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KirbytheChef

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:15 pm


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That's not what you said. You bashed Naruto for how slow the series goes. I just rewatched a bunch of early episodes. The format is a lot like Naruto Episodes. Just go rewatch the Buggy fight and try to tell me that it's radically different from the Neji Naruto fight. If you want to criticize how slowly a show moves, you're going to have to apply it to everything. Characters rocking is a matter of opinion. While I agree that the One Piece characters are just as interesting as the Naruto ones. So let's do your bare bones character summaries (like you did for Naruto) for One piece and see how it comes out


The first 30 Episodes of One Piece are crap.

Atleast it gets Better, unlike Naruto ^_^

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Yes, I'm exaggerating. So were you. You want to apply one standard to a series, you better be prepared to apply it to others. I'll admit I haven't seen all of OP, but this is just as much of an exaggeration based on the characters as you did for Naruto. I'm not saying you have to like Naruto or that you shouldn't like One Piece. All I'm saying is that if you critique a show using certain criteria, you ought to view others the same.


That's why. Go watch more of it. I've watched the first 70 episodes of Naruto, and all of the Manga, and the first 150 episodes of One Piece, with all of the Manga.

One Piece is better paced after the first 30 episodes. Why do you think I tell people to skip until the Luffy -Krieg Fight?

Naruto, for 70 episodes, haven't showed signs of getting better quality animation, or better paced =/
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:17 pm


WhiteJoker
The Pineapple
Yeah, because we all know you love younger men. 3nodding

Jakobo's older then me.... almost all of the male mods are older then me. sweatdrop

I have the lolicom, remember? xd
whee

I just like to think of you with anybody. Naked. Maybe in a shower.

The Pineapple


KirbytheChef

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:18 pm


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Pi day should be celebrated by all!


I know crying

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EDIT: Furthermore, on the pacing issue, it doesn't always need to go fast to get the point across. I mean, one of the best romanic comedy anime out there is Maison Ikkoku, where things move incredibly slowly for a reason. It isn't always a bad thing.


Slow paced for a REASON.

I loved Ikkoku. So yeah =P

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However, the drawing out that you were really referring to happens in most Shounen series. Get used to it because it won't go away.


Subpar Animation? HxH is actually animated quite well. Most other series have tolerable animation.

Cliche? Hikaru no Go? Death Note? I think not.

Indeed, most characters are cliche'd, but i dont hate naruto for it =P
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:24 pm


Anyway....

What i'm saying about Naruto in general, The manga is good, the Anime is mediocre, but it definately doesn't deserve the attention it gets.

There are much better Shounen out there.

KirbytheChef


Jive Ammunition
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:26 pm


Zelyhon
dot_com
Zelyhon
dot_com
scream Fine then! I summon Zero Bahamut, who will radiate his Fantard Blast on j00'!

Devine punishment! scream scream domokun
And that counter's Power Word Kill how?

Your defiance leaves me no choice, Zel...Ultimate punishment! scream
-throws pokeball- Inuyashachu! I choose you!

-Throws other pokeball- Penpenmon! I choose you!
::throws in a Super Magic Ultraball:: Go, Mulan!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:27 pm


Little Indigo
Zelyhon
dot_com
Zelyhon
dot_com
scream Fine then! I summon Zero Bahamut, who will radiate his Fantard Blast on j00'!

Devine punishment! scream scream domokun
And that counter's Power Word Kill how?

Your defiance leaves me no choice, Zel...Ultimate punishment! scream
-throws pokeball- Inuyashachu! I choose you!

-Throws other pokeball- Penpenmon! I choose you!
::throws in a Super Magic Ultraball:: Go, Mulan!


*pulls a team Rocket*

TO PROTECT THE WORLD FROM DEVASTATION!
TO UNITE THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION
TO DENOUCE THE EVILS OF TRUTH AND LOVE!
TO EXTEND OUR REACH TO STARS ABOVE!

*steals pokemon and runs*

KirbytheChef


Zelyhon
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:28 pm


KirbytheChef
Quote:
That's not what you said. You bashed Naruto for how slow the series goes. I just rewatched a bunch of early episodes. The format is a lot like Naruto Episodes. Just go rewatch the Buggy fight and try to tell me that it's radically different from the Neji Naruto fight. If you want to criticize how slowly a show moves, you're going to have to apply it to everything. Characters rocking is a matter of opinion. While I agree that the One Piece characters are just as interesting as the Naruto ones. So let's do your bare bones character summaries (like you did for Naruto) for One piece and see how it comes out


The first 30 Episodes of One Piece are crap.

