There is ample evidence for this in the fossil record. I think we've had enough time to adapt to it. Why don't we have claws or fangs? Because WE DON'T NEED THEM, IDIOT. We can throw rocks and spears or just bash the animal against the ground to death. If we're not feeling that ambitious, we can lift a rock and eat bugs. Ever eaten live bugs before? I have. They're a helluva lot easier to eat than most wild plants.
Also, the way you demonize us meat-eaters as monstrous psychopaths and cannibals-to-be is just stupid. If you actually took a moment to look at history, you'd find that less meat in the diet does not make a society more peaceful. In fact, cannibalism is more common in societies that eat less meat! Could it be that maybe, just maybe these people were getting so desperate for some kind of nutrient they weren't getting enough of in their normally-plant-based diets that they resorted to cannibalism to get it?
If you think less meat = more peaceful, you should really meet the ancient Assyrians. These people ate very little meat, but they were easily the most brutal warmongers of their time. Their economy was literally fueled by the spoils of war.
I'm sorry, but veganism is NOT the magic panacea for every ill in the world like you say it is. Even if everyone in the world went vegan, the starving people in third-world nations would still be starving because they'd still have no money for food.
What? You think the price for food would drop to the point where they could buy it? Really? I honestly doubt it, because in the real world there's this nasty little thing called "artificial inflation," where surplus goods are deliberately held back or even destroyed just so a premium can be maintained. If the people who had control of the food supply wanted, they could feed every starving person in the world right now. But they don't, because that would mean dropping the premium, which would mean less profit.
Oh, and veganism is not the magic cure for environmental ills that you think it is, especially when you're scarfing down soy (which is not the miracle food you think it is). Soy is incredibly hard on the ground, and most soybeans are genetically modified.
Also, it absolutely disgusts me that you harp on about how damaging animal product X is to the environment while putting on pleather and buying products with palm tree oil. Thanks, but I'll sooner "murder" a cow myself and take its hide and tallow before deliberately buying "cruelty-free" products that degrade into toxins and/or are grown on land that was rainforest and the home of our endangered cousin species, the orangutan.
Also, vegan diets simply make some people sick. The way you keep blaming the person rather than the diet after they tried everything under the sun to stay on a vegan diet makes me sick. Are you so brainwashed that you simply cannot comprehend that it doesn't work for everyone? At least I can acknowledge that the way I eat doesn't work for everyone and I can tolerate people who have to do something different to reach optimal health. I happen to have a good reason for eating the way I do: I'm hypoglycemic. Your "healthy" grains and plant foods, in the amounts that you think people ought to be eating, are a slow poison to me, and a surefire path to diabetes.
Oh, and our ancestors have been munching meat for 250,000 years. There is ample evidence for this in the fossil record. I think we've had enough time to adapt to it. Why don't we have claws or fangs? Because WE DON'T NEED THEM, IDIOT. We can throw rocks and spears or just bash the animal against the ground to death. If we're not feeling that ambitious, we can lift a rock and eat bugs. Ever eaten live bugs before? I have. They're a helluva lot easier to eat than most wild plants.
Also, the way you demonize us meat-eaters as monstrous psychopaths and cannibals-to-be is just stupid. If you actually took a moment to look at history, you'd find that less meat in the diet does not make a society more peaceful. In fact, cannibalism is more common in societies that eat less meat! Could it be that maybe, just maybe these people were getting so desperate for some kind of nutrient they weren't getting enough of in their normally-plant-based diets that they resorted to cannibalism to get it?
If you think less meat = more peaceful, you should really meet the ancient Assyrians. These people ate very little meat, but they were easily the most brutal warmongers of their time. Their economy was literally fueled by the spoils of war.
I truly don't have a problem with eating meat so much as the way we eat it in our society. We raise animals in a way that is detrimental to the environment and to the well-being of the animals, and then we process the meat in ways that are harmful to human health. Commercial beef is a completely different foodstuff from wild game, and it affects your body differently. I'm just saying if we're going to eat meat, we should do so mindfully. It's when we stop paying attention to the sources of our food that we start getting these problems.
The same is true for vegan food. My roommate's vegan, but she goes to Whole Foods and buys vegan TV dinners and all sorts of processed food with stamps that say "vegan" and "organic" and whatever. Even if all of these foods were up to vegan ideology in reality, they have still been transported hundreds if not thousands of miles to supermarket shelves. We have a wonderful local produce network in my area that I prefer to supermarket organics any day of the week, even though their method aren't always certified organic. My point is that there's no label you can pick and not worry about food anymore. We have to pay careful attention to where each meal comes from in order to minimize our impact on the earth and our bodies.
We're true omnivores, of which there aren't many in the animal kingdom. We have the ability to choose one of millions of calorie sources each day, and we have to consciously choose those that will supply us with our mineral needs, unlike the cow, whose every need is provided by the variety of a healthy pasture.
