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From what I've seen, Gamesworkshop has pretty much okayed the use of Forgeworld for practically anything so long as you have the rules. Especially now that the rules for many of the vehicles are in non-FW rulebooks.
Luckily, my friends and compatriots don't mind me using my FW models because the only outlandish one is the Mach, which is only fielded in fairly large games where I need that kind of ordnace to keep going.

My thoughts about 5th-ed that may be contaminated by misunderstanding and apocolypse.


1.) True LOS: It is a freaking nightmare. I couldn't stand it, and nine times out of ten it was even working to my advantage. It often doesn't make sense, and instigates arguments almost every shooting phase.

2.) Wound allocation: wasn't too terribly bad. It doesn't make it all the easier to "snipe" special/heavy weapons, but it does help a little. Not that big a deal in the long run.

3.) Vehicles: Alright, now while I like the new damage table, and how it is modifiable, I absolutly hate the re-classification of defensive weapons. Heavy bloters are practically useless, as if you move you can only fire one. It also tosses the utility of a Stubber, unless you plan on sitting still all game. Basically forces Tanks to sit still if you want good utility out of them. Also, CC always strikes the rear armour (except on walkers, I think)

4.) Cover: Basically, most things on the table will get a good cover save, especially in apocolypse. Rediculously frustrating, but it works both ways (with vehicles too), so I won't complain too much. What I will complain about is that squads giving other squads a cover save is just rediculous.

5) Go to ground: It's a nice option, or can be. I didn't use it personally, but another player used it against a series of barrages that would have probably pinned him anyway, and ended up saving a few men.


It's affect on my IG: Armoured companies are a bit frustrating to run now. While I get a bit more toughness out of them, and can use the cover rules to decent effect with them, their firepower is more limited than before. They are less mobile, and I've always liked to be mobile. Also, they are useless in 2/3rds of scenrios, as I have mentioned previously. Since they can't capture objectives or quarters with vehicles, the best I can do is force draws. Tanks are also more vulnerable to assault, since CC always goes against rear armour.

All in all, I think my AC will be retired for awhile, in favor of Demons. I'll still break them out for team and apocolypse games, perhaps.

I hope so.

The guy at the event I played in said that supposedly the upcoming IG codex is supposed to make things more tank friendly. How exactly they will do this, and what exactly it will mean, is up in the air.

When did the list on their site go away?

Now that it's been brought up, I can't find it on the GW site (which, by the way, is painfully slow).

s**t neutral

Okay, so I think this is my first army list worth a damn, and I was wondeirng what everyone else thought. It's an 1850 point list.

Command Squad -120 points
Senior Officer- (Bolt pistol, Power weapon, Carapace armour, Iron discipline)
Medic- (Bolter, Carapace)
Veteran- (Bolter, Carapace)
2 Guardsmen- (2x Meltagun)

Fire Support Squad -90 points
3 Heavy Bolters- (Sharpshooters)

Anti-tank Squad -120 points
3 Lascannons- (Sharpshooters)


Storm Troopers -130 points
10 Storm troopers- (2x Meltagun, Infiltrate)

Storm Troopers -75 points
5 Storm troopers- (2x Meltagun, Deep strike)

3 Heavy Mortars -150 points


Platoon Command -147 points
Junior Officer- (Bolt pistol, Power weapon, Carapace armour, Honorifica Imperialis, Refractor field, Iron Discipline)
Medic- (Bolter, Carapace)
Veteran- (Bolter, Carapace)
2 Guardsmen- (2x Meltagun)

Infantry Squad -81 points
Veteran Sergeant- (Storm Bolter)
Guardsmen- (Plasma gun)

Infantry Squad -77 points
Veteran Sergeant- (Storm Bolter)
(Flamer)

Infantry Squad -66 points
(Flamer)

Infantry Squad -66 points
(Flamer)

Grenadiers -116 points
10 Grenadiers- (2x Grenade launcher)


Hellhound -132 points
Extra armour, Pintle mounted heavy Stubber


Leman Russ Exterminator -152 points
Hull mounted Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter sponsons, Extra armour, Pintle heavy Stubber

Leman Russ Vanquisher -180 points
Hull mounted Heavy Bolter, Extra armour

Leman Russ Annihilator -150 points
Hull mounted Lascannon, Extra armour

Doctrines
Storm Troopers/ Grenadiers
Sharpshooters
Close Order Drill
Iron Discipline

Senior officers cannot lead infantry platoons. ALL units labeled as "Guard Infantry" MUST take the cyber-enhanced doctrine. You might want to dump some of the veteran sergeants in the infantry squads in favour of an assault weapon. Other than that you field enough troops to contest and capture objectives, have decent anti-tank capabilities, maybe a little light on the anti-personal weaponry.

Keeping your squads bunched together within the command bubble or using vox casters might be more feasible.