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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:35 pm


I sometimes don't feel the need to even leave any reasons why I voted on a certain thing, as some of you may have noticed. In this case, I simply liked FE 6's feel better, I can't really describe it more than that. I've played FE 7 more than i've played FE 6, actually, and while I like FE 7's upgrades and gameplay...well, I keep regarding FE 6 as superior. If FE 7 hadn't been a prequel of anything, it'd stand out more to me. But no, Hector is a character you can love or hate and ship pairings with in FE 7 but the fact remains that in 6, the prior game in the series, he's just an extra that dies as a plot device. After I played 6 and went back to 7, it felt like mere fanfiction to me.

Overall, I just like 6's plot better. I haven't played all the games nor do I even care to go through the complicated (to me) patching procedures in order to do that much. So, in comparison to 6, i've got 3 others to possibly choose - 7, 8, and Shadow Dragon. I already don't like FE 7 for being somewhat of an unecessary prequel that doesn't really add anything to world that comes storywise in FE 6 besides the very few characters who return (Karel, MAYBE Bartre if you take his path in the story, unplayable Eliwood who can fit the role of king just fine without having a prequel) and the characters that are IMPLIED to be born from the now unmentioned 'dead' characters. FE 8 is obviously not the best even on my uninformed standards, and Shadow Dragon just...didn't really feel that solid or compelling (this can be attributed to the fact that it was a remake, obviously).

FE 7 was good, yes. I thought it was great, actually before playing FE 6. It just lost its 'flavor' in comparison. Obviously, no one else shares that opinion, but hey...that's just my take on it.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:41 pm


@FD: I guess I'll just save that link for future use and thanks haha.

@Lolwut: I technically haven't really asked for it, but thanks for the heads up. I sometimes don't think things through haha. I've used emulators before so it's all good and it's alright for assuming I didn't. But if I do need help, I'll probably ask here

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:55 pm


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@FD: I guess I'll just save that link for future use and thanks haha.

@Lolwut: I technically haven't really asked for it, but thanks for the heads up. I sometimes don't think things through haha. I've used emulators before so it's all good and it's alright for assuming I didn't. But if I do need help, I'll probably ask here

It's fine, it would just be a shame for someone good and honest who didn't mean to break the rules to get it trouble for it. And when that time comes, I'd be honoured to help if you need it. I made a thread on patching too if you need it for that time.

Also: giving links to patches is perfectly fine, in fact, here is a patch I'm playing right now!

@ FD: OH MY GOD, YOU HAVE TO PLAY SUPER THRACIA, IT ROTS MY BRAIN TO MUSH AND MAKES ME WANT MORE ROTTING OF MY BRAIN! <33333

EDIT: Just read the first thing the translated readme says:
■ Patch
・ Much more for any damage or destruction of data, such as health damage caused by this patch, not assume any responsibility.

Needless to say: it has driven me crazy a couple of times already. =_=
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:17 pm


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@FD: I guess I'll just save that link for future use and thanks haha.

@Lolwut: I technically haven't really asked for it, but thanks for the heads up. I sometimes don't think things through haha. I've used emulators before so it's all good and it's alright for assuming I didn't. But if I do need help, I'll probably ask here

It's fine, it would just be a shame for someone good and honest who didn't mean to break the rules to get it trouble for it. And when that time comes, I'd be honoured to help if you need it. I made a thread on patching too if you need it for that time.

Also: giving links to patches is perfectly fine, in fact, here is a patch I'm playing right now!

@ FD: OH MY GOD, YOU HAVE TO PLAY SUPER THRACIA, IT ROTS MY BRAIN TO MUSH AND MAKES ME WANT MORE ROTTING OF MY BRAIN! <33333

EDIT: Just read the first thing the translated readme says:
■ Patch
・ Much more for any damage or destruction of data, such as health damage caused by this patch, not assume any responsibility.

Needless to say: it has driven me crazy a couple of times already. =_=

I've seen a video of someone trying out Super Thracia. All I can say is that it certainly is a crazy attempt at that game...I know someday I will be trying it out because I am ALWAYS out for a new challenge. Right now I just need to beat chapter 21 without going crazy, like I did in chapters 20 and 17a.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:34 pm


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@FD: I guess I'll just save that link for future use and thanks haha.

