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 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:28 pm
Knock Knock
Rank: B
Description: A purely sadistic move of the gunslinger though it only works with shotgun. The shotgun is propped up against a wall that is made of wood, unless the shotgun can break through something more. You quickly empty out the amuniton of the shotgun while its propped up against that object the first shot rips apart the object sending shrapnel at the while the second is just like a normal shot against them. First done by Zeran against the elven king Artenon pretending to be "room service"
Does this attack seriously cost energy? It's as simple as knocking and putting the gun up to the door.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:35 pm
Apparently you don't know, but a lot of the skills in this guild are complete bullshit.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:39 pm
A lot of skills like this should become "passive" once learned. If it doesn't require the use of energy, there just shouldn't be a cost in my opinion :/
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:26 pm
Fenrir Graveheart SorceressJacklyn X-x_iKemo_x-X In a lot of cases, there are people who just shouldn't fight a certain person due to their overwhelming advantage. Thats just how it is. :/ Like the Seer's and Trciksters. They are too fast so they will just trash them. Or like if a Gunslinger decides to keep his distance from a berserker, the berserker would be screwed. I know what you're saying but when one of them is hunting the other, it becomes necessary to do so. Liliana doesn't want to fight Fenrir but knows she will have to on the road to her wish and preserving her life. But what happens when you and Beth are the last two holding all the Sins hmm? >.> We've already discussed that so no worries. @iKemo: That's the point. But you and Fenrir still have the ability to dodge most of the attacks. @Arashi: No. Lili's going for Wrath for herself. About Cursed Souls: I was approached to remove them and have the conversation where the creator asked for their removal. End of story. Sorry about vanishing mid-discussion. Work comes first.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:36 pm
Yes but the amount of a boost these skills get is still too extreme. I'm going to try for the middle ground and say that your character must discard one of her weapons, and that one remaining weapon will count for two weapon slots. That way you still get a very large boost but its op isn't as questionable. Also, i'm matching this against my own character who gets a one rank boost in strength to his class skills, but it also counts as two weapon slots for him.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:44 pm
Fenrir Graveheart Yes but the amount of a boost these skills get is still too extreme. I'm going to try for the middle ground and say that your character must discard one of her weapons, and that one remaining weapon will count for two weapon slots. That way you still get a very large boost but its op isn't as questionable. Also, i'm matching this against my own character who gets a one rank boost in strength to his class skills, but it also counts as two weapon slots for him. The weapons don't give over a +2 boost. It's only when bl adds in that it becomes what you're considering OP. I followed the weapon rules here. And if memory serves, You approved at least one of them... *goes back to check for sure*
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:51 pm
SorceressJacklyn Fenrir Graveheart Yes but the amount of a boost these skills get is still too extreme. I'm going to try for the middle ground and say that your character must discard one of her weapons, and that one remaining weapon will count for two weapon slots. That way you still get a very large boost but its op isn't as questionable. Also, i'm matching this against my own character who gets a one rank boost in strength to his class skills, but it also counts as two weapon slots for him. The weapons don't give over a +2 boost. It's only when bl adds in that it becomes what you're considering OP. I followed the weapon rules here. And if memory serves, You approved at least one of them... *goes back to check for sure* I probably did, but only for one. It isn't fair for you to later create another weapon to double the effects of the first. So please discard one.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:09 pm
Fenrir Graveheart SorceressJacklyn Fenrir Graveheart Yes but the amount of a boost these skills get is still too extreme. I'm going to try for the middle ground and say that your character must discard one of her weapons, and that one remaining weapon will count for two weapon slots. That way you still get a very large boost but its op isn't as questionable. Also, i'm matching this against my own character who gets a one rank boost in strength to his class skills, but it also counts as two weapon slots for him. The weapons don't give over a +2 boost. It's only when bl adds in that it becomes what you're considering OP. I followed the weapon rules here. And if memory serves, You approved at least one of them... *goes back to check for sure* I probably did, but only for one. It isn't fair for you to later create another weapon to double the effects of the first. So please discard one. Actually, according to your rules, what I have is allowable. I have a screencap of your rules right here. In the second to last line, it says the boost cannot be over +2 outside of any BL skills. Which this adheres to.  ((Click for a bigger version))
