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Look.
Just because he makes friends with younger chicks doesn't make him a bad person OR a ***** long as he hasn't ******** or molested any of these girls, he's clean as a whistle.
Flirting is harmless, and so is a telephone call.
So is asking for naked pictures.
He's a guy.
He's horny.
And if these girls like him enough to trust him with their little naked bodies, so be it.

A grown man asking for naked pictures of little girls IS NOT HARMLESS. Not at all, and, honestly, I'm surprised anyone would think so. Trying to meet up with 12 year old girls that he makes known he has FANTASIES about is NOT HARMLESS. I would even argue that a grown man who calls 12-15 year old girls that he meets on PYP threads on the internet is NOT HARMLESS, but that one couldhave an argument on both sides.

He's an adult.
He's horny.
He should get his jollies with other adults, and not with kids, and not by asking for kiddie porn.

Yes, it is harmless.
I didn't say it wasn't disturbing, but it's harmless.
If these girls are low enough to give it to him, knowing that he's much older, then that's their problem to work out in therapy in later years.

If these girls were so disturbed, why didn't they tell him to stop?
I've talked to the man.
He isn't silver-tongued, I can tell you that.
When I tell him no, he drops it, and that's that.
Stop making it seem like the girls are completely innocent.
Yes, it's pretty gross that he wants to meet up with 12 year old girls, but what does it say about the 12 year old who wants to meet up with him?
They're both messed up, but I know and love Ryuu, and I know he's not like that.

Saron
that makes me feel sick
I just can't believe it.
And I swear you read my mind.
I was think of that incident.

They are CHILDREN, Nox. Children being taken advantage of by a grown man. Yes, they SHOULD know better, but YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T, so why should they? Maybe they have low self esteem. Maybe they just feel flattered that an older man is paying them some attention. Who knows? But it IS illegal. And it IS wrong.

It's funny that you say it's gross (it is) and that they're both messed up (they are), but then you say that you know and love Ryuu, and you know he's not like that.

He's a guy. He's horny. He'll call 12 year old girls on the phone. He'll ask underage girls for naked pictures. He'll try to meet up with them. BUT THEN YOU THINK HE WON'T GO ALL THE WAY AND HAVE SEX WITH THEM, COMMITTING STATUTORY RAPE? What in the world would make you think that? He's a guy. He's HORNY. SHeesh.

what scott said cool

But Saron isn't Ryuu.. neutral

I had no problem with Ryuushin until he started talking VERY INAPPROPRIATELY to some of the youngest girls on the PYP thread. I gave him a chance to stop, then I gave him a chance to leave. He wouldn't do either. More people (read the comments from other girls in the thread) came to me and told me things that I haven't even written about because I don't have the proof like I do for the stuff on the LJ post. I didn't try to make anything out of this that wasn't already there. Your friendship with Jose is clouding your judgement. That's understandable, even a bit admirable. But, I assure you, I'm only trying to protect the underage girls that he is trying to prey upon. He's a bad guy, Nox. That's beyond any doubt. And I'm sorry that I have to tell you that, because it's never fun to hear that a friend is a bad person who does bad things.

Again, I appreciate that you are trying to defend your friend. But, just to let you know, I'm not letting this go. No hard feelings.