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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:30 pm
Asmondai King Kento Incorrerect, yourself. There is nothing preventing someone from using whichever rules they prefer for a made up chapter. Further Ive seen a few dark angels successor chapters based around infiltration and stealth.
Looking at your first sentence though, Im wondering if you misunderstood me and not the rules, then again it looks like youve got some typos. Mind trying to elaborate? That´s funny, cause when I asked about having special rules from Dark Angels codex and chapter trait from Space Marine codex put together, I got a "NO" anwser. SEE THIS LINK! Hence, no Chapter Traits for Dark Angels and successor chapters.
Hmmmm, you did not mean that Dark Angels dev-squads can be chosen as elite-choice and given tank hunter or inviltration rule? @.@ Not that funny, as thats correct. There arent chapter traits in that book, so no you dont get them if youre using the dark angels codex. I never said the dark angels codex, however, we're talking about a chapter trait in the Space marine codex. You can make successor chapters or chapters of later foundings using what you want as theyre your creations. I could make a dorn chapter using the dark angels rules if i wanted or the other way around.
Im talking about armies or certain geneseed lines that wouldve used infitrating devestators in my response to Nuclearwinter stating this as if it were new (which seemed more them just being overly enthusiastic). So my point was fluff based. But to be spiteful I could make some Angels Redundant using ultramarines rules.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:52 am
King Kento Not that funny, as thats correct. There arent chapter traits in that book, so no you dont get them if youre using the dark angels codex. I never said the dark angels codex, however, we're talking about a chapter trait in the Space marine codex. You can make successor chapters or chapters of later foundings using what you want as theyre your creations. I could make a dorn chapter using the dark angels rules if i wanted or the other way around.
Im talking about armies or certain geneseed lines that wouldve used infitrating devestators in my response to Nuclearwinter stating this as if it were new (which seemed more them just being overly enthusiastic). So my point was fluff based. But to be spiteful I could make some Angels Redundant using ultramarines rules. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..... surprised Feels like an total idiot now.Me sorry. ;.;
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:09 am
King Kento Asmondai King Kento Incorrerect, yourself. There is nothing preventing someone from using whichever rules they prefer for a made up chapter. Further Ive seen a few dark angels successor chapters based around infiltration and stealth.
Looking at your first sentence though, Im wondering if you misunderstood me and not the rules, then again it looks like youve got some typos. Mind trying to elaborate? That´s funny, cause when I asked about having special rules from Dark Angels codex and chapter trait from Space Marine codex put together, I got a "NO" anwser. SEE THIS LINK! Hence, no Chapter Traits for Dark Angels and successor chapters.
Hmmmm, you did not mean that Dark Angels dev-squads can be chosen as elite-choice and given tank hunter or inviltration rule? @.@ (which seemed more them just being overly enthusiastic). Yes it was, I don't use my marines too often cause I could never get a good plan going as to how to use them. Now I have somthing to build off of and make something work for it.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:21 pm
Nuclearwinter Yes it was, I don't use my marines too often cause I could never get a good plan going as to how to use them. Now I have somthing to build off of and make something work for it. I majorily don´t have any plans for winning the match before hand, I usually thing up one during the battle when I see what´s on the table and just go from a limb. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:15 am
Asmondai King Kento Not that funny, as thats correct. There arent chapter traits in that book, so no you dont get them if youre using the dark angels codex. I never said the dark angels codex, however, we're talking about a chapter trait in the Space marine codex. You can make successor chapters or chapters of later foundings using what you want as theyre your creations. I could make a dorn chapter using the dark angels rules if i wanted or the other way around.
Im talking about armies or certain geneseed lines that wouldve used infitrating devestators in my response to Nuclearwinter stating this as if it were new (which seemed more them just being overly enthusiastic). So my point was fluff based. But to be spiteful I could make some Angels Redundant using ultramarines rules. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..... surprised Feels like an total idiot now.Me sorry. ;.; Meh, it happens. But thats the beauty of reexplaining things.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:01 am
Asmondai Nuclearwinter Yes it was, I don't use my marines too often cause I could never get a good plan going as to how to use them. Now I have somthing to build off of and make something work for it. I majorily don´t have any plans for winning the match before hand, I usually thing up one during the battle when I see what´s on the table and just go from a limb. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose.you should at least know what the general strategy is going to be (like which troops are doing what) just winging it can work somthing, but it helps to come up with a plan.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:00 am
is it just unspokenly accepted that master chief is obviously a space marine?
