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 Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:26 am
Xenos Mortium Asmondai But then comes a seriously good question:
Does anyone have an army of that size in points value?
Even with just 3 dreggys, 3 terminator squads, commanders and a land raider is around 2000 ps. @.@ I know someone with like 15,000 points between his Imperial Guard and his Tau. In his army his has three Baneblades and probably fifteen or so Russ's.
In anyways, it is true that there are peoples who have larger armies them mine,
I just haven´t seen them..... yet..... ninja
Hmmmm.... let´s see..... any rumours about what might pop-up on the re-done
version of the Space Marine codex?
I´m quessing they are giving grenades, pistols and ccw´s for free,
but is there anything else new for the marines?
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:53 pm
Asmondai Xenos Mortium Asmondai But then comes a seriously good question:
Does anyone have an army of that size in points value?
Even with just 3 dreggys, 3 terminator squads, commanders and a land raider is around 2000 ps. @.@ I know someone with like 15,000 points between his Imperial Guard and his Tau. In his army his has three Baneblades and probably fifteen or so Russ's.
In anyways, it is true that there are peoples who have larger armies them mine,
I just haven´t seen them..... yet..... ninja
Hmmmm.... let´s see..... any rumours about what might pop-up on the re-done
version of the Space Marine codex?
I´m quessing they are giving grenades, pistols and ccw´s for free,
but is there anything else new for the marines?they had BETTER give em some free grenades! bloody chaos jerks! and their rhinos are cheaper too!
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:52 pm
I haven't heard anything about it. Though, I am patiently waiting... I just hope that the wait pays off.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:15 pm
And Im hoping its just rumor, and doesnt happen at all.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:21 pm
King Kento And Im hoping its just rumor, and doesnt happen at all.
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:28 am
Nuclearwinter they had BETTER give em some free grenades! bloody chaos jerks! and their rhinos are cheaper too!
They need pistols, ccw AND bolters to beat the loyalists.
Who´s the "dog" now heretics?!? xd
DA´s and BA´s only got grenades and pistols for free. ninja
And the option to arm characters with more then 2 weapons,
like pair of ligthning-claws and storm bolter. surprised
We´ll just see what happens, I doubt they´ll shrink or remove some units
from the codex, hopefully puffing up some special characters alittle bit,
because some of the modern characters (Tigurius and Cassius, according to my friend) sucks. mad Xenos Mortium King Kento And Im hoping its just rumor, and doesnt happen at all.
What rumour?
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:27 am
Not only do they suck, but it is the simple fact that when it comes to people like me who choose to create a chapter, we have no hope of using any characters ever. But, in every other army, a character can be used in any form of army that they can make up. It really bites.
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:30 am
Shikokoro Not only do they suck, but it is the simple fact that when it comes to people like me who choose to create a chapter, we have no hope of using any characters ever. But, in every other army, a character can be used in any form of army that they can make up. It really bites.
You mean like you *have* to play Blood Angels to use Mephiston?
Well it would be pretty unfair to have Mephiston and Ezekiel in one army. Treat them as totally separate armies.
(Y)
-Mykal
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:57 pm
A.R.G.U.S Mykal Shikokoro Not only do they suck, but it is the simple fact that when it comes to people like me who choose to create a chapter, we have no hope of using any characters ever. But, in every other army, a character can be used in any form of army that they can make up. It really bites.
You mean like you *have* to play Blood Angels to use Mephiston?
Well it would be pretty unfair to have Mephiston and Ezekiel in one army. Treat them as totally separate armies.
(Y)
-Mykal
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:16 pm
Shikokoro A.R.G.U.S Mykal Shikokoro Not only do they suck, but it is the simple fact that when it comes to people like me who choose to create a chapter, we have no hope of using any characters ever. But, in every other army, a character can be used in any form of army that they can make up. It really bites.
You mean like you *have* to play Blood Angels to use Mephiston?
