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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:59 pm
I'm split a couple ways right now, but they're all related. I got a research job doing climate physics/oceanography and have been reading up on/participating in groups on/applying to grad school in climate physics, environmental engineering, and urban and environmental policy.
Basically, I'm never going to stop wanting to learn math and physics and in general be a scientist, so I might as well put it to some good use.
Layra, where did you end up? Have you started focusing on anything yet?
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:18 pm
I'm at UPenn, probably doing differential geometry and mathphys. Although it turns out that I'm pretty bad at algebraic geometry, so mathphys might not be an option for me for much longer. Sheaves are scary.
Witten gave a talk here yesterday; I understood a tiny little bit because of my interest in mathphys and having done quite a bit of symplectic stuff, but I think only two people in the entire room (basically all of the math and physics departments) really had any idea what he was talking about. Also, he's not that good a lecturer or that good at explaining things.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:12 pm
I didn't realize mathphys was so dependent on algebraic geometry. I know there was a mathphys/alggeo group at a place I did an REU, but I never understood why those two should intertwine. I'm not exactly keen on finding out.
Maybe this is my own bitterness and bias against my alma mater, or against physicists and mathematicians in general, but there are extraordinarily few good lecturers in these fields and coming out of Princeton/IAS. I think it has to do with a distinct and wide disconnection from so much of reality. I've never heard Witten talk, but I had his wife for a physics class...brilliant scientist, horrible lecturer.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:24 pm
Perhaps. In my experience, it's because as you progress in maths and theophys, you internalize a lot of crap. And once you've internalized it, it becomes "obvious" and therefore it is beneath your abilities to explain. And this process never, ever stops. Because a lot of higher mathematics is a series of epiphanies; once you've seen something, a bunch of stuff comes together at once and it's all clear in hindsight. Never mind the hours upon hours of staring at the wall trying to piece these little disparate bits together; once you've seen the big picture it's trivial where each piece fits and you wonder why you didn't see it earlier. And thus, when it comes time to explain it to someone else, you only remember the end and if you're lucky the beginning, but the miles and miles in between have vanished. So you can't explain how you got to where you are and you can't understand why the student isn't already there with you.
I'm currently doing a jigsaw puzzle, so I'm getting this feeling every few minutes. I've sunk like at least 20 hours total so far into this thing and every piece I place it's like "oh, duh. Why didn't I see that before?" but before that it's like "this piece looks exactly like every other piece, and I can't find the piece I actually want." Why does the Earth have so much ******** water on it?
And yeah, a lot of theophys ends up talking about moduli spaces and invariants and while these sometimes have nice differential structures, usually they're not smooth manifolds (or indeed manifolds at all) so you need to use algebraic methods to deal with singular parts and all that jazz. Plus it's a lot easier to calculate and manipulate in algebraic terms than in analytic terms.
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:18 pm
Hmmm. It's true that I have encountered some arrogant people in math and phys. But they shouldn't be able to ruin the subject for the rest of us. Quote: Because a lot of higher mathematics is a series of epiphanies; once you've seen something, a bunch of stuff comes together at once and it's all clear in hindsight. Never mind the hours upon hours of staring at the wall trying to piece these little disparate bits together; once you've seen the big picture it's trivial where each piece fits and you wonder why you didn't see it earlier. And thus, when it comes time to explain it to someone else, you only remember the end and if you're lucky the beginning, but the miles and miles in between have vanished. So you can't explain how you got to where you are and you can't understand why the student isn't already there with you. It's not really that bad is it? I mean, aren't there textbooks devoted to explanations of how to get to it? The hard part is learning how to read them, though... And just learning to deal with a lot of foreign ideas. It's cool you got to hear Witten talk even if he's not that great a lecturer. Unfortunately being a good scientist doesn't always coincide with public speaking ability.
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:56 pm
Sure, there are textbooks. And a lot of those textbooks are horrible because the authors don't know how to explain either. It didn't sink in for me until recently, but unlike primary and high-school teachers, the main criterion for becoming a college or university professor is knowing a sufficient amount of stuff, as opposed to being able to teach.
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:03 am
I heard that smaller liberal arts colleges have more of an emphasis on teaching but for larger research universities yeah, the important thing is that the person can do research. Still even if you end up with a prof who is not a great lecturer I like to think you can learn from them by copying the parts of their style that you like. But maybe that is a bad idea... lol. I don't really know.
Anyway, I think once you get the basics of a subject down, and hopefully that is the easier part, then their teaching ability doesn't matter as much.
In reality, it's really frustrating to feel like they're talking in circles rather than giving you a simple explanation. -__- One of my profs this year specializes in giving "non-linear" explanations and I'm just like... "Um... I have no idea what you are trying to say." But I still like him because I think it's a "creative" way to teach physics. There are really a lot of good teachers out there. A lot of times I am initially skeptical of people because I read too much into the way they say something and start being critical or defensive right away but I realize if I listen to them more what they are saying is actually very interesting and worth listening to.