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:35 am
OrionStark is it just unspokenly accepted that master chief is obviously a space marine? Don't open that can of e-diarrhoea around here again, nothing good will come of it.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:17 pm
Lt. Brookman OrionStark is it just unspokenly accepted that master chief is obviously a space marine? Don't open that can of e-diarrhoea around here again, nothing good will come of it. don't trash him yet, technicly he's right. Master Chief (or John, which is his actual name) is in every respect a space marine. He's just from a different storyline. Of couse that would go for EVERY marine in halo as well, John is just a supersoldier to boot. On another note however, brining up Halo in a Space Marine thread of the official 40k guild is a little off topic. I suppose they relate a LITTLE.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:32 pm
Nuclearwinter Lt. Brookman OrionStark is it just unspokenly accepted that master chief is obviously a space marine? Don't open that can of e-diarrhoea around here again, nothing good will come of it. don't trash him yet, technicly he's right. Master Chief (or John, which is his actual name) is in every respect a space marine. He's just from a different storyline. Of couse that would go for EVERY marine in halo as well, John is just a supersoldier to boot. On another note however, brining up Halo in a Space Marine thread of the official 40k guild is a little off topic. I suppose they relate a LITTLE. Youre correct in it being off topic. As for him being a space marine, as thats what its called (as far as I know) in their storyline, then yes he is. They are two different things though that share a name.
Just as there is an Empire in star wars, it is not the same as the empire of 40k.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:24 pm
King Kento Meh, it happens. But thats the beauty of reexplaining things. Indeed. ^.^Nuclearwinter you should at least know what the general strategy is going to be (like which troops are doing what) just winging it can work somthing, but it helps to come up with a plan. I do have the usuall "What to do with his unit" plan, but that´s most based on the battle-field role that I have spend points on. And since I do play dark angels, thinking up the "Plan" seems like a bothersome since you already have a general plan: This unit goes close combat, these supports, that´s it. sweatdrop King Kento Nuclearwinter Lt. Brookman OrionStark is it just unspokenly accepted that master chief is obviously a space marine? Don't open that can of e-diarrhoea around here again, nothing good will come of it. Master Chief (or John, which is his actual name) is in every respect a space marine. He's just from a different storyline. As for him being a space marine, as thats what its called (as far as I know) in their storyline, then yes he is. I agree, there is a very large difference between master chief and 40k. First of all, master chief is a trained marine-commando in a battle-armour, not a super-human brainwashed killing machine in a over-sized power armour. sweatdrop He´s morely a Imperial Guard Storm Trooper then a space marine, in 40k world´s sence that is. ^^"
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:50 am
Asmondai King Kento Meh, it happens. But thats the beauty of reexplaining things. Indeed. ^.^Nuclearwinter you should at least know what the general strategy is going to be (like which troops are doing what) just winging it can work somthing, but it helps to come up with a plan. I do have the usuall "What to do with his unit" plan, but that´s most based on the battle-field role that I have spend points on. And since I do play dark angels, thinking up the "Plan" seems like a bothersome since you already have a general plan: This unit goes close combat, these supports, that´s it. sweatdrop King Kento Nuclearwinter Lt. Brookman OrionStark is it just unspokenly accepted that master chief is obviously a space marine? Don't open that can of e-diarrhoea around here again, nothing good will come of it. Master Chief (or John, which is his actual name) is in every respect a space marine. He's just from a different storyline. As for him being a space marine, as thats what its called (as far as I know) in their storyline, then yes he is. I agree, there is a very large difference between master chief and 40k. First of all, master chief is a trained marine-commando in a battle-armour, not a super-human brainwashed killing machine in a over-sized power armour. sweatdrop He´s morely a Imperial Guard Storm Trooper then a space marine, in 40k world´s sence that is. ^^"not exactly, if you read the books (they're not that amazing in my opinion) you'd find that John IS in fact a superhuman. He was given an operation to become one and it's the only reason he can even wear his armor. I thought they made it more obvious in the games, but I guess not. As for the comparason between him and the Space marines of the 40k universe: They are both Marines for their respective armies. They both operate with space fleets. Therefore they are both space marines. In fact, very marine in Halo is a space marine.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:07 am
Nuclearwinter Asmondai King Kento Meh, it happens. But thats the beauty of reexplaining things. Indeed. ^.^Nuclearwinter you should at least know what the general strategy is going to be (like which troops are doing what) just winging it can work somthing, but it helps to come up with a plan. I do have the usuall "What to do with his unit" plan, but that´s most based on the battle-field role that I have spend points on. And since I do play dark angels, thinking up the "Plan" seems like a bothersome since you already have a general plan: This unit goes close combat, these supports, that´s it. sweatdrop King Kento Nuclearwinter Lt. Brookman Don't open that can of e-diarrhoea around here again, nothing good will come of it. Master Chief (or John, which is his actual name) is in every respect a space marine. He's just from a different storyline. As for him being a space marine, as thats what its called (as far as I know) in their storyline, then yes he is. I agree, there is a very large difference between master chief and 40k. First of all, master chief is a trained marine-commando in a battle-armour, not a super-human brainwashed killing machine in a over-sized power armour. sweatdrop He´s morely a Imperial Guard Storm Trooper then a space marine, in 40k world´s sence that is. ^^"not exactly, if you read the books (they're not that amazing in my opinion) you'd find that John IS in fact a superhuman. He was given an operation to become one and it's the only reason he can even wear his armor. I thought they made it more obvious in the games, but I guess not. As for the comparason between him and the Space marines of the 40k universe: They are both Marines for their respective armies. They both operate with space fleets. Therefore they are both space marines. In fact, very marine in Halo is a space marine.
