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 Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:55 am
Lady Blodwynn Kusebia-san Caleidah Thing is, that is a heavy walker at best. NOT a Titan. That suit still has things that Titans do not, or at least I would assume it does. First and foremost, its size and frame allow for rapid insertion. I'm guessing it wouldn't be much bigger than a Hammerhead when laying flat or locked down in a "transport" mode. Secondly, it still looks like it can be refitted in the field, whereas Titans are only "refitted" maybe once a century, if even that. The thought of having extra Titan weapons laying around seems ridiculous and borderline heretical. well, they only have so many titans, and the weapons can get worn no matter the size. and this walker would be a perfect example of Tau Titans. if they, you know, maybe 10x the size and make it as deadly as the other titans (cept the orks, they got deadly, with all those guns on there) and plus more armor too. But the design should become a titan regardless, I mean look at it. It's a kitbash, not an official model. The Tau don't use massive robots, instead they rely on the Manta and other flyers for their super-heavy support and countering. The Tau structure their army around high-mobility and rapid insertion, something they can do with Crisis Suits, their skimmer tanks and the Manta, not with a giant robotic construct like the Imperium and certain alien races employ. Tau are beyond mechanized, they are air cavalry basically. Only thing I can imagine are flyers-converting to-mecha, Macross style... but this is beyond even GW's physics bending, isn't it?
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:02 am
Van Evok Lady Blodwynn Kusebia-san Caleidah Thing is, that is a heavy walker at best. NOT a Titan. That suit still has things that Titans do not, or at least I would assume it does. First and foremost, its size and frame allow for rapid insertion. I'm guessing it wouldn't be much bigger than a Hammerhead when laying flat or locked down in a "transport" mode. Secondly, it still looks like it can be refitted in the field, whereas Titans are only "refitted" maybe once a century, if even that. The thought of having extra Titan weapons laying around seems ridiculous and borderline heretical. well, they only have so many titans, and the weapons can get worn no matter the size. and this walker would be a perfect example of Tau Titans. if they, you know, maybe 10x the size and make it as deadly as the other titans (cept the orks, they got deadly, with all those guns on there) and plus more armor too. But the design should become a titan regardless, I mean look at it. It's a kitbash, not an official model. The Tau don't use massive robots, instead they rely on the Manta and other flyers for their super-heavy support and countering. The Tau structure their army around high-mobility and rapid insertion, something they can do with Crisis Suits, their skimmer tanks and the Manta, not with a giant robotic construct like the Imperium and certain alien races employ. Tau are beyond mechanized, they are air cavalry basically. Only thing I can imagine are flyers-converting to-mecha, Macross style... but this is beyond even GW's physics bending, isn't it? Let's try and keep encouragement from going any further now shall we?
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:17 pm
Van Evok Lady Blodwynn Kusebia-san Caleidah Thing is, that is a heavy walker at best. NOT a Titan. That suit still has things that Titans do not, or at least I would assume it does. First and foremost, its size and frame allow for rapid insertion. I'm guessing it wouldn't be much bigger than a Hammerhead when laying flat or locked down in a "transport" mode. Secondly, it still looks like it can be refitted in the field, whereas Titans are only "refitted" maybe once a century, if even that. The thought of having extra Titan weapons laying around seems ridiculous and borderline heretical. well, they only have so many titans, and the weapons can get worn no matter the size. and this walker would be a perfect example of Tau Titans. if they, you know, maybe 10x the size and make it as deadly as the other titans (cept the orks, they got deadly, with all those guns on there) and plus more armor too. But the design should become a titan regardless, I mean look at it. It's a kitbash, not an official model. The Tau don't use massive robots, instead they rely on the Manta and other flyers for their super-heavy support and countering. The Tau structure their army around high-mobility and rapid insertion, something they can do with Crisis Suits, their skimmer tanks and the Manta, not with a giant robotic construct like the Imperium and certain alien races employ. Tau are beyond mechanized, they are air cavalry basically. Only thing I can imagine are flyers-converting to-mecha, Macross style... but this is beyond even GW's physics bending, isn't it? No so much; the Cavalry used nowadays are actually the Tank battalions employed. If you had airborne Cav, they'd be tanks loaded into aircraft for rapid deployment. Think of the A10 Warthog: it's extremely durable and effective, despite it being a sub-sonic aircraft. That gives me an idea of a large carrier transport with four engines and a fuel bladder on top. Hmm...
