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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:57 pm


really i went to a mega battle and i controlled the command squad with 25 scouts,apocethary, master librarian,and a emperors champion and i pummeled those Tau easily the only thing i did not understand was that this one kid sent 3 stealth suits against sword brethren with chaplain you'd have to be an idiot to do that.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:34 pm


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I dont think he was referring to Ezekiel. hes asking about the Black Templars. Thus asking in the thread about sword brethren. And his initial question as to what he should play in a Black Templars army, to which he got several answers of Emperors Champion.

Where'd you get Dark Angels and Blood Angels from that?


The word "Master Librarian" made me assume he was asking
about a character from DA army, and the point that the question was made
after I mentioned DA´s "Hellfire" psychic power.

So far the only librarian character I know who holds the rank "Master" is
Ezekiel, unless he accidently confused "Ebistolary" from regular SM codex
with "Master" rank, in which case I apoligies. ^^"

As for Mephisto, I was just showing my opinion. 3nodding

And the first anwser is always Emperor´s Champion to BT army,
simply because only they have a strick rule that says that they MUST have
an Emperors Champion in presence if the armies total value is bigger then 750ps .


In regards to the Champion and the rule concerning him, that was the humor of it and that several people said it. As for librarians, keep in mind that there is Tigurius of the Ultramarines. He is their Master of the Librarium or whatever.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:47 pm


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really i went to a mega battle and i controlled the command squad with 25 scouts,apocethary, master librarian,and a emperors champion and i pummeled those Tau easily the only thing i did not understand was that this one kid sent 3 stealth suits against sword brethren with chaplain you'd have to be an idiot to do that.


eek Someone´s been pulling your leg, there is no way a scout squad
with 25 scouts can be a command squad, little alone having more then 10
models in one unit, also with the Librarian (Ebistolary) if it was a BT army.


King Kento


In regards to the Champion and the rule concerning him, that was the humor of it and that several people said it. As for librarians, keep in mind that there is Tigurius of the Ultramarines. He is their Master of the Librarium or whatever.


Oh. o.o
Well, 40k jokes hasn´t been my strongest point anyway. sweatdrop

True about Tigurius, but his rank name is "Chief", in which it may mean a
same rank level but not same rank title.
When you think it in this way, then Ezekiel is the only who´s rank name is
"Master", but I´m not saying that him, Tigurius and maybe Mephisto
do not shares a same rank, which is the highest of theyr chapters Librarium Order

I´m just saying Ezekiel holds "Master", Tigurius holds "Chief" and....
"Lord" for Mephisto? Not sure about him.....

But lets leave this one here, obviously he was talking about something
else then what I understood.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:49 pm


Had a match with my friends Nid´s on Saturday with my deathwing+ravenwing
army, got badly stoned, but it was purely the scenarions victory conditions fault.
I mean, what changes there are for defender to win, if he gets VP´s for every
scoring unit he has managed to get over the escape route, while attacker gains
VP´s for every woundet and destroyed and DOUBLES the units own points value.
So this would mean that I would only gain max-vp´s of 3000,
while my friend can rob 6000 vp´s.
I would highly say that between very slim and nil.
You can find this in "Ambush" mission in RAID scenarions.

But I also have a good question:
We came upon a situation where my terminator squad had destroyed my friends gaunt unit and made an consolitation move to warrior broods that where locked in CC with my dreadnought, so here comes a question:
Can the warrior broods also target the terminator squad that had just
consolitated on them, or should they have ignored them and only attack the dreadnought, untill the other CC-round? :-/

Also, I would like to warmly suggest to Admins that they would open up
a rulebook threath for both 40k and FB, so that general players can leave
theyr rulebook orientated questions there for everyone to find,
rather them having get lost in the "Codex/Armybook"-threaths. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:19 pm


Asmondai
Also, I would like to warmly suggest to Admins that they would open up a rulebook threath for both 40k and FB, so that general players can leave theyr rulebook orientated questions there for everyone to find, rather them having get lost in the "Codex/Armybook"-threaths. 3nodding


Suggestion noted and under cogitative scrutiny. I would like to point out that such a question thread will inevitably lead to people just asking for sections from the rulebook and focus less on the actual FAQ / troubleshooting itself.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:14 pm


Asmondai
Had a match with my friends Nid´s on Saturday with my deathwing+ravenwing
army, got badly stoned, but it was purely the scenarions victory conditions fault.
I mean, what changes there are for defender to win, if he gets VP´s for every
scoring unit he has managed to get over the escape route, while attacker gains
VP´s for every woundet and destroyed and DOUBLES the units own points value.
So this would mean that I would only gain max-vp´s of 3000,
while my friend can rob 6000 vp´s.
I would highly say that between very slim and nil.
You can find this in "Ambush" mission in RAID scenarions.

