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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:41 am
Rosemary Zwick in Cape Town, South Africa says she saw this in her evening newspaper:
Overheard: She's not overweight, just chocolate enriched.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:54 am
UniKorn Tiger Rosemary Zwick in Cape Town, South Africa says she saw this in her evening newspaper: Overheard: She's not overweight, just chocolate enriched. Oh, thats a good one. blaugh 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:00 am
Glitter Girl UniKorn Tiger Rosemary Zwick in Cape Town, South Africa says she saw this in her evening newspaper: Overheard: She's not overweight, just chocolate enriched. Oh, thats a good one. blaugh 3nodding *doesn't get*
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:18 am
Nehru Glitter Girl UniKorn Tiger Rosemary Zwick in Cape Town, South Africa says she saw this in her evening newspaper: Overheard: She's not overweight, just chocolate enriched. Oh, thats a good one. blaugh 3nodding *doesn't get* She eats a lot of chocolate and is overweight beause of it.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:46 am
mini rant about to ensue... This thread really pisses me off...My son's father found out that I had considered getting an abortion early on in my pregnancy and had a fit. He was telling our friend how it was his child too and he should have some say and all sorts of other stuff like he'd be there for him. Just stupid stuff because I knew it was never about my son. I of course kept my son and he called once during his life. Its not like he doesn't know the phone number. He hasn't tried to contact us at all. After he finally really got the idea that I wasn't going to take him back he cut off all contact. Yes...he really cared and he really should have had a say in whether I had an abortion or not. I mean I couldn't do it personally, but it wasn't fair of him to try and force this child on me in an effort to get me to take him back. I think all of that made since. I dunno... *fumes* I hate men sometimes. stressed
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:57 am
Well I put my two cents in ....regarding the issue.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:11 am
I like your post... 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:45 am
I mean honestly if it is that important to that guy then he would ask those questions before he went that far ..... but it is the truth for most guys don't care till it is too late, or only to use it as a way to manipulate the woman. Like in your case glitter, and in mine also. Once the child was born, they didn't follow up, take responsibility, etc...
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:42 am
I just don't understand what our modern world (American one at least) has come to....well, actually I do, but it still dumbfounds me a bit. The sexual revolution of the 60's seems to have ultimately done more harm than good. gonk
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:02 am
Quote: I'm sorry, but thats kind of rude. Especially seeing as we have a recovering alcoholic here. Two actually. I drank because I was depressed. I drank because for that short period of time I didn't hurt so bad. I felt very lonely after my parents moved and D's father wasn't the biggest help. So, I started drinking more. It is a way to escape. Its wrong, but it happens. Sad to say, but the reason I quit my weekends of drinking till I was numb because I found out I was pregnant. I'm glad I had my son because it woke me up to what I was doing to myself. I don't know that just kind of hurt because you don't undrestand what its like to be that loser you're talking about. Its not right for her or any of us to do this, but you're not really helping either. Yeah... see, that's why i feel even tho I personally don't drink or do drugs... with exception of the occassional smirnoff twisted or a mike's hard lemonade... but, on the whole, I don't bother. Just was never interested. However, what I really can't stand is people who get all self righteous about the whole thing and take the attitude that they'd never do a thing like what you did cuz they are just so above all that. Man... that right there urks me. I mean... no maybe not... but I'm sure they aren't perfect and have other areas of their life that might be crap even if they don't let anyone on the outside see it. Noone's perfect. And, what right does anyone have to judge another person for finding a way to cope with their problems? Life is a twisted ride full of bullshit. If we see people caught up in this, we just need to help them. Not from the standpoint of making them right... but just for love of them to prevent them from doing themselves more hurt than they are in already.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:08 am
I agree with the "proving" you want the child, if you are male. I don't believe that men should be able to legally bar a woman from an abortion unless they begin to take monetary responsibility 100 percent for that child from the first doctor's appointment, or if you are married to the woman, though how many times does a wed woman with a supportive husband have a clandestine abortion?
