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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:03 pm


Unrelinquished Despair
Havik, it does make sense because the 'sexiness' attribute is about physical allure, and isn't based on any rank factors.


So saying this, someone who says No if they are in a relationship and no they aren't looking, would completely ignore the Sexy attribute.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:11 pm


Antonio Inferni
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Havik, it does make sense because the 'sexiness' attribute is about physical allure, and isn't based on any rank factors.


So saying this, someone who says No if they are in a relationship and no they aren't looking, would completely ignore the Sexy attribute.

Actually, not being interested in forming relationships won't make you resist the attribute. "Not interested" simply means you haven't found anyone yet who has captured your interest. Essentially, as soon as you meet a sexy ninja your character is attracted to via sexuality, then that status shifts to "interested" unless you have the cunning attribute in secondary or higher slot.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:16 pm


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Okay I use Havik (My Rpc) and Zenko (Despairs Rpc) as examples.

Zenko has hers as a Primary, and Havik's has Cunning as Tertiary... Now at this point, Havik would more adept to seeing she was manipulating him, but not to the point were it would stop him, it would be a very small amount, and Despair would have to let me, or mess up pretty bad for Havik to see it.

But Havik is the tailed host of Kaku, who is the cunning demon, so as a passive I am treated like I am one rank higher when dealing with my cunning stats. Now, I understand that Sexy is not rank specific, but a Genin tricking a Kage into something JUST because she is cute is not possible, there is tact that only comes with experience (Or in this case rank). So with my added bonus of cunning Zenko would have to try a bit harder, or know exactly what Havik likes to be able to trick him, she would be able to, but it wouldn't be as easy as doing it to someone with no cunning added to there character.

Not true at all, the Sexy attribute ignores rank completely. You're just as sexy as a genin as you are as a sannin, and being of higher rank doesn't make you any less susceptible to the trait.
That makes absolutely no sense, a genin would be just as attractive, and might get away with a bit, but should not have the same effect as another Sannin would when it came to how well they can 'lure' or use 'seduction'

If that is the way it is now then it needs to be changed, because it is Op, they can be as attractive as they want to be, but there powers of seduction should not be as strong as possible, and able to fool any one at any level. I can not agree with that, it simple doesn't make any sort of sense.


And how doesn't that make sense? Being attracted to someone has nothing to do with experience in combat, so why should a bunch of technique learning make you any more resistant to being attracted to someone? You don't get any sexier for learning a taijutsu skill or completing a mission, so why should such things increase your resistance to sexy?

With the exception of the combat ability, the Sexy attribute is the only attribute who's abilities really only affects the roleplay outside of combat. Therefore, your experience in the ways of combat don't have any link to how you handle lust.
To me all attributes effect the role play in all ways because it help determine how the Rpc's act.

It isn't about them being attractive, it is them USING there attractiveness, they will be just as beautiful as a Genin as they would a Sannin, but they should not have the same effect on the higher ranks simple because the higher ranks would be more cunning then they are.

Higher ranked nin are simple smarter than lower ranked ones and should be able to tell more easily weather or not the lower ranked nin are using sexual tactics to get what they want. It wont be as plain as "I am a Chuunin and your a Genin I know what your doing." but it should not be a op as a Genin being able to manipulate a Sannin or Kage. This to me is the common sense part of the sexy attribute were rank comes into play because it simple makes sense that it would.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:17 pm


Deil Grist
Antonio Inferni
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Havik, it does make sense because the 'sexiness' attribute is about physical allure, and isn't based on any rank factors.


So saying this, someone who says No if they are in a relationship and no they aren't looking, would completely ignore the Sexy attribute.

Actually, not being interested in forming relationships won't make you resist the attribute. "Not interested" simply means you haven't found anyone yet who has captured your interest. Essentially, as soon as you meet a sexy ninja your character is attracted to via sexuality, then that status shifts to "interested" unless you have the cunning attribute in secondary or higher slot.