But I also have a good question:
We came upon a situation where my terminator squad had destroyed my friends gaunt unit and made an consolitation move to warrior broods that where locked in CC with my dreadnought, so here comes a question:
Can the warrior broods also target the terminator squad that had just
consolitated on them, or should they have ignored them and only attack the dreadnought, untill the other CC-round? :-/

Also, I would like to warmly suggest to Admins that they would open up
a rulebook threath for both 40k and FB, so that general players can leave
theyr rulebook orientated questions there for everyone to find,
rather them having get lost in the "Codex/Armybook"-threaths. 3nodding


Id say yes the nids can now attack the terminators. If youve entered assault range of them and engaged them, then regardless of whether you have attacks left or not that round, theyre targets.

And yeah, dont worry i noted the request for a rule thread.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:45 pm


King Kento

Id say yes the nids can now attack the terminators. If youve entered assault range of them and engaged them, then regardless of whether you have attacks left or not that round, theyre targets.

And yeah, dont worry i noted the request for a rule thread.


Ah, okay then.
I only quessed that it would work the sameway as in original Consolitation move rule,
meaning that the warriors couldn´t make their attacks on terminators untill
the next close combat round,
and wether or not the dreggy was destroyed, they would remain in their place.
But apparently not then. ^^"
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:42 am


Asmondai
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Id say yes the nids can now attack the terminators. If youve entered assault range of them and engaged them, then regardless of whether you have attacks left or not that round, theyre targets.

And yeah, dont worry i noted the request for a rule thread.


Ah, okay then.
I only quessed that it would work the sameway as in original Consolitation move rule,
meaning that the warriors couldn´t make their attacks on terminators untill
the next close combat round,
and wether or not the dreggy was destroyed, they would remain in their place.
But apparently not then. ^^"


I dunno, I think I'd have to agree with you on this one. I mean, when you think about it realistically, all combats get faught at the same time, we only roll them out one at a time because we lack more sets of arms. So, when you think about it this way, the Terminators really wouldn't have moved into the Tyranid's assault until the end of that combat phase, thus granting them attacks in the next round while making it so the warriors couldn't attack them either.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:23 pm


Razorith Vulsroy
Asmondai
King Kento

Id say yes the nids can now attack the terminators. If youve entered assault range of them and engaged them, then regardless of whether you have attacks left or not that round, theyre targets.

And yeah, dont worry i noted the request for a rule thread.


Ah, okay then.
I only quessed that it would work the sameway as in original Consolitation move rule,
meaning that the warriors couldn´t make their attacks on terminators untill
the next close combat round,
and wether or not the dreggy was destroyed, they would remain in their place.
But apparently not then. ^^"


I dunno, I think I'd have to agree with you on this one. I mean, when you think about it realistically, all combats get faught at the same time, we only roll them out one at a time because we lack more sets of arms. So, when you think about it this way, the Terminators really wouldn't have moved into the Tyranid's assault until the end of that combat phase, thus granting them attacks in the next round while making it so the warriors couldn't attack them either.


Thats what makes it a vague question. Anyways thinking it over, Id have to agree. For some reason i was thinking the tyranid player's turn.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:38 pm


ARRRGH! i hate those sisters of battle, space marines are obviously superiour.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:42 pm


Flametempest
ARRRGH! i hate those sisters of battle, space marines are obviously superiour.
Why thank you for this unneeded and unbased remark, care to clarify this or should I just slap the weekly award on you straight away d**k?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:27 am


while marines are superior, sisters are cheaper in points and definitely more pleasing to eye...

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King Kento

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:24 pm


I really dont like the sisters at all, visually, playing style, and fluff wise, but that was horrendously random, especially in the MARINE thread.

The spamming gets old.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:39 am


Hi everybody! I just had a little quick question...

If a Space Marine character is equipped with a bolter and a chainsword, does he get the extra attack from having the close combat weapon? Or does he only get the bonus if it's a bolt pistol and CCW?

I'm pretty sure he doesn't, but I'd just like to make sure before I commit points to WYSIWYG rules.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:06 am


Asmondai
But I also have a good question:
We came upon a situation where my terminator squad had destroyed my friends gaunt unit and made an consolitation move to warrior broods that where locked in CC with my dreadnought, so here comes a question:
Can the warrior broods also target the terminator squad that had just
consolitated on them, or should they have ignored them and only attack the dreadnought, untill the other CC-round? :-/


By the rules, the Warriors that were in base-to-base with the Termies HAVE to direct their attacks at the Termies. The ones in BtB with the Dread have to attack the Dread. If there were any that were in between the two, they could choose to direct attacks at either unit.
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