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Caleidah

Eloquent Lunatic

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:24 am


Alexi Terianis
I suppose.

I still don't see it coming anytime soon. They already have half a dozen imperial factions, after all. Though, if you think about it, a faction like the skitarii could add some significantly cool things to the game. Melta-troops and plasma troops could be pretty common, but I'm not sure what they would use for a standard weapon.

What do you guys think? Hellguns? Bolters? It's already been said that they're much like Guard, so I think Hellguns would be more likely.



Hellguns. For the sake of the fluffiness and skill of the skitarii, if you were to technically field Grenadiers I think that you'd do alright. Higher BS, better save, better equipment.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:25 am


Alexi Terianis
I suppose.

I still don't see it coming anytime soon. They already have half a dozen imperial factions, after all. Though, if you think about it, a faction like the skitarii could add some significantly cool things to the game. Melta-troops and plasma troops could be pretty common, but I'm not sure what they would use for a standard weapon.

What do you guys think? Hellguns? Bolters? It's already been said that they're much like Guard, so I think Hellguns would be more likely.


I saw a mechanicus themed guard army somewhere. I dunno exactly what doctrines where used, but the heavy weapons were on big robot looking dudes, and all of the tanks were made to look like mini-titans.

CrackaDoom


CrackaDoom

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:32 am


Well, my Armored company is getting some long awaited action this weekend. I'm playing an apocolypse game with it, since that is basically the only thing it's viable for now neutral
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:06 pm


CrackaDoom
Well, my Armored company is getting some long awaited action this weekend. I'm playing an apocolypse game with it, since that is basically the only thing it's viable for now neutral
That's not entirely true, but it won't work in a 1v1 game, I don't think.

Good luck, however! It's good to hear the treads are hitting the field again, it's been too long since I got a game where I could let mine loose with any sort of freedom.

Alexi Terianis


CrackaDoom

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:15 pm


Alexi Terianis
CrackaDoom
Well, my Armored company is getting some long awaited action this weekend. I'm playing an apocolypse game with it, since that is basically the only thing it's viable for now neutral
That's not entirely true, but it won't work in a 1v1 game, I don't think.

Good luck, however! It's good to hear the treads are hitting the field again, it's been too long since I got a game where I could let mine loose with any sort of freedom.


Since the best I can do in 2/3rds of the new scenarios is force a draw through sheer firepower, I don't think my AC will be hitting the feild much in the future (except for apocolypse games). I may toss together some Chimeras and hellhounds and do a heavy mechanised, and If I'm lucky, people will let me use my counqeror ninja

But, more likly I'll just stick to demons for standard games.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:18 pm


Since when are FW pattern tanks barred from play? They have been balanced and tested (f**k you rule lawyers) plus they have flavour, something those thankless drones who crank out maths severely miss.

Hoxtalicious

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Alexi Terianis

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:33 pm


CrackaDoom
Since the best I can do in 2/3rds of the new scenarios is force a draw through sheer firepower, I don't think my AC will be hitting the feild much in the future (except for apocolypse games). I may toss together some Chimeras and hellhounds and do a heavy mechanised, and If I'm lucky, people will let me use my counqeror ninja

But, more likly I'll just stick to demons for standard games.
Bahhhh, that's no fun. I never play it alone, but if I have a team-mate (Especially other guard or sisters) I'll sometimes field it. It's a support group, and that much firepower requires something to support. When I play them, I also always bring storm troopers in chimeras to support my own functions, and I group those with my demolishers to use as shock troops. Plasma guns, hellguns, BS4 and demolishers looming over it all is a pretty hefty force for breaking a line.

Also, I use a heavy flamer on my Chimera, because of this.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:49 pm


Lt. Brookman
Since when are FW pattern tanks barred from play? They have been balanced and tested (f**k you rule lawyers) plus they have flavour, something those thankless drones who crank out maths severely miss.


You've always had to have permission, at least where I've played. My LGS is cool about it, but pickup games at GW are iffy. Plus, I've always used my own conqueror conversion, and the rules from the AC codex, as I can't qiuet afford Forgeworld....

CrackaDoom


Alexi Terianis

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:29 pm


CrackaDoom
You've always had to have permission, at least where I've played. My LGS is cool about it, but pickup games at GW are iffy. Plus, I've always used my own conqueror conversion, and the rules from the AC codex, as I can't qiuet afford Forgeworld....
Same here.

It pisses me off, since now when I'm facing tyranids or orks they always respond with:

"Are you kidding me? Of course you can't use your exterminator!" talk2hand
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:40 pm


Alexi Terianis
CrackaDoom
You've always had to have permission, at least where I've played. My LGS is cool about it, but pickup games at GW are iffy. Plus, I've always used my own conqueror conversion, and the rules from the AC codex, as I can't qiuet afford Forgeworld....
Same here.