@Lolwut: I technically haven't really asked for it, but thanks for the heads up. I sometimes don't think things through haha. I've used emulators before so it's all good and it's alright for assuming I didn't. But if I do need help, I'll probably ask here

It's fine, it would just be a shame for someone good and honest who didn't mean to break the rules to get it trouble for it. And when that time comes, I'd be honoured to help if you need it. I made a thread on patching too if you need it for that time.

Also: giving links to patches is perfectly fine, in fact, here is a patch I'm playing right now!

@ FD: OH MY GOD, YOU HAVE TO PLAY SUPER THRACIA, IT ROTS MY BRAIN TO MUSH AND MAKES ME WANT MORE ROTTING OF MY BRAIN! <33333

EDIT: Just read the first thing the translated readme says:
■ Patch
・ Much more for any damage or destruction of data, such as health damage caused by this patch, not assume any responsibility.

Needless to say: it has driven me crazy a couple of times already. =_=

I've seen a video of someone trying out Super Thracia. All I can say is that it certainly is a crazy attempt at that game...I know someday I will be trying it out because I am ALWAYS out for a new challenge. Right now I just need to beat chapter 21 without going crazy, like I did in chapters 20 and 17a.

I personally find it like the original, just with more.. impossible odds. As long as you pick your fights wisely and run like Hell when you shouldn't be fighting, it's stupidly hard, but not impossible.
It's great you're playing FE5, I thought you said somewhere that you were going to get back to it at a later time, but nonetheless, I'm impressed with how far you've gotten. First time, it took me a couple of months of hiatus, then a few plays later, it's my personal favourite in the series I know getting Linoan to the church for promotion is a bitchy process in 21 and the Long Arch fetish the enemies have going on ain't so cute either. 17a was just pure Cyas trolling in his greatest form there, although the Mage Knight reinforcements are the biggest thing that drove me crazy in that chapter. And just for future advice: you may or may not want to do 24x, it is without a doubt: the hardest, most infuriating chapter in Fire Emblem history, but on the other hand, it's canon as I bet you know what it's going to be about.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:33 pm


@Rath: I understand, but I said before that I was choosing out of the two games that I actually played. I'm honestly not surprised that games before FE9 had racism. But FE8, the only other game I have actually played, does not.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:30 pm


Lolwut: ....Oh, don't get my started on a star wars debate, lol, I will mop the floor. Not really, though. I understand that people like the classics better because they ARE the classics. What I don't like is when people say that one trilogy is good while the other isn't, hopefully you're not of those people. The classic trilogy was spectacular, but my favorite movie out of all of them has got to be episode 1. Brilliant characters and actors, and even though it could be seen as stale, that's because it had to be. Really nice opening, and overall plot, not to mention it opens you up to an even larger aspect of the politics of the galaxy, which the classics did not give you. I found it very, very fascinating.
You didn't really answer my question, though... I really didn't know what game you were referring to, when you said "relying on magic users and dragons". But I think FD filled me in, so I'm good. I thought you meant us, the players, having to rely of those types of units.
..Also, I'm not trying to shove anything down anybody's throat, I was merely engaging in a discussion, relaying my own opinions, in opposition of his.

FD: I agree with how you are responding to Demon, but I will point out that the fact that you get two separate routes, with Ilia and Sacae, gives it something that FE7 does not. But, if getting two separate routes was all it took to make a game better, then FE8 would not be the worst. I found the FE6 plot to be a tad juvenile, myself. It's like... what, half of his "army" that are children, which are NOT trained soldiers? I also hated how Roy is seen as this fabulous leader for ignoring Merlinus, who is really just being completely logical and strategic the entire time. It's like... okay, you're making Merlinus, the rational advisor, seem like an a*****e. ..Why is he even here, again? Oh right, he's a unit that takes up a slot, unlike in FE7.

Demon: I never said you could not have an opinion that is not mine, I'm merely trying to have a worthwhile discussion.

Lyon: Oh, I did not realize you had not played FE7. o_o You need to like.. play it now, so that I do not drop dead from shock.