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:27 am
Asmusei -Faceless Hunter- Van Evok Lady Blodwynn Kusebia-san Caleidah Thing is, that is a heavy walker at best. NOT a Titan. That suit still has things that Titans do not, or at least I would assume it does. First and foremost, its size and frame allow for rapid insertion. I'm guessing it wouldn't be much bigger than a Hammerhead when laying flat or locked down in a "transport" mode. Secondly, it still looks like it can be refitted in the field, whereas Titans are only "refitted" maybe once a century, if even that. The thought of having extra Titan weapons laying around seems ridiculous and borderline heretical. well, they only have so many titans, and the weapons can get worn no matter the size. and this walker would be a perfect example of Tau Titans. if they, you know, maybe 10x the size and make it as deadly as the other titans (cept the orks, they got deadly, with all those guns on there) and plus more armor too. But the design should become a titan regardless, I mean look at it. It's a kitbash, not an official model. The Tau don't use massive robots, instead they rely on the Manta and other flyers for their super-heavy support and countering. The Tau structure their army around high-mobility and rapid insertion, something they can do with Crisis Suits, their skimmer tanks and the Manta, not with a giant robotic construct like the Imperium and certain alien races employ. Tau are beyond mechanized, they are air cavalry basically. Only thing I can imagine are flyers-converting to-mecha, Macross style... but this is beyond even GW's physics bending, isn't it? No so much; the Cavalry used nowadays are actually the Tank battalions employed. If you had airborne Cav, they'd be tanks loaded into aircraft for rapid deployment. Think of the A10 Warthog: it's extremely durable and effective, despite it being a sub-sonic aircraft. That gives me an idea of a large carrier transport with four engines and a fuel bladder on top. Hmm... I thought amongst the lines of 1st Air Cav Div from the Vietnam war... all transported by helicopters, supported by first gunships, and artillery being transported underslung the helicopters. Replace Cobras with Hammerheads, Hueys with Devilfish, and add jetpacking battlesuits to keep up with the mobility...
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:13 am
Elysians might be better used as an example for proper air-cavalry, at least to some degree. The Tau really are an example of modern day mechanized infantry formations, only stripped down in support weaponry on squad level.
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:52 am
Hmmm hammerheads as cobras, could the tau tanks really fly that high, I thought they just hover above ground.
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:13 am
yeah, Hammerheads are skimmers, but most attack helicopters spend their time low over terrain to minimise exposure to enemy fire (nap-of-earth flight)
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:26 pm
Also to reduce chance of radar detection too. Aswell as to give as little possible fore warning of their approach or presence.
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:59 pm
and im guessing the hammerheads flare is disruption pods
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:26 pm
looking at it again and thinking. It looks like a Wanzer from the Front Mission series or perhaps a Armored Core
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Asmusei -Faceless Hunter-
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:22 pm
Van Evok Asmusei -Faceless Hunter- Van Evok Lady Blodwynn Kusebia-san Caleidah Thing is, that is a heavy walker at best. NOT a Titan. That suit still has things that Titans do not, or at least I would assume it does. First and foremost, its size and frame allow for rapid insertion. I'm guessing it wouldn't be much bigger than a Hammerhead when laying flat or locked down in a "transport" mode. Secondly, it still looks like it can be refitted in the field, whereas Titans are only "refitted" maybe once a century, if even that. The thought of having extra Titan weapons laying around seems ridiculous and borderline heretical. well, they only have so many titans, and the weapons can get worn no matter the size. and this walker would be a perfect example of Tau Titans. if they, you know, maybe 10x the size and make it as deadly as the other titans (cept the orks, they got deadly, with all those guns on there) and plus more armor too. But the design should become a titan regardless, I mean look at it. It's a kitbash, not an official model. The Tau don't use massive robots, instead they rely on the Manta and other flyers for their super-heavy support and countering. The Tau structure their army around high-mobility and rapid insertion, something they can do with Crisis Suits, their skimmer tanks and the Manta, not with a giant robotic construct like the Imperium and certain alien races employ. Tau are beyond mechanized, they are air cavalry basically. Only thing I can imagine are flyers-converting