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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:30 pm
Good to hear things are going better Aakosir ^_^ heart
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:48 pm
Eltanin Sadachbia Yeah, I had some mixed feelings about it.... I still do... but the guild would have completely died if I didn't I am afraid... and I think that it wouldn't be fair for me to keep relying on others to carry it when I wouldn't be able to really do it.... anyway... I hope I will be able to hold my control issues in check as the new owner starts to implement her ideas... wish me luck. Hun, we would not have let it die... i wouldn't have.... the people who were there, were there for YOU, and because YOU made it a safe environment.
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:54 pm
Thanks Shan, but that was part of my dilemma. The people that was keeping it active are all here in RST, and you guys have this guild to worry about... and the people that are active at Savvy that aren't on the crew at either place are still in this guild... I don't want to divide your attention from here to there when what I love about you guys is already here.
If it came down to it, I'm already happy here, and I don't want you guys working hard for me when I couldn't even begin to guess when I would be back to devote my attention to Savvy.
I knew that she wanted to make the place more active, and she wants to entice more younger folks to the guild, which I do agree with, because I wanted to help people learn how to use Gaia as well as make a safe place for everyone. I let her know that there is no reason to be banning or booting anyone, short of ToS violations and harassment. I also reiterated that she allow old crew who are still interested in being crew approach her, not her searching them out.
I was a little taken aback with the immediate name change... but when it comes down to it, it may be for the best...
As it is, I will be alright I think... I just hope you guys are.
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:15 am
ugh... gonk
my college is going nowhere. gonna drop my classes i have at the moment since i seem to be failing crying
what the hell am i supposed to do??? it will take me 10 years to get any degree at my intellegence rate. im slow to comprehend stuff. and im already in my mid life and only worked once in life which was over 10 years ago! how the hell do they expect you to know something if they wont hire you to teach you! scream gonk crying
i have twins to cloth, no child support, fs and medicaid is fine but that doesnt help with the other stuff and the fs dont go far now since food prices went up. I HATE IT!!!! what the hell am i to do????
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:50 am
Spooky-Fangula i have twins to cloth, no child support, fs and medicaid is fine but that doesnt help with the other stuff and the fs dont go far now since food prices went up. I HATE IT!!!! what the hell am i to do????
I was reading the payment infor to my husband and he was getting really mad...
Thank Foxy =^_^=
And we're headed to MD soon... I'm upset we're leaving so late, but I'll be driving during the say and my husband will drive at night. He apparantly only likes to drive at night and I hate to drive long distances at night. So I guess it works out, I guess. I just do not want to roll in to my mom's house at 4 am...
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:49 am
Aakosir Spooky-Fangula i have twins to cloth, no child support, fs and medicaid is fine but that doesnt help with the other stuff and the fs dont go far now since food prices went up. I HATE IT!!!! what the hell am i to do????
I was reading the payment infor to my husband and he was getting really mad...
Thank Foxy =^_^=
And we're headed to MD soon... I'm upset we're leaving so late, but I'll be driving during the say and my husband will drive at night. He apparantly only likes to drive at night and I hate to drive long distances at night. So I guess it works out, I guess. I just do not want to roll in to my mom's house at 4 am... yeah, i know the feeling.. My ex called me to tell me they were doing a Stop Pay soon!!! O.O he's so pissed... not sure for how long it will be either...
