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 Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:59 pm
I got a question and it is annoying me as I try and figure out what it says in the Codex.
My brother is wanting to start up an IG army and so I was reading up on the rules so I can help him. He's liked them from the beginning and likes them more since DoW.
So I was reading about how the Heavy Weapons teams were supposed to work and it just seems to be running circles around my head. I'm going to try and explain how I think they work in the organization, but if I am wrong, an explanation would be greatly appreciated.
To use any Heavy Weapons Teams, you take a Junior Officer and staff as a Heavy Support option. Then additional guardsmen are taken to form weapons teams of three models. You can take up to two of each type, meaning 6 groups of 3 models. All this counts as 1 Heavy Support option, though they all act in independent units of 3 models and the Officer's.
Is this right or am I not reading something right?
Edit: Is this how all the infantry aspects of their army work?
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:14 pm
Uh, I think you're mighty confused.
A heavy weapons -squad- is 6 guardsmen. These 6 guardsmen are in 3 teams, each team has a heavy weapon. A -platoon- has a junior officer's command squad and a certain number of squads, and a -platoon- takes up a force organization slot.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:37 pm
I do not think that I could ever play an Imp Guard army. There are to many rules, and their units have a lot of organizational things that I would never be able to wrap my head around XP.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:44 pm
Justinsanelylucky I do not think that I could ever play an Imp Guard army. There are to many rules, and their units have a lot of organizational things that I would never be able to wrap my head around XP. It's not half so complicated as it looks. What it basically means is you have a bunch of required command squads and get more units per organization chart slot.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:47 pm
DarkElf27 Justinsanelylucky I do not think that I could ever play an Imp Guard army. There are to many rules, and their units have a lot of organizational things that I would never be able to wrap my head around XP. It's not half so complicated as it looks. What it basically means is you have a bunch of required command squads and get more units per organization chart slot. Huh, that is actually kind of cool. However I don't think I will be buying another army for quite some time XP. I remember when my friend used to play his IG...he always wiped the floor with me. Curse his tank company...
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:00 am
Tank Companies wipe the floor with anything that isn't prepared to face them. Plain and simple.
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:19 am
So you can take them as a single choice, or as a platoon?
Ex: I can take 3 Heavy Weapons Squads as 3 HS choices or a Platoon of all 6 types and two Leman Russ' as 3 HS choices.
Ex2: I can take 6 squads of guardsman as 6 Troop choices, or a Platoon of 5 as 1 Troop choice.
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:35 am
Aku Kami Kurayami
So you can take them as a single choice, or as a platoon?
Ex: I can take 3 Heavy Weapons Squads as 3 HS choices or a Platoon of all 6 types and two Leman Russ' as 3 HS choices.
Ex2: I can take 6 squads of guardsman as 6 Troop choices, or a Platoon of 5 as 1 Troop choice.Each heavy weapon squad is made up of six men and three heavy weapons. A mortar squad would have three mortars, but an anti-tank squad could have a lascannon and two missile launchers. 0-5 heavy weapon squads can only be fielded as part of the command platoon (your HQ choice) or 1-3 heavy weapon squads as part of a heavy weapons platoon led by a command squad with a junior officer (a heavy support choice). Example: You have a command squad with a heroic senior officer and four guardsmen. Attached to this command squad is an anti-tank squad, a fire support squad, two mortar squads and a special weapons squad. This will count as ONE HQ choice. A single troops choice is made up of one command squad led by a junior officer and between 2 and 5 infantry squads. Please read the codex thoroughly! 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:40 am
I have it right in front of me and I've read it over, and I am trying to understand it. I think I get more of it though.
So no matter what, infantry have to be lead in platoons, correct?
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:44 am
Aku Kami Kurayami I have it right in front of me and I've read it over, and I am trying to understand it. I think I get more of it though. So no matter what, infantry have to be lead in platoons, correct? Yes, ignoring doctrines for a moment infantry must be fielded in infantry platoons for the most part. For every infantry platoon that you field you can field one armoured fist squad and conscript platoon.
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:29 pm
And its bloody hilarious to see the reaction from people when you fully pimp out the Platoon and its "friends." 45 men in the platoon, 10 men and a Chimera, and then another 50 Conscripts.
An interesting thing was put forward by a friend the other day. With the new cover save from shooting, Guard allied armies may have found a new ability, as well as Orks. The Grot/Conscript walls. Shooting through them confers a 4+ cover save, so...yeah...^-^
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:04 pm
Caleidah
And its bloody hilarious to see the reaction from people when you fully pimp out the Platoon and its "friends." 45 men in the platoon, 10 men and a Chimera, and then another 50 Conscripts.
An interesting thing was put forward by a friend the other day. With the new cover save from shooting, Guard allied armies may have found a new ability, as well as Orks. The Grot/Conscript walls. Shooting through them confers a 4+ cover save, so...yeah...^-^"Charge!" "Do what!? Are you joking?!" "Just get in front of me!!"
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:49 pm
A conscript, the little twelve year olds!
Their exactly the same as Grotz biggrin
Imagine.....200 Conscripts.....
Oh s**t, Im scared.
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:28 pm
Psst....on a side note is anyone interested in buying or trading models for a set of brand-new Kasrkins?
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:11 am
Serebrate Psst....on a side note is anyone interested in buying or trading models for a set of brand-new Kasrkins? No need to spam it everywhere.
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