It pisses me off, since now when I'm facing tyranids or orks they always respond with:

"Are you kidding me? Of course you can't use your exterminator!" talk2hand


In situations like those I just argue fluff on them. "They know that they're going to be fighting a swarm, so they'll bring a swarmbuster." My friends are idiots about that stuff, though. *snarl*

Caleidah

Eloquent Lunatic


Xenos Mortium

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:13 pm


And update, if anyone cares. I've decided on making a Leman Russ Annihilator. I used the Lascannons from the Predator set, and it turned out looking fairly well. That way I should always be getting in at least one good Lascannon shot at my target, which should be able to crack open just about any vehicle.

Two questions about that though. First off, would anyone more IA inclined be able to tell me it's base point cost? sweatdrop Secondly, I was thinking that it might be kind of expensive to just get a shot or two off per turn, so should I give it heavy bolter sponsons to give some extra firepower?


In other news, it seems kinda odd to give a quad autocannon multimeltas as sponsons, especially when all guns must fire on the same target.

Also, if someone won't play with you because you use Forgeworld, they're probably not going to be someone who's fun to play anyway, carring more about winning than just having some fun. That's what I really hate the most about the game, people like that.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:50 pm


Caleidah
Alexi Terianis
CrackaDoom
You've always had to have permission, at least where I've played. My LGS is cool about it, but pickup games at GW are iffy. Plus, I've always used my own conqueror conversion, and the rules from the AC codex, as I can't qiuet afford Forgeworld....
Same here.

It pisses me off, since now when I'm facing tyranids or orks they always respond with:

"Are you kidding me? Of course you can't use your exterminator!" talk2hand


In situations like those I just argue fluff on them. "They know that they're going to be fighting a swarm, so they'll bring a swarmbuster." My friends are idiots about that stuff, though. *snarl*
FW has always been hotly debated, but as Warwick put it: "If I can't field my Destroyer, why are you allowed to field the Avatar of Khaine?" I've asked around and all GW stores and tournaments allow for FW models to be used. Local games can be a bit iffy, but as long as you have the rules there shouldn't be a problem.

Hoxtalicious

Greedy Partner


Hoxtalicious

Greedy Partner

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:51 pm


Xenos Mortium
And update, if anyone cares. I've decided on making a Leman Russ Annihilator. I used the Lascannons from the Predator set, and it turned out looking fairly well. That way I should always be getting in at least one good Lascannon shot at my target, which should be able to crack open just about any vehicle.

Two questions about that though. First off, would anyone more IA inclined be able to tell me it's base point cost? sweatdrop Secondly, I was thinking that it might be kind of expensive to just get a shot or two off per turn, so should I give it heavy bolter sponsons to give some extra firepower?


In other news, it seems kinda odd to give a quad autocannon multimeltas as sponsons, especially when all guns must fire on the same target.

Also, if someone won't play with you because you use Forgeworld, they're probably not going to be someone who's fun to play anyway, carring more about winning than just having some fun. That's what I really hate the most about the game, people like that.
Check your inbox sometime today for the Annihilator.

It might be better to just give it a hull-mounted lascannon and leave it at that. The thing is already a prime tank hunter, no real reason to tack on heavy bolters as well.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:30 am


Lt. Brookman
Caleidah
Alexi Terianis
CrackaDoom
You've always had to have permission, at least where I've played. My LGS is cool about it, but pickup games at GW are iffy. Plus, I've always used my own conqueror conversion, and the rules from the AC codex, as I can't qiuet afford Forgeworld....
Same here.

It pisses me off, since now when I'm facing tyranids or orks they always respond with:

"Are you kidding me? Of course you can't use your exterminator!" talk2hand


In situations like those I just argue fluff on them. "They know that they're going to be fighting a swarm, so they'll bring a swarmbuster." My friends are idiots about that stuff, though. *snarl*
FW has always been hotly debated, but as Warwick put it: "If I can't field my Destroyer, why are you allowed to field the Avatar of Khaine?" I've asked around and all GW stores and tournaments allow for FW models to be used. Local games can be a bit iffy, but as long as you have the rules there shouldn't be a problem.


Around here, it's always been no FW for tournies and leuges, unless you get special permission. Though, I will admit to not having played in either in a good long time.

CrackaDoom


CrackaDoom

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:41 am


Xenos Mortium
And update, if anyone cares. I've decided on making a Leman Russ Annihilator. I used the Lascannons from the Predator set, and it turned out looking fairly well. That way I should always be getting in at least one good Lascannon shot at my target, which should be able to crack open just about any vehicle.


The annihilator always seemed redundant to me. Too expensive for something you can already accomplish with other things. The name, however, is cool as s**t.


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Also, if someone won't play with you because you use Forgeworld, they're probably not going to be someone who's fun to play anyway, carring more about winning than just having some fun. That's what I really hate the most about the game, people like that.


Sometimes it's that, but I find that most people have this idea that FW is outlandish and uber-powered, which is most definetly not the case.
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