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SpiritArcanis

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:00 pm


It wasnt psy crystal or even astral crystal, a mind blade as i understand it is an ectoplasmic thought construct.

Organtrix is his mind blade, and it was what took the form of the rapier if i remember the fight correctly.

A mind blade only resembles crystal, and doesnt even necessarily have to resemble that from what I have read.

At any rate it can mimic all the necessary traits including flexibility needed to recreate a weapon with no moving parts.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:02 pm


The Thunder Tyrant
It depends on how badly Vin ******** anything up, and how people react to it. Reactions were progressively worse because they were reacting to progressively worse circumstances, decisions, etc.


*chuckles to self*

Oh we so adore giving Vin a hard time don't we?

And yet.... every year people come back.

Why?

Because even with all the Rage, we enjoy it for some god knows what reason.

I'd almost think that people have de-evolved over the years in their mentality and ability to let things go.

But who the hell am I to talk? It's been almost seven ********' years and I'm still kinda pissed when I think about how much Tactitus stomped my a** with his tainted demon creature thingy against my Cleric. Who to this day, I say I should have wipped the ******** floor with on the simple fact of being a GD cleric who was cleansing the hell out of him.

But he stomped me in the rping capacity...s**t he was just a better roleplayer at the time all around.

All I remember was that the rage that was going on in PM's was enough for me to feel like putting my foot through a monitor.

Actually....now that I think about it, I might have just done such a thing but with my fist instead of being a smart person and using a boot. Might explain those scars on the back of my knuckle.

Ah, the good ol days.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:04 pm


Tres was against an abnormally short spear for the first third of the fight. Then it pretty much transitioned to him being against a gladius. At least, a broad-bladed shortsword that was abnormally heavy.

Vintrict might have meant the rapier vs shortsword part.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:11 pm


Legion_of_Nazareth
It wasnt psy crystal or even astral crystal, a mind blade as i understand it is an ectoplasmic thought construct.

Organtrix is his mind blade, and it was what took the form of the rapier if i remember the fight correctly.

A mind blade only resembles crystal, and doesnt even necessarily have to resemble that from what I have read.

At any rate it can mimic all the necessary traits including flexibility needed to recreate a weapon with no moving parts.


So...basically he's a Soulknive.

A heavily modified one, but a soulknife all the ********.... well then disregard my comments about making a rapier. Went back and read some of the 3.5 rules on Mindblades and see what you mean.

Thanks for the info Legion.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:15 pm


People give Vintrict a hard time when he does s**t to warrant it. That's how the world works: you do something stupid, chances are someone is going to go "Hey, that was ******** stupid." That's how it is for everybody, we make mistakes and someone else tells us so. What's more important is how we react to it; we can either learn, or we can put our head in a hole like an ostrich.

I think for some people Vin has become a sort of easy target for blame, that's true, but on the flipside.. he's also spent the past two years or so basically shooting himself in the foot in more ways than I or anyone else has time to enumerate, so a lot of people are understandably wary of him. And weary, probably.

Last year, a majority of the usual participants didn't come back. Or, rather, they did, and when they had had enough they left in droves, requiring Vintrict to set the tournament on the backburner for several months until he could recruit again and run at more or less half-mast.

I don't think it has to do with letting anything go, so much as if people have a poor experience with somebody, it's going to shape their opinion. Especially if the person in question has the opportunity to change and doesn't.

Like I said, it basically boils down to how badly Vin ******** up, and how badly people respond to it..but that's true of any tournament, or any person. If you run an event, part of your success is going to come from your performance. If you run an event poorly, your support base is going to dwindle. That's just a fact. It'll shrink and shrink.. and if someone else pops up with a similar, yet better run event, then you might find yourself with NO support base.

I mean, yeah, a person can run an event however they want, but sometimes that includes running said event right into the ground.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:19 pm


King Bug
Tres was against an abnormally short spear for the first third of the fight. Then it pretty much transitioned to him being against a gladius. At least, a broad-bladed shortsword that was abnormally heavy.