Point, but a lot of things other then the cunning attribute should work with them. Lets say, because I'm planning to make a character like this, someone is a cold hearted b*****d who doesn't care about anyone. It wouldn't make sense for that person to be affected by the Sexy attribute. They don't have cunning, nor anything else but their personality, that would keep them from falling into that trap. Are you telling me that they would still be affected by the sexy attribute.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:17 pm


Logic people! Logic! Sexy does not automatically give unbelivable powers of seduction. I mean, dude, you can look as attractive as you want but the world is not going to fall to their feet worshipping you. Its all in how you use your 'assets' to 'appeal' to others. That and like I said in my response to Nano, its all in how your rpc talks/reacts as well. Their words are not hypnotic. People can just as easily brush them off.

Like Meta said, 'sexy' has to do with more physical than ranks. I mean sure your looks can change as you rank up and than in itself can help make your rpc look better but how do explain that. I mean some people could have their rpcs age 2 years and still be genin. So obviously, their rpc's figure might change and they might become more attractive. In that sense, you can't place rank on this.

As a general comment, I don't think its wise for like 4 crew members to be disagreeing on one simple topic. If this many mods are needed, this needs to be moved to the crew fourm and discuss there. This does not really reflect well on us if we're opening going against each other. Sure, it's fine if we try to assist each other and correct each other while answering other questions but this debate has gone on for a pretty long time. I say we move it to the crew thread and we'll finish it up there and if anything, we'll leave diliberation to Cobra. Sound good?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:21 pm


Antonio Inferni
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Antonio Inferni
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Havik, it does make sense because the 'sexiness' attribute is about physical allure, and isn't based on any rank factors.


So saying this, someone who says No if they are in a relationship and no they aren't looking, would completely ignore the Sexy attribute.

Actually, not being interested in forming relationships won't make you resist the attribute. "Not interested" simply means you haven't found anyone yet who has captured your interest. Essentially, as soon as you meet a sexy ninja your character is attracted to via sexuality, then that status shifts to "interested" unless you have the cunning attribute in secondary or higher slot.


Point, but a lot of things other then the cunning attribute should work with them. Lets say, because I'm planning to make a character like this, someone is a cold hearted b*****d who doesn't care about anyone. It wouldn't make sense for that person to be affected by the Sexy attribute. They don't have cunning, nor anything else but their personality, that would keep them from falling into that trap. Are you telling me that they would still be affected by the sexy attribute.


Technically, the personality will help to put out more resistance but it won't stop your rpc from thinking that person is attractive. It just mean's its harder fo that person to show it outright or be as moved by it. So pretty much a 'she's pretty good looking but whatever'. Simple, and straight to the point. It covers both your rpc's personality while taking in note of the peron's rpc's sexy attribute.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:23 pm


White Water Lilly
Logic people! Logic! Sexy does not automatically give unbelivable powers of seduction. I mean, dude, you can look as attractive as you want but the world is not going to fall to their feet worshipping you. Its all in how you use your 'assets' to 'appeal' to others. That and like I said in my response to Nano, its all in how your rpc talks/reacts as well. Their words are not hypnotic. People can just as easily brush them off.

Like Meta said, 'sexy' has to do with more physical than ranks. I mean sure your looks can change as you rank up and than in itself can help make your rpc look better but how do explain that. I mean some people could have their rpcs age 2 years and still be genin. So obviously, their rpc's figure might change and they might become more attractive. In that sense, you can't place rank on this.

As a general comment, I don't think its wise for like 4 crew members to be disagreeing on one simple topic. If this many mods are needed, this needs to be moved to the crew fourm and discuss there. This does not really reflect well on us if we're opening going against each other. Sure, it's fine if we try to assist each other and correct each other while answering other questions but this debate has gone on for a pretty long time. I say we move it to the crew thread and we'll finish it up there and if anything, we'll leave diliberation to Cobra. Sound good?
I have always been more of a "Let any one see what I say." kinda person, but I understand the need to keep certain things for just crew, so if your not the only that thinks it should move along somewhere else then I can agree.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:26 pm


White Water Lilly
Antonio Inferni
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Antonio Inferni
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Havik, it does make sense because the 'sexiness' attribute is about physical allure, and isn't based on any rank factors.


So saying this, someone who says No if they are in a relationship and no they aren't looking, would completely ignore the Sexy attribute.

Actually, not being interested in forming relationships won't make you resist the attribute. "Not interested" simply means you haven't found anyone yet who has captured your interest. Essentially, as soon as you meet a sexy ninja your character is attracted to via sexuality, then that status shifts to "interested" unless you have the cunning attribute in secondary or higher slot.