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:13 pm
SorceressJacklyn Fenrir Graveheart SorceressJacklyn Fenrir Graveheart Yes but the amount of a boost these skills get is still too extreme. I'm going to try for the middle ground and say that your character must discard one of her weapons, and that one remaining weapon will count for two weapon slots. That way you still get a very large boost but its op isn't as questionable. Also, i'm matching this against my own character who gets a one rank boost in strength to his class skills, but it also counts as two weapon slots for him. The weapons don't give over a +2 boost. It's only when bl adds in that it becomes what you're considering OP. I followed the weapon rules here. And if memory serves, You approved at least one of them... *goes back to check for sure* I probably did, but only for one. It isn't fair for you to later create another weapon to double the effects of the first. So please discard one. Actually, according to your rules, what I have is allowable. I have a screencap of your rules right here. In the second to last line, it says the boost cannot be over +2 outside of any BL skills. Which this adheres to. ((Click for a bigger version)) Which would be fine if it only applied to a single skill or attack, but it doesn't. You're boosting an entire skill set, twice. So I will tell you for the third time today jacklyn, please discard one of those weapons.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:30 pm
Fenrir Graveheart SorceressJacklyn Fenrir Graveheart SorceressJacklyn Fenrir Graveheart Yes but the amount of a boost these skills get is still too extreme. I'm going to try for the middle ground and say that your character must discard one of her weapons, and that one remaining weapon will count for two weapon slots. That way you still get a very large boost but its op isn't as questionable. Also, i'm matching this against my own character who gets a one rank boost in strength to his class skills, but it also counts as two weapon slots for him. The weapons don't give over a +2 boost. It's only when bl adds in that it becomes what you're considering OP. I followed the weapon rules here. And if memory serves, You approved at least one of them... *goes back to check for sure* I probably did, but only for one. It isn't fair for you to later create another weapon to double the effects of the first. So please discard one. Actually, according to your rules, what I have is allowable. I have a screencap of your rules right here. In the second to last line, it says the boost cannot be over +2 outside of any BL skills. Which this adheres to. ((Click for a bigger version)) Which would be fine if it only applied to a single skill or attack, but it doesn't. You're boosting an entire skill set, twice. So I will tell you for the third time today jacklyn, please discard one of those weapons. If I may input something. It never said anything about it had to boost only one skill, so what she is doing is still within the rules.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:35 pm
Arashikage2 Fenrir Graveheart SorceressJacklyn Fenrir Graveheart SorceressJacklyn Fenrir Graveheart Yes but the amount of a boost these skills get is still too extreme. I'm going to try for the middle ground and say that your character must discard one of her weapons, and that one remaining weapon will count for two weapon slots. That way you still get a very large boost but its op isn't as questionable. Also, i'm matching this against my own character who gets a one rank boost in strength to his class skills, but it also counts as two weapon slots for him. The weapons don't give over a +2 boost. It's only when bl adds in that it becomes what you're considering OP. I followed the weapon rules here. And if memory serves, You approved at least one of them... *goes back to check for sure* I probably did, but only for one. It isn't fair for you to later create another weapon to double the effects of the first. So please discard one. Actually, according to your rules, what I have is allowable. I have a screencap of your rules right here. In the second to last line, it says the boost cannot be over +2 outside of any BL skills. Which this adheres to. ((Click for a bigger version)) Which would be fine if it only applied to a single skill or attack, but it doesn't. You're boosting an entire skill set, twice. So I will tell you for the third time today jacklyn, please discard one of those weapons. If I may input something. It never said anything about it had to boost only one skill, so what she is doing is still within the rules. This is true. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:46 pm
hank you for your comments but please drop the subject. Fenrir and I are currently discussing the matter further in private.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:51 pm
Well that got resolved quickly. Lol
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:58 pm
Fenrir Graveheart Well that got resolved quickly. Lol Yeah. Privately speaking is always better than dragging it through public.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:00 pm
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