Vintrict might have meant the rapier vs shortsword part.


*winces in pain*

Well...damn.

Yeah, if he was talking about that then yeah, he'd have a point. You couldn't get much worse than a rapier to go up against one of those.

The power you can put behind a gladius against the precision of a rapier? I mean yes, the rapier could win...as long as he made damn sure not to let you get off a straight slash or chop that he couldn't dodge or deflect with the minimum of force. He'd have to keep his temper completely in check and basically play with you until you over-extended and then went in for a stab.

But the minute he made a mistake, your looking at a shattered sword in your hand and a foot of steel in your chest.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:24 pm


The Thunder Tyrant


You have major points that make sense.

I bow to your greater wisdom of such things.

*tips hat to*

Id love to continue that train of thought, but you just... well you hit every major point that needed to be said in a way that ended the conversation abruptly.

I am actually somewhat speechless in awe.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:25 pm


count_zantara
Tresondros Ecstuffuan

I'd like to read it again too.

Because Vintrict Clearly made up some s**t that Tres didn't do and docked him points for it. Nevermind the fact that he docked me for an approved ability.

Vintrict I'm sure only skimmed the fight at best. That is the only thing that can explain why him and sokoya had pretty much completely different decisions.


Like it was said before, rapier work is.... highly ******** specialized. I think it was one of the female persuasion who told you as such.

And I don't see how psionic crystals would have the flexibility you would need to make a rapier. From what I can remember from floating through your fights, it's a pretty ******** ridged material. Especially if your using it as an armor in certain cases.

An Estoc yes, any sort of cutlass easily enough. Sabers, scimatars, shortswords, broadswords, katanas etc etc etc... all those could be done. I'm not sure exactly how your abiliies work (which is something I'm going to have to fix soon) but from what I can picture in my head, your blades are good for somewhat dull edges. Enough to cut but not cleanly. You would probably be more comfortable with say a hand-and-a-half sword or a nodachi.

More for breaking bones and smashing faces that methodical work just because making a sharp enough edge on a larger blade other than a dagger would be...difficult.

That is, if your using anything beyond a dagger.

Tres comes off as a character who likes to get in close, see some blood on his knuckles. And is arrogant enough to think he can always get away with that.

I'd like to see how much of the psionic crystals he'd have in his body at one time to create weapons... at least a mass & weight limit.


The properties of the Astral Crystal that Tres metabolizes can have an assortment of physical properties.

His arm for instance, bends like a regular arm and is composed of a morphic material that is flexible enough to perform like a normal arm.

In the fight against Deitric Tres made a flexible net.

However, Sigil Warden convinced me of why it was better for Tres to stick to knives and short swords.

Tres Ecstuffuan

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:29 pm


count_zantara
King Bug
Tres was against an abnormally short spear for the first third of the fight. Then it pretty much transitioned to him being against a gladius. At least, a broad-bladed shortsword that was abnormally heavy.

Vintrict might have meant the rapier vs shortsword part.


*winces in pain*

Well...damn.

Yeah, if he was talking about that then yeah, he'd have a point. You couldn't get much worse than a rapier to go up against one of those.

The power you can put behind a gladius against the precision of a rapier? I mean yes, the rapier could win...as long as he made damn sure not to let you get off a straight slash or chop that he couldn't dodge or deflect with the minimum of force. He'd have to keep his temper completely in check and basically play with you until you over-extended and then went in for a stab.

But the minute he made a mistake, your looking at a shattered sword in your hand and a foot of steel in your chest.


Yeah. It's a 10lbs sword that can chop through anything, so it had a pretty easy time with the rapier. Made even easier by the fact that it was a straight downwards chop on the rapier because it was stuck in the kid's chest.


