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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:46 pm


Gotta go listen now....
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:23 pm


have fun!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:41 pm


Rao, I posted some more ideas in Dark Winter...
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:53 pm


I saw them. I am reading them right now.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:59 pm


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I saw them. I am reading them right now.

||is awaiting your feedback on them||
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:00 pm


Well, Im really busy so it may take a bit.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:08 pm


The one major downside to your suggestion is that it involves using mental ability. The elemental magics of the world were released before the great war but this never wouldve caused some kind of major break through in the field of psionics. Maybe if you can do some kind of convincing as to how it would then ill think about it, but until then. No.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:28 pm


Can we post yet?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:39 pm


tis still locked down tight.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:42 pm


Damn again....

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:47 pm


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The one major downside to your suggestion is that it involves using mental ability. The elemental magics of the world were released before the great war but this never wouldve caused some kind of major break through in the field of psionics. Maybe if you can do some kind of convincing as to how it would then ill think about it, but until then. No.

<.< You are forgetting that the human brain is quite advanced, obviously the Psionist class would be more of an inherited trait but yeah, the mind would take refinement. Their psionic disciplines depends heavily on their INT and WIS stats. Human thought is just electrical impulses, and it has been researched that real psychokinesis as it is termed would be represented as a massive surge in brain activity and electrical impulses. Think of it as this, there are paranormal things in any reality, mainly being people who could believe that they had psychic powers such as telekinesis. Obviously the elemental magics of the world would have had an strange effect on random people, and the class would have to be restricted. Non-Elemental Magics... think about that! The psionics could be termed a psuedo-magic if you will... since a few of the psionic disciplines could mimic the effect of the elemental magics. Basically, they manipulate the forces of the elements around them with their minds but they have to know the discipline which would allow it, so the diciplines would be similar to spells, except they would have two requirements, INT and WIS and not just one.

Humans evolve all the time, every second, and it may not be visible but it is happening... learning could be termed an evolution... and evolution of knowledge just like researching is. Thing of the Psionist powers as a self-defensive evolutionary measure, since they can't use normal magics and are too fragile physically, their brain evolved to allow their mental strength to increase and become a weapon, in order to overcome those two weaknesses. It kind of like how a blind person who is not deaf will develop more advanced senses to make up for the impairment of not being able to see...
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:01 pm


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The one major downside to your suggestion is that it involves using mental ability. The elemental magics of the world were released before the great war but this never wouldve caused some kind of major break through in the field of psionics. Maybe if you can do some kind of convincing as to how it would then ill think about it, but until then. No.

<.< You are forgetting that the human brain is quite advanced, obviously the Psionist class would be more of an inherited trait but yeah, the mind would take refinement. Their psionic disciplines depends heavily on their INT and WIS stats. Human thought is just electrical impulses, and it has been researched that real psychokinesis as it is termed would be represented as a massive surge in brain activity and electrical impulses. Think of it as this, there are paranormal things in any reality, mainly being people who could believe that they had psychic powers such as telekinesis. Obviously the elemental magics of the world would have had an strange effect on random people, and the class would have to be restricted. Non-Elemental Magics... think about that! The psionics could be termed a psuedo-magic if you will... since a few of the psionic disciplines could mimic the effect of the elemental magics. Basically, they manipulate the forces of the elements around them with their minds but they have to know the discipline which would allow it, so the diciplines would be similar to spells, except they would have two requirements, INT and WIS and not just one.

Humans evolve all the time, every second, and it may not be visible but it is happening... learning could be termed an evolution... and evolution of knowledge just like researching is. Thing of the Psionist powers as a self-defensive evolutionary measure, since they can't use normal magics and are too fragile physically, their brain evolved to allow their mental strength to increase and become a weapon, in order to overcome those two weaknesses. It kind of like how a blind person who is not deaf will develop more advanced senses to make up for the impairment of not being able to see...

he's not forgetting the advancement of the human mind.it's just a non issue in his plot. it is not an elemental magic. the argument you gave is the general argument for Psionics, but the fact of the matter is it takes thousands of years for humans to evolve since it is done through survival of the fittest. the body of singular individuals has not been scientifically proven to happen at all. i don't think powers came about even a thousand years prior in the back story...so it wouldn't work. also people already had an outlet for adaptation, so they wouldn't have sprouted in a completely different direction.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:44 pm