Point, but a lot of things other then the cunning attribute should work with them. Lets say, because I'm planning to make a character like this, someone is a cold hearted b*****d who doesn't care about anyone. It wouldn't make sense for that person to be affected by the Sexy attribute. They don't have cunning, nor anything else but their personality, that would keep them from falling into that trap. Are you telling me that they would still be affected by the sexy attribute.


Technically, the personality will help to put out more resistance but it won't stop your rpc from thinking that person is attractive. It just mean's its harder fo that person to show it outright or be as moved by it. So pretty much a 'she's pretty good looking but whatever'. Simple, and straight to the point. It covers both your rpc's personality while taking in note of the peron's rpc's sexy attribute.


A GREAT example of this is Sai's notice of Zenko.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:26 pm


Antonio Inferni
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Antonio Inferni
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Havik, it does make sense because the 'sexiness' attribute is about physical allure, and isn't based on any rank factors.


So saying this, someone who says No if they are in a relationship and no they aren't looking, would completely ignore the Sexy attribute.

Actually, not being interested in forming relationships won't make you resist the attribute. "Not interested" simply means you haven't found anyone yet who has captured your interest. Essentially, as soon as you meet a sexy ninja your character is attracted to via sexuality, then that status shifts to "interested" unless you have the cunning attribute in secondary or higher slot.

Point, but a lot of things other then the cunning attribute should work with them. Lets say, because I'm planning to make a character like this, someone is a cold hearted b*****d who doesn't care about anyone. It wouldn't make sense for that person to be affected by the Sexy attribute. They don't have cunning, nor anything else but their personality, that would keep them from falling into that trap. Are you telling me that they would still be affected by the sexy attribute.

Even cold-hearted bastards can get raging boners. Lust isn't an emotion, but a survival instinct of the body. It doesn't matter that you have no intention of forming a meaningful relationship with the sexy ninja. All you would care about is how soon you can get in bed with them to satisfy your body's urges.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:31 pm


I'm not saying we should shut the general public from this debate but this is serious getting out of hand and I think it'll be best if us crew discuss it amoungst ourselves first and then we'll summerize the rulling here. It saves from clutter and in general, not give people the wrong impression (like how the crew is totally against each other. Which we're no but yeah).

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:33 pm


White Water Lilly
I'm not saying we should shut the general public from this debate but this is serious getting out of hand and I think it'll be best if us crew discuss it amoungst ourselves first and then we'll summerize the rulling here. It saves from clutter and in general, not give people the wrong impression (like how the crew is totally against each other. Which we're no but yeah).
I can see what you mean, I guess to me it is hard to see what other people deem out of hand.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:53 pm


Umm how come some bloodlines grant modifiers and bonus' yet others do not. It seems rather unfair to those that dont. Should it not be an all or none kind of thing.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:18 am


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Umm how come some bloodlines grant modifiers and bonus' yet others do not. It seems rather unfair to those that dont. Should it not be an all or none kind of thing.


Not at all, this logic dictates that Mokuton should be available to all bloodlines because otherwise it is unfair that they only get that particular perk. Every bloodline has its pros and cons, and should some pros appear better to you than others then that is more than likely because you personally perceive certain things as more important than others.

Specific examples would be really helpful when making this sort of comment or criticism.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:18 am


Azeiel The Fallen
Umm how come some bloodlines grant modifiers and bonus' yet others do not. It seems rather unfair to those that dont. Should it not be an all or none kind of thing.

All bloodlines grant something that no other bloodlines have in general, that's the whole point. To standardize modifier bonuses would make them all similar.

Is there a specific example you are referring to?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:48 pm


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Azeiel The Fallen
Umm how come some bloodlines grant modifiers and bonus' yet others do not. It seems rather unfair to those that dont. Should it not be an all or none kind of thing.

All bloodlines grant something that no other bloodlines have in general, that's the whole point. To standardize modifier bonuses would make them all similar.

Is there a specific example you are referring to?


Well I think I know what he means about some things. Our Custom Bloodlines have 'perks' that correspond with out Attribute/Specialty system.

For example compare the perks of the Mokuton Bloodline to the Mayu Clan.
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