I don't want to like... assign fault or pick at the fight. It was really good and Sieg is one of the best opponents you could hope to have in this thing. I know my side of the fight wasn't perfect, and he afforded me a couple of thing he didn't have to. That went both ways though I think, which built a better scene overall.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:29 pm


Or maybe it wasnt a mind blade...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:32 pm


Nazareth

Tres's Mind Blade has evolved along with him and doesn't need to be manifested before a fight. It simply exist as a part of his being.

KB

Dude our fight was awesome, I enjoyed it and I think you deserved the win.

My problem is that vintrict should apologize for his asinine judging and pretending like this tournament isn't just him telling us who he likes more.

My biggest issue with Vintrict as a person though is that, I have been roleplaying with him for years, I have been roleplaying around him for even longer.

I have never once seen him ever admit to being wrong. Not in any of our interactions. I damn sure have never seen him apologize for anything.

I don't think Vintrict is capable of admitting that he is wrong about anything for any reason.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:33 pm


Tresondros Ecstuffuan
I don't think Vintrict is capable of admitting that he is wrong about anything for any reason.


Vintrict isn't wrong. Math is wrong. cool

Knight Breaker


count_zantara

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:37 pm


Tresondros Ecstuffuan


The properties of the Astral Crystal that Tres metabolizes can have an assortment of physical properties.

His arm for instance, bends like a regular arm and is composed of a morphic material that is flexible enough to perform like a normal arm.

In the fight against Deitric Tres made a flexible net.

However, Sigil Warden convinced me of why it was better for Tres to stick to knives and short swords.


Saw the net....kinda made me pull up quick with a WTH.

I could probably go into a argument with you on how a crystal arm acting like a regular arm would be problematic based on the idea of your talking about the physical properties of CRYSTAL here and not flesh. At the very least, I personally would expect there to be a slight but noticeable difference in movement and speed between the actual arm and the crystalline one based on the simple fact of that crystals are made of a s**t ton of right angles and making it being able to bend and "curve" like normal flesh is completely asinine. You'd be grinding crystal against crystal all the damn time trying to make some arm movements, no matter how small you made the individual crystals.

But we're talking magic here, so you'd know best wouldn't you?

I always hated morphic materials.

Too easily to be abused, in my opinion. One minute it's soft as a babies bottom, the next second hard enough to block a HEAT round with no injuries. And then bam back to softness.

Not saying that example has anything to do with you.

Just using it as an example
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:39 pm


It's a crystal arm with polished crystal barings. Bam.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:40 pm


count_zantara
Tresondros Ecstuffuan


The properties of the Astral Crystal that Tres metabolizes can have an assortment of physical properties.

His arm for instance, bends like a regular arm and is composed of a morphic material that is flexible enough to perform like a normal arm.

In the fight against Deitric Tres made a flexible net.

However, Sigil Warden convinced me of why it was better for Tres to stick to knives and short swords.


Saw the net....kinda made me pull up quick with a WTH.

I could probably go into a argument with you on how a crystal arm acting like a regular arm would be problematic based on the idea of your talking about the physical properties of CRYSTAL here and not flesh. At the very least, I personally would expect there to be a slight but noticeable difference in movement and speed between the actual arm and the crystalline one based on the simple fact of that crystals are made of a s**t ton of right angles and making it being able to bend and "curve" like normal flesh is completely asinine. You'd be grinding crystal against crystal all the damn time trying to make some arm movements, no matter how small you made the individual crystals.

But we're talking magic here, so you'd know best wouldn't you?

I always hated morphic materials.

Too easily to be abused, in my opinion. One minute it's soft as a babies bottom, the next second hard enough to block a HEAT round with no injuries. And then bam back to softness.

Not saying that example has anything to do with you.

Just using it as an example


Crystal is what it looks like on a superficial level.

However its not crystal as we understand it in reality. Technically it is astral material held into our reality by psionic energy. The same stuff that Astral Constructs are made of. Tres's arm is usually really smooth however depending on his mood, it can become more jagged and crystalline.

but I'd like to hear more on your ideas about morphic materials.
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