FD+Lolwut: In regards to FE4, no I have not played it, but I do know various characters and am aware of some of the plot basics, so I'm not completely oblivious to the game. The reason I haven't played it is because I just haven't taken the time to download the ROM, plus it seems really, really... broken. Also, something VERY minor, which I can easily look passed, because it is not an objective reason to not play it.... the character artwork... bugs.. the heck out of me. >_>
But, maybe I will like it. You said it was great on politics, which is something I'd probably find interesting. For instance, my favourite Harry Potter, not including the finale, is the Order of the Phoenix, because of the ministry's corruption. Delores Umbridge is magnificent.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:31 pm


Rath- I must admit as both a nostalgiawhore and a son to a Father who is a major geek. I grew up on the original trilogy and I've always watched the older ones, but I'm not that extreme to say that IV-VI is better than I-III. I-III have their moments action packed moments and everything in between what makes Star Wars, Star Wars. in fact the final duel in III is one of the most beautiful renovated scenes I have ever watched. What I enjoyed about Episode I was the fact that it wasn't just literally "star wars" but there was normal warfare, city warfare, the works, but of course, there's more to Star Wars than just wars, and I feel Episode I provided all of it.
Just like FE6 and 7, I admit I find myself playing FE6 more than 7, but both are almost equal, I was just picking 6 to help Demon out. And I guess FD provided a lot although there is a lot of other FE's that rely on that sort of stuff, as in:

DISCLAIMER: I'M NOT THAT PRICKLY, JUST CHOOSING AN EXTREME TO PROVE MY POINT; DON'T EAT ME, I LOVE FE AS MUCH AS THE REST OF YOU! D;

1- Meduith
2- an evil God (so sort of like a last minute FE10 in there they decided to throw in at the last second)
3 (Book II)- Garnef, Meduith (the guy just doesn't die, doesn't he?) and the Shield of Seals
6- not so much, but there is a comical villain manipulating the whole war without the caliber of FE4 and 5's plot
7- FD covered
8, nuff' said,
9&10- furries everywhere, holy holepunch!
Tearring Saga- From what I played (not fully translated, but it's still a great game), it's a rehash of 4 but without the interesting politics.

And it's fine, I guess I was just viewing the situation differently, never stopping to think that it's just opinions. I am from the VGD you know and there is a lot of "anti-opinion" people in there thinking they're always right, so sorry for jumping to conclusions, you are most definitely not one of those people. -__-

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:45 pm


What?? I agree with Lolwut Pear.... Choosing (especially somthing like this.) isn't that easy....So no murdering canabolism, 'kay?

FE 11 : I don't know if FE 1, 3, 11 have the exact plot line... But there isn't much to 11 when it comes to story. The plot is kinda used rather often: "The villain must die by a certain sword" is used....

FE 10: Oh my gosh the world is endanger!! BUT this game was rather fun cause you could controll both sides but at the same time that ruined it. BACK TO THE PLOT! So you have two (I know they're better words but...) teams. Both against each other and in the end they team up to destroy the REAL threat. That isn't used as often.

FE 9 : Hm... Well, I like the fact they added a diffrent species and it made the plot line more intresting. The plot is war. That is fun. I like war! Well, but in the beginning, the plot was the Main charater wanted Revenge. That is also used to often but, we are in the 21(?)st centry. And it seems like everything is over used. But they're isn't much " weild this sword to destroy the big threat and save the world" even though you do need Ragnell to kill the Black Knight and Ashnard. I like it. It doesn't have much... well, it seem funner.

FE....I forgot what number Sacred stones was...But I am not gonna add it cause I never finish it cause I lost the game while in the middle of the game. ;_; (x2)

Edit to FE 11: Well, Bad people Country(ies) betrays the good people Contry(ies) and war brakes out. The leader of the Bad people country(ies) probably was gonna slaughter the people in the Bad people Contry(ies) soon if the Hero failed to kill him. So some points for that, but it still has the same plot basicly: Hero must kill the villain.

Point being, the plot line is used to often. Exaples:

Marth and the Falchion to Kill Meledus to save the continent of Archanea.
Ike and Ragnell to kill the Black Knight (even though he is and isn't the main villian), Ashnard, and Ahsera (sorry, I think I mispelled that) to save the world.
Link (even know this is a FE guild and a FE discussion) to use the Master Blade to kill Ganondorf to save Hyrule.
I would add some Kirby game plot lines where you need Galaxia. But I won't.