Well it would be pretty unfair to have Mephiston and Ezekiel in one army. Treat them as totally separate armies.
(Y)
-Mykal
I've not read it, so I'm not too sure, but last game you couldn't have Nurgle marching with Tzeentch.
Although when you look at it, Chaos only has a handful of characters. 6 spring to mind. The 4 Gods, Abaddon and Huron Blackheart. You can only have two of those at one time anyway. Compare that to the 4 characters for one faction in Marines with the 1 character per faction in Chaos, and it's rather even.
-Mykal
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:08 pm
A.R.G.U.S Mykal Shikokoro A.R.G.U.S Mykal Shikokoro Not only do they suck, but it is the simple fact that when it comes to people like me who choose to create a chapter, we have no hope of using any characters ever. But, in every other army, a character can be used in any form of army that they can make up. It really bites.
You mean like you *have* to play Blood Angels to use Mephiston?
Well it would be pretty unfair to have Mephiston and Ezekiel in one army. Treat them as totally separate armies.
(Y)
-Mykal
I've not read it, so I'm not too sure, but last game you couldn't have Nurgle marching with Tzeentch.
Although when you look at it, Chaos only has a handful of characters. 6 spring to mind. The 4 Gods, Abaddon and Huron Blackheart. You can only have two of those at one time anyway. Compare that to the 4 characters for one faction in Marines with the 1 character per faction in Chaos, and it's rather even.
-Mykal
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:08 pm
Asmondai Xenos Mortium King Kento And Im hoping its just rumor, and doesnt happen at all.
What rumour?Oh, I was agreeing with him. The rumour that they're going to remake the Space Marine Codex again, already. I mean, let the little guys have a break here! The Space Marines do not need to be updated once a year! @Shikokoro- Well, I think it makes sense. After all, remember that each army only has a few Characters, whereas the Space Marines have a few for each chapter. The Space Marines have twenty or so special characters, whereas the Orks, Necrons, Eldar, Witch Hunters, and Grey Knights all only have two. See the difference?
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:49 pm
In the last codex, any faction could march under the banner of undevided, indeed. They just became elites when you slapped the mark on them.
In the new codex, there are seven special characters, the seventh being Fabius Bile.
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:36 am
Asmondai King Kento And Im hoping its just rumor, and doesnt happen at all.
What rumour?
Im refering to the rumors of a new codex. Not only have marines been done to death as far as updates go. They dont need it. They lost a few options this codex, but it wasnt so bad, we got stats for drop pods, they became more than just deep striking every so often. Better land speeders, and a few other things, but most importantly, chapter creation rules.
I dont want to see my options taken away to make the game more noob friendly like theyve done with other armies. I dont see whats hard about "do i want grenades or dont I?", same goes for squad numbers, some people want seven to a squad. The Dark Angel and Blood Angel books were rediculous.
Granted, if they change it, me and my circle of friends will continue using our current codecies, but Id rather they just left them be and did Dark Eldar or something.
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:08 am
I think the DA´s and BA´s codex style is alot more easier to use then the
space marines traditional one, looking one page for the models and go back
like 10 pages to see the wargear listing and be later like:
Wait a minute, can I arm this thing to these guys....? (Example: Terminators with Pistols).
Nope, I cannot. >.<
And I don´t know about you guys, but I´ve noticed that I make more counting errors on SM codex then on DA codex.
You have a more direct list of gears you can give to this squad and to this model and with their designated points values,
even thougth I have to agree about the not having the "ps/model" but the
"X models for X ps",
but I get pass that by just dividing that ps-value to how much a single model would cost.
There´s also a problem with the DA´s and BA´s and that is the fact that most gears you see in Codex Space Marines, are not available.
Like Artificer Armours for characters and such and when you have 2 points value
depending on models wound amount, you lack that in DA and BA,
not the mention of having less characters and squad sizes on some units
have been downsided to a maximum of 5 (command squad terminators for example).
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