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 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:37 pm
So what's the best way to learn the third tone?
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:15 am
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:16 am
Just keep listening and repeating until you get it I guess. Or, learn to say it really exaggeratedly and then slowly tone it down.
Or, if you want a slightly complicated way:
To me, the 3rd Mandarin tone sounds like the 4th and 5th Cantonese tones, blurred into one to me, so you can learn them, and then apply it to Mandarin. I think a good point of this is that you sort of break the tone into two halves and learn one at a time.
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:19 am
Hmm...  Yeah, you're right. If you take the first half of the Cantonese 4th and the second half of 5th, thats essentialy it.
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:13 pm
The third tone is actually the only one I can do...except the first of course.
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:44 pm
I feel like I can do them well in isolation, but when actually speaking, I think I have trouble differentiating between the first and fourth tones.
Unless.. I'm just that good that I do it without realising xd
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:15 pm
You're just that good. xp
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:45 am
Is there a dialect of chinese that has more than 8 tones?
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:38 am
I'm pretty sure there are, Wikipedia says so anyway: Wikipedia Some dialects of Yue have intricate sets of tone compared to other Chinese dialects—with varieties having up to nine or ten tones.
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:16 am
I've heard that Teochew (sp?) has 11-12.
Some have even fewer also. I think theres a (dialect of?) Shanghainese that only has 2 or 3.
Too lazy to look up any of this.
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:32 pm
Wiki says Teochew has "eight tones and extensive tone sandhi."
And I think the Shanghai dialect has 2 tones. I've heard of it being compared to Japanese, something to do with stressing.
I read the example of Ame vs aME (candy and rain or something) in Japanese being interpreted as different things depending on stress.
Not too sure about this though.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:46 pm
I wonder why Japanese has no tones.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:31 am
I guess Japanese never incorporated tones from Chinese into its language properly because it never had tones before it made contact with China?
Same idea as to why the English words 'wok', 'chow mein' and 'chop suey' are pronounced tonelessly.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:42 am
忧郁的星期三
Does this phrase mean "Three weeks of depression"? Or "the third Sunday of depression"?
谢谢 in advance!
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:06 pm
No, it means "The Wednesday of Depression".
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