to-mecha, Macross style... but this is beyond even GW's physics bending, isn't it? No so much; the Cavalry used nowadays are actually the Tank battalions employed. If you had airborne Cav, they'd be tanks loaded into aircraft for rapid deployment. Think of the A10 Warthog: it's extremely durable and effective, despite it being a sub-sonic aircraft. That gives me an idea of a large carrier transport with four engines and a fuel bladder on top. Hmm... I thought amongst the lines of 1st Air Cav Div from the Vietnam war... all transported by helicopters, supported by first gunships, and artillery being transported underslung the helicopters. Replace Cobras with Hammerheads, Hueys with Devilfish, and add jetpacking battlesuits to keep up with the mobility... Disregard the Veitnam war as far as tactics go; we where not allowed to destroy enemy anti-air systems until they where fully operational, no important targets could be destroyed until at least a Colonel gave the direct order (rank just under the four General ranks) and we even told the Veitcong all of these rules. We went there to maintain a war, not win it. Look at the way things are set up now and in WW2; we moved them by boat first now air, and dropped them off at FOBs to have as a sweeping point. Our battalions sweep through areas by the main roads first, then through the country in a fanning motion. Artillery is a different story; we moved them by chopper because the jungle was a pain in the a**, but now we have the self-propelled pieces, like the M109 series.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:34 pm
Asmusei -Faceless Hunter- Van Evok Asmusei -Faceless Hunter- Van Evok Lady Blodwynn It's a kitbash, not an official model. The Tau don't use massive robots, instead they rely on the Manta and other flyers for their super-heavy support and countering. The Tau structure their army around high-mobility and rapid insertion, something they can do with Crisis Suits, their skimmer tanks and the Manta, not with a giant robotic construct like the Imperium and certain alien races employ. Tau are beyond mechanized, they are air cavalry basically. Only thing I can imagine are flyers-converting to-mecha, Macross style... but this is beyond even GW's physics bending, isn't it? No so much; the Cavalry used nowadays are actually the Tank battalions employed. If you had airborne Cav, they'd be tanks loaded into aircraft for rapid deployment. Think of the A10 Warthog: it's extremely durable and effective, despite it being a sub-sonic aircraft. That gives me an idea of a large carrier transport with four engines and a fuel bladder on top. Hmm... I thought amongst the lines of 1st Air Cav Div from the Vietnam war... all transported by helicopters, supported by first gunships, and artillery being transported underslung the helicopters. Replace Cobras with Hammerheads, Hueys with Devilfish, and add jetpacking battlesuits to keep up with the mobility... Disregard the Veitnam war as far as tactics go; we where not allowed to destroy enemy anti-air systems until they where fully operational, no important targets could be destroyed until at least a Colonel gave the direct order (rank just under the four General ranks) and we even told the Veitcong all of these rules. We went there to maintain a war, not win it. Look at the way things are set up now and in WW2; we moved them by boat first now air, and dropped them off at FOBs to have as a sweeping point. Our battalions sweep through areas by the main roads first, then through the country in a fanning motion. Artillery is a different story; we moved them by chopper because the jungle was a pain in the a**, but now we have the self-propelled pieces, like the M109 series. mind you, SP guns like M-107 were used to good effect at Khe Sanh...
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:41 pm
Tau roll more like Stryker infantry. One vehicle chassis fitted with various weaponry to fill multiple roles. So while one might be your troop carrying devilfish the next can be your Hammerhead with the 120mm main gun
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:25 am
Mat Tau roll more like Stryker infantry. One vehicle chassis fitted with various weaponry to fill multiple roles. So while one might be your troop carrying devilfish the next can be your Hammerhead with the 120mm main gun The same could be said of Space Marines really. They get an awful lot of mileage out of just two vehicle chassis. wink
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:41 am
I want a Tau character that is long range. Like, dedicated long range. Farsight has a Plasma Rifle, but...meh. Shadowsun? Too close range. I want a character that can call in coordinated long range air strikes and have some kind of modified rail cannon or...something... Seriously, though, Tau need a new long range character. Discuss. Potential topics:
New equipment for said character or Tau in general for the next book.
Potential statlines for said character.
New suit variants.
Units you would like to see/see changed.
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