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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:07 pm
Charlie isn't a downer... he just doesn't do drugs.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:12 pm
Hayate-senpai Zent0s Hayate-senpai You can still control them though can't you. I mean sure they are unable to be improved by the distribution but I thought they didn't have a limit when it came to training. And I plan on being more active but I'm in the middle of watching the dub for soul eater, it isn't that bad compared to most anime dub but I still like the sub more. But anyway, I'm just kinda busy but I'll get very active. I mean I'm already one of the stronger genin I'd like to think right now. I could take out the genin of kiri. Also shuriken is VERY easy to rank. Yeah but I just thought it'd be nice to have moderate dex/wis/int and high strength/chakra as opposed to godly str/chakra and yeah I noticed that you're hella strong xD I think shuriken should have a different way to train, just because it's so unfair -__- like really, 6 shuriken? training 1 point in ranged weapon:shuriken is basically training 6 points in a melee weapon... kinda grossly unfair.. It's fair, a shuriken does 1-2 damage base. A kunai is 1-4, and don't get me started on these samehada swords. It would be 6 times if the damage was 6 times that of normal. But if your complaining that shurikens do more damage than your fists, that's COMMON sense. For one you have to pay for weapons in general, I mean it's obvious that a blade would be stronger than a fist when both are equal skill. If taijutsu did the same as weapons, there would be no weapons. Although YOU could very well grab a nodachi with that strength of yours and do some damage. Shuriken aren't unfair, the whole system is all set up to make all things pretty strong. ALL weapons have that skill thing too. 1-2 for each rank along with the taijutsu you do. Every skill point will grant you + 2 – 4 damage when using a ninjutsu. Throwing 6, I mean most of the weapons are that strong normally with one attack aswell. So anyway, yeah, you have nothing to complain about. But I didn't realize it was that much for genjutsu too, the damage increase in ninjutsu. It makes me want to go learn a genjutsu with my 10 or 11 genjutsu I have right now. xP That means I'll be doing 20-40 damage + whatever the regular damage of the thing is. So that's pretty strong. Damn, I pwn a lot more than I thought. yeah I see what you mean, but that argument doesn't really work considering that if I trained 1 point in a melee weapon, that wouldn't equal the same if I had trained that point into shuriken. By adding 1 point, you add 6-12 damage onto a shuriken attack, considering that you have enough shuriken to throw. But if I had added 1 point into melee weapons, I only get 1-2 damage. Doesn't seem particularly fair to me, considering shuriken are extremely expendable and easy to obtain.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:52 pm
There is a sword that does 4 - 18. That is stronger. 2x6 = 12>18 So what the hell are you talking about.
Another that is 4-16 So what are you talking about? There are plenty of weapons, I mean a regular sword obviously isn't the same as 6 shuriken, that's COMMON SENSe. And then there is the better swords, did you think a knife was suppposed to be equal to multiple shuriken? Just grab a sword like Zabuza and that's a one time cost.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:12 pm
Hayate-senpai There is a sword that does 4 - 18. That is stronger. 2x6 = 12>18 So what the hell are you talking about. Another that is 4-16 So what are you talking about? There are plenty of weapons, I mean a regular sword obviously isn't the same as 6 shuriken, that's COMMON SENSe. And then there is the better swords, did you think a knife was suppposed to be equal to multiple shuriken? Just grab a sword like Zabuza and that's a one time cost. errm, if you trained 6 points in ninja weapon melee it'd add 6-12, not 12-18. Or at least I think that's what you were trying to say. Also, the samehada no ken sword in the game system forum was supposed to be taken out because I think the hoshigaki's have the sole use of that item ninja but the point is, I think throwing 6 shuriken at once is a bit much. Too much damage. Even if you used the biggest sword(4-18dmg) and pumped 10 points into that skill, you would get 14-38 damage per strike. if you use shuriken(1-2+dex mod) and pumped 10 points into it's skill, you would get 11-22 + dex mod times SIX. that's 66-132 + dex mod. and that's per ATTACK TURN. at higher levels you can throw way more than that. did I do some of the math wrong? grossly unfair. in my opinion at least. Anybody besides hayate want to weigh in? because it's obvious what our differing opinions say.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:28 pm