Aria is right. That would have no way to involve a change due to part of any event in the story. The release of the Elements of Magite was very sudden and happened very rapidly, but it had no effect at all in individual people. When the elements were released, then the only thing that happened is people started fiddling with it and started to master its abilities. Magic is a practice, not inate.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:01 am


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Aria is right. That would have no way to involve a change due to part of any event in the story. The release of the Elements of Magite was very sudden and happened very rapidly, but it had no effect at all in individual people. When the elements were released, then the only thing that happened is people started fiddling with it and started to master its abilities. Magic is a practice, not inate.

How about this... people who were unable to utilize magic at all had to learn to use their mind in order to survive, and eventually this became a form of replacing that since obviously all human beings in dark winter have a form of magical energy to allow the casting of spells... and instead of trying and failing to learn elemental magic, they turned to trying to manipulating it with their will in order to protect themselves... eventually this resulted in a form of psuedo-psionic... and also... there has to be paranormal things in Dark Winter... elemental magic is supernatural.. you get the idea... in that way... the psionic abilities could be trained... you can train the mind you know...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:24 am


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Aria is right. That would have no way to involve a change due to part of any event in the story. The release of the Elements of Magite was very sudden and happened very rapidly, but it had no effect at all in individual people. When the elements were released, then the only thing that happened is people started fiddling with it and started to master its abilities. Magic is a practice, not inate.

How about this... people who were unable to utilize magic at all had to learn to use their mind in order to survive, and eventually this became a form of replacing that since obviously all human beings in dark winter have a form of magical energy to allow the casting of spells... and instead of trying and failing to learn elemental magic, they turned to trying to manipulating it with their will in order to protect themselves... eventually this resulted in a form of psuedo-psionic... and also... there has to be paranormal things in Dark Winter... elemental magic is supernatural.. you get the idea... in that way... the psionic abilities could be trained... you can train the mind you know...

from my understanding people based on his story don't have an innate power. they just use the power of other things that have been released just recently. eventually is not available as the release of the elements was sudden. also arguing that you should be able to play a psion simply because it's supernatural is like saying you should be able to play a ghost, or a soul reaver, or a flying worm in a vampire rp. it's not part of the story i read on devart. i doubt it's in his vision for said story. if you could just train psionic abilities than why can't you IRL? it has to exist before it can be trained. if they manipulate an elemental magite with your mind....it's called craft magic. and it carries the element type you have mastered. no non elemental magite was released. human beings in his story are human beings. it's the energy around them that changed...the human physiology is the same. also...in his story people survive all the time with no powers. look at the old world. it's not actually necessary for survival.

people who try and fail at math either learn math or they don't. if they find another way...it is still using numbers and thus still math. you can't create another way where you just know the numbers. and any other way to obtain them would be math. math is all that exists for its purpose here, and elemental s are all that exist for their purpose there. (i'm not trying to be mean here, but you are persistent and he wrote the story...and i like his back story. if he wanted something like da where all powers go...then he would make it so. he turned down my request for metal as an element too. it's just how the story goes.) also, you tend to use the word obviously way too often, and sometimes for things it cannot apply to. words like you know, or obviously are never words to be used in an argument where any facts are questionable. it makes you appear overly arrogant and oblivious. really the only use for the word obviously it to antagonize or point out someone's failure to see something, or someone's possible failure to see something. you know when used to end a statement when it is not grammatically correct like that also serves the same purpose. unless you use it like "finding someone you know.." or " be glad that there's something you know" where the you know is not tacked on carelessly as an afterthought then it comes off as you looking down on someone. it's rude. you also need a comma. the way you used you know is like "you can train the mind you know, but you cannot train the one you do not know." the rude condescending version you intended is preceded by a comma. like "people can train their mind, you know." many parts of this are way ruder than i'd like, but it was necessary to get the points across. really the way you use things like "you forgot that", "obviously," and "you know" make you come off as a far worse person than i know you are...i'm sorry. but you deserve to know why your ideas don't work here...and i don't have the people skills to make this come off softer. i'm really sorry.....please don't hate me....
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