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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:37 am


against khorne, sadly you are bereft of biggest advantage, namely good assault because they are better... get as much shooting as you can and pray for first turn...
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:47 am


thanx for the tip

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:56 am


by the way what do you guys think about me adding a chaplain and sword brethren plus an apocethary
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:47 pm


Damian Burger
actually i was going to go against khorne and i know i'll have to have an emperors champion but i don't know what else to put in my army.

Look, you got to give a hint here.

For example Ive seen mob armies of templars. They focus on shooting and abusing the whole 10 marine 5 scout thing in one squad. Pretty scary when marines are outnumbering you, or when the BT are outshooting you.

A more common BT force is one based on close combat. In that case id reccomend some good 10 man sqauds of templars with close combat weapons and a special weapon. Give them crusader seals or whatever. Go with rhinos, or take the 5 scouts so theyre either moving fast or have numbers for the assault.

The Land Raider Crusader is a good choice as its a great way to move a good HQ unit, its perfect for close in armies, and its fluffy to the army. Id reccomend a Chaplain over a marshall if you only choose one HQ as a chaplain will be better for assaults. And even if you go for a numbers force a Marshal isnt bad, but losing a moral check isnt a big deal to an army that "falls forward".


Damian Burger
by the way what do you guys think about me adding a chaplain and sword brethren plus an apocethary


If youre footslogging an apothecary is a good idea for taking fire. But fi youre moving them in a Crusader, then its not really as worthwile. And against a khornate army itd be good to have some tanks.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:57 am


Damian Burger
does anybody know what to put in a 1000 point Black Templars force.

Seeings as you are going against a Khornate army... I would either suggest alot of firepower or some really really good close combat strategy. It is going to be a hard fought battle for you. i would only suggest going into close combat if you had to. Due to the fact that with the Berserkers' chain axes, the best armour save that you can make is a 4+. Yes, it is still a decent armour save... but, it can still work against you. Other than that... I suggest some 'praying' that the dice work for you and not your opponent. And, 'pray' that if they go into blood frenzy that it is against themselves and not on you. Blood frenzy reall really hurts... gonk

My brother plays a Khornate army and he has kicked my but a few times. We have played 15 games... and I have only won about 8 of them. So... as I said, it is going to be a hard fought battle. It is a good way to test your strategies though.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:31 am


if Khorne player is using new chaos codex, no khornate choppas, but 'zerkers get ws5 and furious charge (ouch!)
also terminators with mark of khorne can be very brutal, 3 attacks each, 4 for champions, 5 with twin lightning claws, and 6 with charge... more than most marine characters from "uodated" chapters like BA and DA

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:07 pm


Van Evok
if Khorne player is using new chaos codex, no khornate choppas, but 'zerkers get ws5 and furious charge (ouch!)
also terminators with mark of khorne can be very brutal, 3 attacks each, 4 for champions, 5 with twin lightning claws, and 6 with charge... more than most marine characters from "uodated" chapters like BA and DA

EEK!!! scream You have to be kidding me! It took me forever to find a somewhat useful stradegy to beat what he has now!!! gonk God, I hope he doesn't get the Codex too soon... I have to do some reading...
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:05 am


I find it rather odd and amusing that Khorne Berzerks doesn´t have Rending
rule.
I mean, they are Berzerks, they SHOULD have Rending rule. xd

But then again, WS5 and Furious Charge is nasty, along with Termies with
puffed up to max of 6 attacks is bad news. O.o"

But so is Death Company with Furious Charge, Rending, Feel no Pain, Fearless and Chaplain with it´s re-roll to hits. gonk

DA´s don´t have something similar unit, maybe just the librarian with Hellfire.
"Oooo, I got S8 and AP1! Whups, I schorched your Berzerks, how do you like that?" rofl


But seriously now, aim to spend points on long range units,
Khorne army will suffer severe pounding, depending on how your
oppoment has buildet his 1k army.
But I would warmly spend points on long range support,
and maybe couple cheap units of Crusaders to work as a meat-shield
againts incoming berzerks, possibly to tie them up for long enought
so that you can shoot them all in your shooting phase. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:18 pm


what about a master librarian?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:29 pm


Damian Burger
what about a master librarian?


The Black Templars cannot use librarians or ally with armies that have psychics other than the Inquisition.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:10 pm


Van Evok
against khorne, sadly you are bereft of biggest advantage, namely good assault because they are better... get as much shooting as you can and pray for first turn...


against an assult based army, usually the second turn is better. It forces them to expose themselves more to your shooting. Just don't deploy too close to your deployment line in case they have somthing fast.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:15 pm


beg to disagree, ability to kill rhinos before they pop grenade launchers is priceless

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:38 pm


Damian Burger
what about a master librarian?


Well yeah, the Mindworm power that Ezekiel has sounds prizeless.
Turn an independet Khorne champion into a wheeping loser sounds like fun. xd
Oh, how I miss that power that forced the oppoments to throw 3D6 LD´s tests. crying


King Kento

The Black Templars cannot use librarians or ally with armies that have psychics other than the Inquisition.


I think he was referring to Ezekiel.... sweatdrop
"Master Librarian" you see....

Honestly in my opinion, Mephisto is by far the baddest librarian in 40k,
having the ability to use all of his designated psychic powers, psychic hood AND force weapon ability in every turn. surprised
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:52 am


Asmondai
Damian Burger
what about a master librarian?


Well yeah, the Mindworm power that Ezekiel has sounds prizeless.
Turn an independet Khorne champion into a wheeping loser sounds like fun. xd
Oh, how I miss that power that forced the oppoments to throw 3D6 LD´s tests. crying


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The Black Templars cannot use librarians or ally with armies that have psychics other than the Inquisition.


I think he was referring to Ezekiel.... sweatdrop
"Master Librarian" you see....

Honestly in my opinion, Mephisto is by far the baddest librarian in 40k,
having the ability to use all of his designated psychic powers, psychic hood AND force weapon ability in every turn. surprised


I dont think he was referring to Ezekiel. hes asking about the Black Templars. Thus asking in the thread about sword brethren. And his initial question as to what he should play in a Black Templars army, to which he got several answers of Emperors Champion.

Where'd you get Dark Angels and Blood Angels from that?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:20 am


King Kento

I dont think he was referring to Ezekiel. hes asking about the Black Templars. Thus asking in the thread about sword brethren. And his initial question as to what he should play in a Black Templars army, to which he got several answers of Emperors Champion.

Where'd you get Dark Angels and Blood Angels from that?


The word "Master Librarian" made me assume he was asking
about a character from DA army, and the point that the question was made
after I mentioned DA´s "Hellfire" psychic power.

So far the only librarian character I know who holds the rank "Master" is
Ezekiel, unless he accidently confused "Ebistolary" from regular SM codex
with "Master" rank, in which case I apoligies. ^^"

As for Mephisto, I was just showing my opinion. 3nodding

And the first anwser is always Emperor´s Champion to BT army,
simply because only they have a strick rule that says that they MUST have
an Emperors Champion in presence if the armies total value is bigger then 750ps .
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