Atleast it gets Better, unlike Naruto ^_^
Once again, you interject personal opinion into the argument when I've made it clear I really don't care what you like or what you don't. Explain, then, the pacing in the Drum Kingdom when they're recruiting Chopper.

KirbytheChef
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Yes, I'm exaggerating. So were you. You want to apply one standard to a series, you better be prepared to apply it to others. I'll admit I haven't seen all of OP, but this is just as much of an exaggeration based on the characters as you did for Naruto. I'm not saying you have to like Naruto or that you shouldn't like One Piece. All I'm saying is that if you critique a show using certain criteria, you ought to view others the same.


That's why. Go watch more of it. I've watched the first 70 episodes of Naruto, and all of the Manga, and the first 150 episodes of One Piece, with all of the Manga.

One Piece is better paced after the first 30 episodes. Why do you think I tell people to skip until the Luffy -Krieg Fight?

Naruto, for 70 episodes, haven't showed signs of getting better quality animation, or better paced =/
Yes, thank you for your suggestion. I'll get right on that, as I intended to anyways. rolleyes

I still don't see the justification, even in the 90s in Arabasta, for you to claim that One Piece has much better pacing. They spent a whole episode of Luffy eating, Smoker et al being in town, and bringing Ace into the town.

On the later post: I love Ikkoku too. That was just to mock your choice of using "slower" instead of "more drawn out," which is what you meant.

And by no means am I saying that Naruto has the best animation, so stop trying to making it seem like I am. Don't hate Naruto for Cliche's Characters? Care to review your first argument then? Furthermore, that post was referring to a series being drawn out, not cliched or poorly drawn.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:29 pm


The Pineapple
WhiteJoker
The Pineapple
Yeah, because we all know you love younger men. 3nodding

Jakobo's older then me.... almost all of the male mods are older then me. sweatdrop

I have the lolicom, remember? xd
whee

I just like to think of you with anybody. Naked. Maybe in a shower.
With chocolate syrup.

Jive Ammunition
Crew


KirbytheChef

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:31 pm


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I still don't see the justification, even in the 90s in Arabasta, for you to claim that One Piece has much better pacing. They spent a whole episode of Luffy eating, Smoker et al being in town, and bringing Ace into the town.


Filler Episodes != General Pacing.

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And by no means am I saying that Naruto has the best animation, so stop trying to making it seem like I am. Don't hate Naruto for Cliche's Characters? Care to review your first argument then? Furthermore, that post was referring to a series being drawn out, not cliched or poorly drawn.


Eh, I need to learn how to think before I type ^_^

Naruto isnt' that drawn out, Death Note is more drawn out, if anything o_o;

the Cliche'd characters was in response to someone saying how Naruto is Original.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:31 pm


Little Indigo
The Pineapple
WhiteJoker
The Pineapple
Yeah, because we all know you love younger men. 3nodding

Jakobo's older then me.... almost all of the male mods are older then me. sweatdrop

I have the lolicom, remember? xd
whee

I just like to think of you with anybody. Naked. Maybe in a shower.
With chocolate syrup.
xd heart

The Pineapple


Skizzors
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:31 pm


LOG TOYS. THEY'RE MAKING LOG TOYS. eek heart

it's log, it's log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood
it's log, it's log, it's better than bad, it's good
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:32 pm


KirbytheChef
Anyway....

What i'm saying about Naruto in general, The manga is good, the Anime is mediocre, but it definately doesn't deserve the attention it gets.

There are much better Shounen out there.
Then your argument about being drawn out is invalidated by your own statements as well, because the manga draws it out just as much.

Regardless, I like the series, but by no means are you required to. Similarly, I like One Piece well enough, but I believe that there are far better series out there as well.

Zelyhon
Crew


WhiteJoker
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:32 pm


The Pineapple
whee

I just like to think of you with anybody. Naked. Maybe in a shower.

Almost anybody. I do have some standards, even if they are really low standards.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:33 pm


By the way, Aki, what happened to your main account? confused

Jive Ammunition
Crew


[sarcastic innocence]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:34 pm


Man... reading this is making me laugh uncontrollably inside.

Espically the Blackjoker thing, and the chocolate syrup.
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