Then so are the Imperial Guard, because they fly in space ships at some point also.
-Mykal
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:08 pm
A.R.G.U.S Mykal Nuclearwinter Asmondai King Kento Meh, it happens. But thats the beauty of reexplaining things. Indeed. ^.^Nuclearwinter you should at least know what the general strategy is going to be (like which troops are doing what) just winging it can work somthing, but it helps to come up with a plan. I do have the usuall "What to do with his unit" plan, but that´s most based on the battle-field role that I have spend points on. And since I do play dark angels, thinking up the "Plan" seems like a bothersome since you already have a general plan: This unit goes close combat, these supports, that´s it. sweatdrop King Kento Nuclearwinter Master Chief (or John, which is his actual name) is in every respect a space marine. He's just from a different storyline. As for him being a space marine, as thats what its called (as far as I know) in their storyline, then yes he is. I agree, there is a very large difference between master chief and 40k. First of all, master chief is a trained marine-commando in a battle-armour, not a super-human brainwashed killing machine in a over-sized power armour. sweatdrop He´s morely a Imperial Guard Storm Trooper then a space marine, in 40k world´s sence that is. ^^"not exactly, if you read the books (they're not that amazing in my opinion) you'd find that John IS in fact a superhuman. He was given an operation to become one and it's the only reason he can even wear his armor. I thought they made it more obvious in the games, but I guess not. As for the comparason between him and the Space marines of the 40k universe: They are both Marines for their respective armies. They both operate with space fleets. Therefore they are both space marines. In fact, very marine in Halo is a space marine.
Then so are the Imperial Guard, because they fly in space ships at some point also.
-Mykal in a sense yes, but they are organized and given ranks similar to an Army. Plus their main purpose is the defense of the imperium on the ground. Sometimes the fleets just have to ferry them around to reinfoirce positions. (kinda like how the Normandy invasion consisted of marines AND army.)
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:54 pm
Nuclearwinter A.R.G.U.S Mykal Nuclearwinter Asmondai King Kento Meh, it happens. But thats the beauty of reexplaining things. Indeed. ^.^Nuclearwinter you should at least know what the general strategy is going to be (like which troops are doing what) just winging it can work somthing, but it helps to come up with a plan. I do have the usuall "What to do with his unit" plan, but that´s most based on the battle-field role that I have spend points on. And since I do play dark angels, thinking up the "Plan" seems like a bothersome since you already have a general plan: This unit goes close combat, these supports, that´s it. sweatdrop King Kento As for him being a space marine, as thats what its called (as far as I know) in their storyline, then yes he is. I agree, there is a very large difference between master chief and 40k. First of all, master chief is a trained marine-commando in a battle-armour, not a super-human brainwashed killing machine in a over-sized power armour. sweatdrop He´s morely a Imperial Guard Storm Trooper then a space marine, in 40k world´s sence that is. ^^"not exactly, if you read the books (they're not that amazing in my opinion) you'd find that John IS in fact a superhuman. He was given an operation to become one and it's the only reason he can even wear his armor. I thought they made it more obvious in the games, but I guess not. As for the comparason between him and the Space marines of the 40k universe: They are both Marines for their respective armies. They both operate with space fleets. Therefore they are both space marines. In fact, very marine in Halo is a space marine.
Then so are the Imperial Guard, because they fly in space ships at some point also.
-Mykal in a sense yes, but they are organized and given ranks similar to an Army. Plus their main purpose is the defense of the imperium on the ground. Sometimes the fleets just have to ferry them around to reinfoirce positions. (kinda like how the Normandy invasion consisted of marines AND army.) The Halo marines arent composed like an amry? Further, as Ive seen (im not a halo player) their marines are not religious figures, nor divided into seperate chapters, or monastic, nor autonomous to their government, and so on. And even on their similarities, theres degrees. 40k marine armor is very different from halo armor, and 40k marine surgical upgrades are a bit more extreme than the halot ones. It is just the names, very little past that.
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