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:51 am
Eltanin Sadachbia Thanks Shan, but that was part of my dilemma. The people that was keeping it active are all here in RST, and you guys have this guild to worry about... and the people that are active at Savvy that aren't on the crew at either place are still in this guild... I don't want to divide your attention from here to there when what I love about you guys is already here. If it came down to it, I'm already happy here, and I don't want you guys working hard for me when I couldn't even begin to guess when I would be back to devote my attention to Savvy. I knew that she wanted to make the place more active, and she wants to entice more younger folks to the guild, which I do agree with, because I wanted to help people learn how to use Gaia as well as make a safe place for everyone. I let her know that there is no reason to be banning or booting anyone, short of ToS violations and harassment. I also reiterated that she allow old crew who are still interested in being crew approach her, not her searching them out. I was a little taken aback with the immediate name change... but when it comes down to it, it may be for the best... As it is, I will be alright I think... I just hope you guys are. *hugs tightly* i'm infuriated by her, as you well know.... but.... it wasn't too much, i wish you would have asked me before you gave away the guild... i had no problem picking up the slack, but, there's no use crying over spilt milk, when everyone is here as you said... *hugs*
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:43 pm
Well, doing art has put me in a better mood... I think that is what I should mainly stick to from now on. ...Thanks Shan heart . LOL
I got to playing with my tablet last night, and I just kept going when I thought I was done. I was up until 4 this morning. eek
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:25 pm
...*creeps in slowly, almost backs out with strange new name to a guild, peeks around*...What happened? I leave for less than a week, and people are angry at people, names are changed O.o Help?
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:04 pm
Still alive...just overworked (by uni) and not paid at all for the work I do do (apparently my uni pay them to have us xd ).
At least anaesthesia is interesting.
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:33 pm
I'm glad to see you are feeling better, Elta. smile I was feeling so guilty for stepping away fromw hat has become of SAVVY....
to be honest, that place was one of my favourite places to hang. I know I wasn't much of a poster there lately, but I've been lurking, and making investments to the place. I'm gonna miss it.
but aye, I suppose you are right. the RST is a handful, and we're all still here. hell, maybe the Network doesn't have to die just cause SAVVY is gone. smile we can take over as the defacto HQ, can't we?
anywho, huzzah for working problems out! ^.^ here's to you and your husband, Aakosir!
@ Spooky: don't give up now. sad it'll all be for nothing if you drop out, it's too late to get your classes refunded. at least stick out this semester. :hugs you.: I dunno about you, but I certainly don't wanna be stuck where I am.. I can't get a job without a degree (almost had two, by sheer luck, but missed my chance) and it looks like I'm gonna be living with my folks until I'm 24. iii-_-
Welcome Back, Clouded and Tabby! :hugs you both.: you've each been missed.
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:35 pm
XxcloudedsightxX ...*creeps in slowly, almost backs out with strange new name to a guild, peeks around*...What happened? I leave for less than a week, and people are angry at people, names are changed O.o Help? Long story that happened very quickly... The short version... My time on Gaia is going to be less and less, so I turned my guild over to the person who has invested as much gold and time in it as I have, because she has been there since the beginning, and we were both interested in seeing new people there... and the guild has been reformed and transformed over the course of the first day I turn it over... and the rest is drama I would rather lay to rest. Needless to say, feelings were hurt, and I should have went through things more slowly, and carefully. I didn't expect things to move so fast, and I tried to avoid hard feelings... and I utterly failed.