Zent0s Hayate-senpai There is a sword that does 4 - 18. That is stronger. 2x6 = 12>18 So what the hell are you talking about. Another that is 4-16 So what are you talking about? There are plenty of weapons, I mean a regular sword obviously isn't the same as 6 shuriken, that's COMMON SENSe. And then there is the better swords, did you think a knife was suppposed to be equal to multiple shuriken? Just grab a sword like Zabuza and that's a one time cost. errm, if you trained 6 points in ninja weapon melee it'd add 6-12, not 12-18. Or at least I think that's what you were trying to say. Also, the samehada no ken sword in the game system forum was supposed to be taken out because I think the hoshigaki's have the sole use of that item ninja but the point is, I think throwing 6 shuriken at once is a bit much. Too much damage. Even if you used the biggest sword(4-18dmg) and pumped 10 points into that skill, you would get 14-38 damage per strike. if you use shuriken(1-2+dex mod) and pumped 10 points into it's skill, you would get 11-22 + dex mod times SIX. that's 66-132 + dex mod. and that's per ATTACK TURN. at higher levels you can throw way more than that. did I do some of the math wrong? grossly unfair. in my opinion at least. Anybody besides hayate want to weigh in? because it's obvious what our differing opinions say. Multiple successful rolls for above average damage is fair. Because if you miss half of them the damage is crap.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:38 pm
Zent0s Hayate-senpai There is a sword that does 4 - 18. That is stronger. 2x6 = 12>18 So what the hell are you talking about. Another that is 4-16 So what are you talking about? There are plenty of weapons, I mean a regular sword obviously isn't the same as 6 shuriken, that's COMMON SENSe. And then there is the better swords, did you think a knife was suppposed to be equal to multiple shuriken? Just grab a sword like Zabuza and that's a one time cost. errm, if you trained 6 points in ninja weapon melee it'd add 6-12, not 12-18. Or at least I think that's what you were trying to say. Also, the samehada no ken sword in the game system forum was supposed to be taken out because I think the hoshigaki's have the sole use of that item ninja but the point is, I think throwing 6 shuriken at once is a bit much. Too much damage. Even if you used the biggest sword(4-18dmg) and pumped 10 points into that skill, you would get 14-38 damage per strike. if you use shuriken(1-2+dex mod) and pumped 10 points into it's skill, you would get 11-22 + dex mod times SIX. that's 66-132 + dex mod. and that's per ATTACK TURN. at higher levels you can throw way more than that. did I do some of the math wrong? grossly unfair. in my opinion at least. Anybody besides hayate want to weigh in? because it's obvious what our differing opinions say. that is grossly alot of damage, hoewever, if your opponent dodges them....or you roll a 1....it doesnt matter how much damage they do they still miss and then you have to go against the other person....so my advice...si to not go against anyone with a high dodge bonus....otherwise, your ********.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:44 pm
ellreka that is grossly alot of damage, hoewever, if your opponent dodges them....or you roll a 1....it doesnt matter how much damage they do they still miss and then you have to go against the other person....so my advice...si to not go against anyone with a high dodge bonus....otherwise, your ******** class="clear"> So Hayate pmed me in a rage telling me to delete my posts, but the point he brought up was also squashed thoroughly. Here's my explanation: Assuming two seperate characters had the exact same stats in strength(character 1) and dex(character 2), then character 1's attack bonus melee would be the same as character 2's attack bonus ranged. Therefore, each shuriken has the same percentage to hit as one hit from the sword. The catch is, if the sword hit fails, then the shuriken have an added 5 chances to do damage. Now, here's where it gets really unfair. In the situation I described above ^ with 10 points into the ninja weapons skills for each character, even if HALF the shuriken hit for each melee strike hit, then the melee damage would be : 14-38 While 3 out of 6 shuriken hitting (which by the way, is kind of improbable, but let's say it happened.) then their damage would be 33-66+dex mod. almost guaranteed to have a higher damage than the melee strike. The possibility of all 6 striking would mean that in one turn, a ranged user vs a melee user just dealt quadruple the damage. Did that make sense? o__o
