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The best thing about sugar hangovers, though, is that when you go to bed and wake up, as long as you've had dinner, it goes away or at least fades a lot. Poor wine-drinkers don't have that luck. gonk

And yes I've seen it! That was really good, but the whale thing with Peta was better... rofl

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Willzyx

I never said anything about a loop, and I was arguing against the only format in which our argument was arguable; That the universe is not in any specific shape, and just keeps getting bigger. Obviously, if there is a circumstance like the universe being on the surface of some 4 dimensional ball, then there would be no argument; After the stars would be... The other stars. There'd be no end.

As for "the Force that created the universe," as I said before, Occam's Razor. The simplest answer is often the correct one. There's no reason to bring religion into it. When I argue science like this, I pretend that God doesn't exist for the sake of it because He is... Too complicated. If I am to use God in science, it's too easy to call out, "Divine intervention!" "God threw that lightning, God makes the plants grow, God makes the rain come!" Sure, God is responsible for all of that. But He uses scientific proxies to cause all that to happen; The lightning strikes because of an inbalance in negatively and positively charged atoms in the clouds and the earth or more clouds. Plants grow because they gain the nutrients they need and go through a process called photosynthesis. The rain comes because there is so much water vapor in the clouds that it reaches the dew point, or something like that.

But the point is, even though God is responsible for everything, there is also always a scientific and rational explanation for it. So saying, "God just creates matter and energy as He goes along," doesn't work for me.

Check the pro-choice guild.

Can I please call them antis? Please? Pretty please?

Actually, though, I don't want to be allowed to call them antis, because it just creates... Troubles. But still. I really want to call them anti right now. sweatdrop Because if we are anti-choice, they are anti-life. That is to say, we are as much anti-life as we are anti-choice. In fact, they are -more- anti-life, because they support the killing, because no matter how you slice it they are supporting the snuffing out of lives. We support making abortion illegal, we aren't trying to force people to not have abortions. They still have that choice. They'll just be punished for it.

In news that makes me happier, some of them are sporting banners that are obviously mocking, badly I may add, my "Pro-Life Gaians: Because life has value" banner. ^_^ Which, in turn, is satire of their "Pro-Choice Gaians: We care. We abort." banner.

It makes me want to satire the satire of my satire of their banner. We could just go back and forth forever! In fact, I've already got a script:


For reference, the banner I'm reffering to is:


Because, you know, we totally support the abortion of any non-white babies.

I wonder if she even realises the falacy of that signature? I honostly can't imagine how many times I've seen some one use the harliquine fetus, and then some one say "yes, even that life matters."

I made the banner you wrote those lines for, just to see what it would look like, but I'm not sure if I should post it here or they'll go crazy like they did with the "Our women are hotter than yours" sig you made.

Wow I actually got this place back on track. No really she was always just snippy at me and I decided to give her a punch in the face.