Um... I wanna said FE: -Again, I forgot what number) Sacred Stones but I cannot count it cause I never finished it.... And I hate to choose on this "choose the best plot line" so.... I don't wanna choose...
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:54 pm


Then the vote doesn't count... ._.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:14 pm


Best: I'm going to get some interesting looks here but I have to go with FE10. The main reason why I love this plot moreover than the others is the fact that they were focusing on two smaller wars in the beginning and expand on what happened after the war in FE9. I kind of understood why the characters act the way they do because of what became of their world. The other thing that I liked about 10's plot is that it expands on ideas that 9 had. Spoilers: For example the whole thing about Serenes Massacre being placed on Ashnard in 9 though found out in 10 that the Begnion Senate was the really cause of it. As well as the whole thing with Sephiran being the one is plotting to awaken the goddess even though he seemed like the kind of guy that you can trust that can't do anything wrong against you in 9 (though you are hinted about it at the end of 9 a bit). Also, I love that the main antagonist in this game was pretty subtle about what they were doing as well as being merciful to Ike, though willing to fight him. I like that about this antagonist compared to others in the series. Finally, the last reason why I like this plot is that it feels that the game was more dimension with the parts it came in as well as the seeing both sides of the story.

Worst: FE8, I think that this is pretty self explanatory.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:52 pm


Best: This one is really, really tough. We're only dealing with SINGLE games here, and not OVERALL plots, so I'd have to say that FE7 was the best, for obvious reasons as stated above. However, if we were looking at best SERIES plot, 9/10 ends up with the win. It's the first (and only) time where your main Lord isn't nobility, so the beginning of the game has a reason for fighting bandits, it was fresh. Sure the "Revenge" plotline is a bit overused, but that takes a backseat to the Elincia storyline. In 10, you get a whole new crew of characters that end up taking it to the old ones and vice versa, leaving you contemplating who to root for. SPOILER: Also, while defeating a god might seem a bit far-fetched, it's executed well...or at least the endgame is. Splitting up your characters into three armies was necessary, but annoying as hell.

Worst: FE1/11. For me, this game is "Defeat the red units." That's it. The rest is just confusing as hell. First of all, you never get a good look at a World Map. How are you supposed to know where anything even is? And the game just ends up playing out as a match of RISK, invade land, conquer it, conscript units to your side, wash, rinse, and repeat. Little to no plot development until pretty much the end also digs it deeper into this hole. FE8 might not have a lot going for it, but at least you can remember what characters you have and, more importantly, WHY you have them.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:00 pm


Ah. Why not... :/ Even though I feel like I am hurting the non-real feelings of Fire Emblem charaters. ^~^;; I am the only one, arn't I?

Best - FE 9 - It's fun when it comes to the story. It doesn't have all the...Fakeness I guess, when it comes to the storyline. The revenge plot is fun. The Elincia's revenge, and Ike's Revenge -which I still laugh at the fact Ike's revenge didn't really work at the end of FE 9- teaches kids to get revenge on people you don't like. And besides...The Black Knight really doesn't die~ >w<

Worst - FE 11 - I hate admitting this is the worst ever, and yet it is the one I play the most. I mean, it isn't just the names like Maji into Cord, Saji into Bord and some guy named Barst which is basicly the names being Card Board box, which is dumb in my opinon. But that is beside the point.
And for the basic reason of Electric Sparks. It is just repeating the invade, conquer, and have people join you, untill you finish the game. It was lazy, but hey, it was the remake of the First FE game, and the First isn't always the best. I think -like I said in another post- IS and Nintendo threw this out for the USA so they can make the sequal.

PS: Again, beside the point. When you massacre your own units and get those Face-less soldiers, I love the names of those too! Such as Rejek, Lucer, Uno, Duos, Traces, Quarto. xD
PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:33 pm


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I mean, it isn't just the names like Maji into Cord, Saji into Bord and some guy named Barst which is basicly the names being Card Board box, which is dumb in my opinon.


....*snort* I never noticed this.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:37 pm


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I mean, it isn't just the names like Maji into Cord, Saji into Bord and some guy named Barst which is basicly the names being Card Board box, which is dumb in my opinon.


....*snort* I never noticed this.

Should I take that as sarcasm? Or are you serious?
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