I haven't had/talked to as many math profs, but the ones I have had have frustrated me a lot more. About understanding the concept of things being "trivial," an example of trivial is like a solution where the function is identically 0... Right? It doesn't mean everything you learned in previous classes. But hopefully I can learn to have better focus and how to be able to talk to people like that without feeling like an idiot, but also without feeling like I have to "sell my soul" to do it. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:44 am
Layra-chan Sure, there are textbooks. And a lot of those textbooks are horrible because the authors don't know how to explain either. It didn't sink in for me until recently, but unlike primary and high-school teachers, the main criterion for becoming a college or university professor is knowing a sufficient amount of stuff, as opposed to being able to teach. That seems like such an obvious conclusion. If the professor can't explain it while he's teaching, it's probably not going to get better in book format. It might become more thorough or more organized, but often the primary missing points are still missing. This is especially true since most college textbooks, I feel, come out of lecture notes that were already prepared for a class. MIT is doing good work in trying to up the teaching ante. Every year they host workshops for grad students and professors on various aspects of public speaking, writing good science papers, designing problem set and test questions, organizing lectures, etc. Some of it's mandatory before you become a TA, but most of it...well, there's not as much enthusiasm as I would like. And to Mecill's point, "trivial" should be eliminated from the mathematical lexicon. "Obvious" and "trivial" concepts are ways for arrogant mathematicians (theory people in general) to either avoid having to explain themselves, avoid remembering earlier proofs, or generally feel better than everyone else.
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:54 am
I like "trivial" in the sense of "boring example". As in things like the 1-element group, or the empty set, or trivial bundles. But yeah, proofs and such being "trivial" is really irritating.
On a happier note, I found today I can draw Z2P³ pretty well. I'm going to try Z3P³ at some point. Finite projective spaces are fun.
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:00 am
Mecill In reality, it's really frustrating to feel like they're talking in circles rather than giving you a simple explanation. -__- One of my profs this year specializes in giving "non-linear" explanations and I'm just like... "Um... I have no idea what you are trying to say." But I still like him because I think it's a "creative" way to teach physics. There are really a lot of good teachers out there. A lot of times I am initially skeptical of people because I read too much into the way they say something and start being critical or defensive right away but I realize if I listen to them more what they are saying is actually very interesting and worth listening to. Sorry, forgot I wanted to say something about this part, too. Nonlinear is almost never a good way to explain a concept, but it's a great way to get a class to explore a concept. As long as you lay out the foundation and always keep clear 1) the assumptions or previous material involved (the beginning) and 2) the end goal/concept, explicable in simple everyday terms (the simple end), getting a class to explore different possible paths of reasoning from A to B can help a lot more people grasp the concept than you just showing them one path. This speaks to a more general phenomenon of asking inverse questions. Say you've gone over what eigenvectors are, how to find the eigenvectors of a matrix, etc. You think most of the class has the idea, but not the practice, and some of the class is still struggling on the concept. If you can get them to work as a class or at least in small groups on an inverse problem like: "Find as many 3x3 matrices with these (three) eigenvectors as you can" you engage a lot more students in thinking about eigenvectors in several different ways. The other thing that most people try to do when being "nonlinear" in their explanations - which actually works if done right - is bring in outside examples. Rather than just giving a strict, formal, abstract definition of a term/concept, give an example of its use in your field. In math, when you define an eigenvector you'd give an example of an eigenvector of a relatively simple matrix. Then, give another example from a slightly different field of math: the eigenvector/eigenfunction of a differrential operator. Finally, bring in something that looks completely unrelated at first, like a coupled spring or spinning top, and explain - with direct and clear references to the definition of the concept - how this new example fits in. Getting students to analyze the similarities and differences between these examples can really solidify the concept in their heads with a method of reasoning of their choosing. Then you can ask conceptual questions about the definition and applications to see if they're on the right track.
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:13 am
Layra-chan I like "trivial" in the sense of "boring example". As in things like the 1-element group, or the empty set, or trivial bundles. But yeah, proofs and such being "trivial" is really irritating. On a happier note, I found today I can draw Z2P³ pretty well. I'm going to try Z3P³ at some point. Finite projective spaces are fun. Trivial in that sense is fair. But yeah, for proofs? It's alright if you don't want to go over the entirety of a simple but long proof or even a simple but short proof, but make sure you give your audience at least a taste of the reasoning behind it. Blech, I have to draw some conceptual figures for a paper. Can't I just draw them by hand and scan them? I'm sure the referees would get a kick out of that before tossing my paper in the trash xd
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:55 am
One of my classes requires me to draw geometric figures a lot. I do them in crayon. I'd forgotten how bad the resolution of crayon is.
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:41 pm
First order logic sucks. It really, really sucks.
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:28 pm
It turns out that of the two explanations for why bosonic string theory has 26 dimensions, one of them is really unsatisfying. It boils down to needing to deal with a factor of Σn, where the sum ranges from n = 1 to infinity. Yes, the sum is of all the positive integers. We need to set (D-2)/2 times the sum to equal -1. Obviously, this is nonsense. Not so obviously, we replace Σn with ζ(-1), where ζ is the Riemann-Zeta function ζ(s) = Σn^{-s}; or more accurately, the meromorphic continuation of the Riemann-Zeta function. It still blows up at 1 and at -2k for positive integer k, but it is finite at -1, and equal to -1/12. So we get that -(D-2)/24 = -1, and thus that D = 26. FIND THE FISHY STEP.
There is also a rather nice explanation via algebraic geometry which does not involve summing all the positive integers and then playing coy with function representations.
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:06 am
Layra-chan First order logic sucks. It really, really sucks. Lol, I agree...
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