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 Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:23 am
Lt. Brookman Tech Magos Sejanus I keep forgetting Apocalypse has the anything-goes force orginasation thing... But I guess that would mean you could field practically anything from the Guard list you wanted just by claiming it was from a different Guard army. Indeed, so it would seem. I am personally wondering if it is possible to field 2.500 pts. of Cadians alongside 500 pts. of Vostroyans and 500 pts. of Elysians, each force using their own rules and doctrines. Why not. It seems the list about has 5 doctrines, and apparently you can field an army of nothing but HQ so long as they "get along".
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:02 pm
Lt. Brookman Tech Magos Sejanus I keep forgetting Apocalypse has the anything-goes force orginasation thing... But I guess that would mean you could field practically anything from the Guard list you wanted just by claiming it was from a different Guard army. Indeed, so it would seem. I am personally wondering if it is possible to field 2.500 pts. of Cadians alongside 500 pts. of Vostroyans and 500 pts. of Elysians, each force using their own rules and doctrines. It seems perfectly allowed, but you should probably make sure to explain to your opponent that they have different rules.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:22 pm
Sgt_OBrien Lt. Brookman Tech Magos Sejanus I keep forgetting Apocalypse has the anything-goes force orginasation thing... But I guess that would mean you could field practically anything from the Guard list you wanted just by claiming it was from a different Guard army. Indeed, so it would seem. I am personally wondering if it is possible to field 2.500 pts. of Cadians alongside 500 pts. of Vostroyans and 500 pts. of Elysians, each force using their own rules and doctrines. It seems perfectly allowed, but you should probably make sure to explain to your opponent that they have different rules. Ah yes, the wonderful prospect of retards that don't understand everything you throw at them. Such a hearty challenge mad Though in the end it would be a rightful representation of how the Imperial Guard works, several different regiments united under a single banner for the duration of a campaign or crusade.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:09 pm
Something I've noticed of Apocolypse (with my limited experience) is that tanks are weighed faaar more heavily than normal, and while previously you would only have one or two tanks, you can now field tripple that without sweating. Also, Superheavies are worth their points, from what I've seen so far.
Does this make the Imperial Guard better equipped to fight larger battles than small skirmishes?
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:35 pm
Xenos Mortium Something I've noticed of Apocolypse (with my limited experience) is that tanks are weighed faaar more heavily than normal, and while previously you would only have one or two tanks, you can now field tripple that without sweating. Also, Superheavies are worth their points, from what I've seen so far. Does this make the Imperial Guard better equipped to fight larger battles than small skirmishes? Kind of looks that way. They have access to lots of vehicles and men. The Guard have always had weight in numbers, and in an Apoc match, that can really be shown if the player has the available units. x_x A geared character or two that could really hurt in smaller games isn't as much of a big deal when facing a line of Leman Russ'.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:47 am
People, you tend to forget that while the Imperial Guard can field large numbers of men, the s**t that gets thrown around in an Apocalypse game ensures that you're removing two dozen of them each turn due to Inferno!, 10" blast markers and Apocalyptic template barrages. Not to mention that Zerg rush of berserker squads. Yeep!
edit.
But yes, effing yes! The Imperial Guard is better at large point games than smaller games of 1.250 pts. and less. In order to succeed you need enough men to keep the guns chugging and / or several tanks to make the enemy divert his attention between your men and the superior tanks that you are fielding.
PROTIP: Field Leman Russ tanks a lot, as they are the best tank in the game, PERIOD.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:28 pm
personaly I think a mechanized force with heavy armor support could run s**t in Apoc but I havent gotten the chance to play yet.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:35 pm
I found that my 3 leman russes and my baneblade were GREAT in apocalypse matches.
Its usually a 6k on 6k fight, with more than one person on each side. Baneblade blast template is awesome in removing pesky berzerkers....
*poof* No more nasty khorne guys.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:38 pm
I'm going to ask the question here and in the modeling thread, mostly because I'm sure that the audience between the two is slightly varied.
I received a "free" Catachan army about a month back, and my severe limit in funds means that I can't buy many new models. So here's my question: Do you of the 40k community have any suggestions on how to convert them to be used WYSIWYG for flak armor so that I don't have to use the Jungle Fighter doctrine to cover myself?
((Note: I'm building an army for Adepticon with these, so time is of the essence))
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:41 pm
Just say that they're extra tough... ;0
Or have special fiber shirts. :B
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:06 am
If you feel you're up to it, try green stuff. Green stuff shouldn't be too expensive if you don't buy GW's putty. I also cannot imagine flak armor being too difficult to sculpt.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:25 am
Just field them as they are, GW never made a hassle of their jackets and bare chests before the release of the codex and now is not any different.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:11 am
and if what Mac says dosent work the simplist way to do it IMO would be just plain flak vests made out of green stuff that only covers the torso
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:03 pm
As I think someone already said in the one you asked int he modeling thread, just add some bits like a shoulderpad here and there, maybe some arm gaurds or whatnot. Look at orks, they got a 6+ for having one shoulderpad or leather pants.
Either way, as long as you make it clear to the other player that youre not using the jungal fighter doctrine thing, than there shouldnt be a problem.
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:43 pm
Well, Adepticon has been deemed a Wash, but I put up a trial list that I'm going to be running against my friends in the Army List review thread.
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