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:55 pm
Your mentally ill Zent0s, get over it.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:59 pm
Hayate-senpai Your mentally ill Zent0s, get over it. Don't worry bro, I doubt Qyp or anybody will change it. You'll have your perfectly imba genin for a long time.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:05 pm
Your realling annoying, just shut the hell up already. It's a stupid guild, you fricken care to much.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:14 pm
Hayate-senpai Your realling annoying, just shut the hell up already. It's a stupid guild, you fricken care to much. neutral I'm not the one who is resorting to swearing and insults. Am I mad as you question probably not.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:23 pm
Zent0s Reclaimer9213 I'm probably gonna quit this guild soon >.> I just don't have the time to be wasting on here anymore. can I have the Zee clan eek sweatdrop jk why not stay? if you're too busy with real life stuff then yeah take a huge hiatus, but you might as well not quit, maybe you'll come back eventually (: As of right now, I give you the title of Sub-owner of the zee clan. You may do with it as you wish for the time being. However, I withhold the right to change anything you do with it in the future. Also, I'd like you to send me a message with anything that you decide to create (jutsu, weapons, etc.) You don't haft to wait on me for approval, I just want to be notified about the change.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:27 pm
Reclaimer9213 Zent0s Reclaimer9213 I'm probably gonna quit this guild soon >.> I just don't have the time to be wasting on here anymore. can I have the Zee clan eek sweatdrop jk why not stay? if you're too busy with real life stuff then yeah take a huge hiatus, but you might as well not quit, maybe you'll come back eventually (: As of right now, I give you the title of Sub-owner of the zee clan. You may do with it as you wish for the time being. However, I withhold the right to change anything you do with it in the future. Also, I'd like you to send me a message with anything that you decide to create (jutsu, weapons, etc.) You don't haft to wait on me for approval, I just want to be notified about the change. Wait, I don't get it xD I'm "sub-owner" but I can't change anything in the future? xD just kidding I get it. Thanks dude! =D hope you have fun irl <3
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:31 pm
Zent0s Hayate-senpai Your realling annoying, just shut the hell up already. It's a stupid guild, you fricken care to much. neutral I'm not the one who is resorting to swearing and insults. Am I mad as you question probably not. No, it's because I cuss normally. But I usually hide that side of me. I have plenty of personalities to fake, I really don't know how I really acted at one time. I've changed my personality so much over the years and used different ways to act. Some people just normally cuss though. Like I'm not happy go lucky, well now I am but I kinda forced that personality onto myself. But yeah, I cuss normally so I didn't "resort" to anything, in reality I am only just typing out normally. I don't get at trivial things such as online things. Heck I have friends who outright insult me straight to my face pretty bad, I mean it goes both ways and it's mainly jokes but this stuff is nothing compared to that. Heck I get in straight fistfights and sometimes paintball guns and axes get involved, but in the end we hang out the next day. You might not think it, but I am extremily unemotional when it comes to arguements. Ohh and btw, those are seperate, the insults aren't what create the fights, well sometimes but mainly it's things such as people getting hit and all. So I don't know what your talking about when you say "resorting" As quoted by Aizen: "Verbal arguements are useless" Lol xP Anyway, like you said you're the most active person currently, your the one who is way more connected. Although I'd still be pretty pissed if I got kicked but if not something like this. Though you are kinda being annoying.
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:33 pm
ninja I never even implied that you might get kicked lol. If you got kicked I would disapprove, if you believe me or not. that'd be a dumb reason to kick. I was just pointing out a flaw(in my opinion) to the system. Not you x]
anyway, I hope we can be mature about this and just move on ^__^ no changes will come to the game system anyway rolleyes , I was just voicing my opinion mrgreen
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