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:21 pm
Eltanin Sadachbia XxcloudedsightxX ...*creeps in slowly, almost backs out with strange new name to a guild, peeks around*...What happened? I leave for less than a week, and people are angry at people, names are changed O.o Help? Long story that happened very quickly... The short version... My time on Gaia is going to be less and less, so I turned my guild over to the person who has invested as much gold and time in it as I have, because she has been there since the beginning, and we were both interested in seeing new people there... and the guild has been reformed and transformed over the course of the first day I turn it over... and the rest is drama I would rather lay to rest. Needless to say, feelings were hurt, and I should have went through things more slowly, and carefully. I didn't expect things to move so fast, and I tried to avoid hard feelings... and I utterly failed. hey now, it wasn't your fault. sad you trusted that girl, and you obviously had good reason to. I'm willing to bet she hasn't done you wrong like this before. this wasn't your failure, Elta. don't beat yourself up over it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:05 am
Chieftain Twilight Eltanin Sadachbia XxcloudedsightxX ...*creeps in slowly, almost backs out with strange new name to a guild, peeks around*...What happened? I leave for less than a week, and people are angry at people, names are changed O.o Help? Long story that happened very quickly... The short version... My time on Gaia is going to be less and less, so I turned my guild over to the person who has invested as much gold and time in it as I have, because she has been there since the beginning, and we were both interested in seeing new people there... and the guild has been reformed and transformed over the course of the first day I turn it over... and the rest is drama I would rather lay to rest. Needless to say, feelings were hurt, and I should have went through things more slowly, and carefully. I didn't expect things to move so fast, and I tried to avoid hard feelings... and I utterly failed. hey now, it wasn't your fault. sad you trusted that girl, and you obviously had good reason to. I'm willing to bet she hasn't done you wrong like this before. this wasn't your failure, Elta. don't beat yourself up over it. I think it was mostly just a major oversight on my part. I was really trying hard to figure out a way to keep the guild up, even when I won't be able to be on everyday anymore, and I had made a few conclusions on my own, but had no way to implement them without first substantially increasing my activity... something I just can't do.... and shortly after I realized I would have to consider handing the guild over, she e-mailed me, and it had many of the things I had been concerned over, plus some solutions I hadn't really considered... so I took it as a sign, and a solution... I didn't realize that there was SO MUCH MORE that she wanted to do, and all at once... I should have taken time to outline what I expected to happen when I was no longer owner, and I should have taken more time to see what else she had in mind... ( stare I didn't even know what Kismet was until I Googled it. LOL) I still love lady enigma, she is one of my best online friends, and a guild isn't something that I would drop a friend for... and since I did hand the guild over, it is hers to do with as she sees fit, and I still hope for more activity there... but I don't like how people have been treated, and I still don't know how to go about really saying how I feel without her feeling alienated, yet still not downplaying how serious I feel about how she treated others.
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:22 am
Eltanin Sadachbia Chieftain Twilight Eltanin Sadachbia XxcloudedsightxX ...*creeps in slowly, almost backs out with strange new name to a guild, peeks around*...What happened? I leave for less than a week, and people are angry at people, names are changed O.o Help? Long story that happened very quickly... The short version... My time on Gaia is going to be less and less, so I turned my guild over to the person who has invested as much gold and time in it as I have, because she has been there since the beginning, and we were both interested in seeing new people there... and the guild has been reformed and transformed over the course of the first day I turn it over... and the rest is drama I would rather lay to rest. Needless to say, feelings were hurt, and I should have went through things more slowly, and carefully. I didn't expect things to move so fast, and I tried to avoid hard feelings... and I utterly failed. hey now, it wasn't your fault. sad you trusted that girl, and you obviously had good reason to. I'm willing to bet she hasn't done you wrong like this before. this wasn't your failure, Elta. don't beat yourself up over it. I think it was mostly just a major oversight on my part. I was really trying hard to figure out a way to keep the guild up, even when I won't be able to be on everyday anymore, and I had made a few conclusions on my own, but had no way to implement them without first substantially increasing my activity... something I just can't do.... and shortly after I realized I would have to consider handing the guild over, she e-mailed me, and it had many of the things I had been concerned over, plus some solutions I hadn't really considered... so I took it as a sign, and a solution... I didn't realize that there was SO MUCH MORE that she wanted to do, and all at once... I should have taken time to outline what I expected to happen when I was no longer owner, and I should have taken more time to see what else she had in mind... ( stare I didn't even know what Kismet was until I Googled it. LOL) I still love lady enigma, she is one of my best online friends, and a guild isn't something that I would drop a friend for... and since I did hand the guild over, it is hers to do with as she sees fit, and I still hope for more activity there... but I don't like how people have been treated, and I still don't know how to go about really saying how I feel without her feeling alienated, yet still not downplaying how serious I feel about how she treated others. it's a realy difficult balancing act. I'm a little more willing to be harsh about it, and tell her the straight up truth. but I totally understand the apprehension of doing that. honestly though, her plans are doomed to failure, and she's gonna get hurt one way or the other. view that as you will, I know it can have a variety of potential influences.
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