but it's a moot point anyway isn't it because it is a rare instance indeed where a father is 100 percent supportive that a woman would abort. Usually it's done in abscence of honest support from the father.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:17 am
Graceangel Quote: I'm sorry, but thats kind of rude. Especially seeing as we have a recovering alcoholic here. Two actually. I drank because I was depressed. I drank because for that short period of time I didn't hurt so bad. I felt very lonely after my parents moved and D's father wasn't the biggest help. So, I started drinking more. It is a way to escape. Its wrong, but it happens. Sad to say, but the reason I quit my weekends of drinking till I was numb because I found out I was pregnant. I'm glad I had my son because it woke me up to what I was doing to myself. I don't know that just kind of hurt because you don't undrestand what its like to be that loser you're talking about. Its not right for her or any of us to do this, but you're not really helping either. Yeah... see, that's why i feel even tho I personally don't drink or do drugs... with exception of the occassional smirnoff twisted or a mike's hard lemonade... but, on the whole, I don't bother. Just was never interested. However, what I really can't stand is people who get all self righteous about the whole thing and take the attitude that they'd never do a thing like what you did cuz they are just so above all that. Man... that right there urks me. I mean... no maybe not... but I'm sure they aren't perfect and have other areas of their life that might be crap even if they don't let anyone on the outside see it. Noone's perfect. And, what right does anyone have to judge another person for finding a way to cope with their problems? Life is a twisted ride full of bullshit. If we see people caught up in this, we just need to help them. Not from the standpoint of making them right... but just for love of them to prevent them from doing themselves more hurt than they are in already. I have to admit that I'll have a drink my grandmother calls apple pie now and again, but I only drink a little and its cause it tastes like apple pie. xp I only have a cup once every 2 -3 weeks. I probably shouldn't, but I don't know if its so horrible. I do how ever believe this arguement has been played out. Both parties have come to a truce. So it can stop here so as not to cause more hurt feelings.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:30 am
Graceangel Yeah... see, that's why i feel even tho I personally don't drink or do drugs... with exception of the occassional smirnoff twisted or a mike's hard lemonade... but, on the whole, I don't bother. Just was never interested. However, what I really can't stand is people who get all self righteous about the whole thing and take the attitude that they'd never do a thing like what you did cuz they are just so above all that. Man... that right there urks me. I mean... no maybe not... but I'm sure they aren't perfect and have other areas of their life that might be crap even if they don't let anyone on the outside see it. Noone's perfect. And, what right does anyone have to judge another person for finding a way to cope with their problems? Life is a twisted ride full of bullshit. If we see people caught up in this, we just need to help them. Not from the standpoint of making them right... but just for love of them to prevent them from doing themselves more hurt than they are in already. I'm not talking about people who drink on occasion. And even if someone does have problems, they shouldn't deal with them by drinking. The problems will just come back once you're sober again. It may be a temporary "release" but the sorrow and depression will always come back. And yeah, I'm pretty much done, Glitter. So comment what y'all like about what I said, but I'm all for a truce.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:36 am
LadyElla64 Graceangel Yeah... see, that's why i feel even tho I personally don't drink or do drugs... with exception of the occassional smirnoff twisted or a mike's hard lemonade... but, on the whole, I don't bother. Just was never interested. However, what I really can't stand is people who get all self righteous about the whole thing and take the attitude that they'd never do a thing like what you did cuz they are just so above all that. Man... that right there urks me. I mean... no maybe not... but I'm sure they aren't perfect and have other areas of their life that might be crap even if they don't let anyone on the outside see it. Noone's perfect. And, what right does anyone have to judge another person for finding a way to cope with their problems? Life is a twisted ride full of bullshit. If we see people caught up in this, we just need to help them. Not from the standpoint of making them right... but just for love of them to prevent them from doing themselves more hurt than they are in already. I'm not talking about people who drink on occasion. And even if someone does have problems, they shouldn't deal with them by drinking. The problems will just come back once you're sober again. It may be a temporary "release" but the sorrow and depression will always come back. And yeah, I'm pretty much done, Glitter. So comment what y'all like about what I said, but I'm all for a truce. *huggles* I still lurve you. blaugh heart domokun
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:42 am
Glitter Girl LadyElla64 Graceangel Yeah... see, that's why i feel even tho I personally don't drink or do drugs... with exception of the occassional smirnoff twisted or a mike's hard lemonade... but, on the whole, I don't bother. Just was never interested. However, what I really can't stand is people who get all self righteous about the whole thing and take the attitude that they'd never do a thing like what you did cuz they are just so above all that. Man... that right there urks me. I mean... no maybe not... but I'm sure they aren't perfect and have other areas of their life that might be crap even if they don't let anyone on the outside see it. Noone's perfect. And, what right does anyone have to judge another person for finding a way to cope with their problems? Life is a twisted ride full of bullshit. If we see people caught up in this, we just need to help them. Not from the standpoint of making them right... but just for love of them to prevent them from doing themselves more hurt than they are in already. I'm not talking about people who drink on occasion. And even if someone does have problems, they shouldn't deal with them by drinking. The problems will just come back once you're sober again. It may be a temporary "release" but the sorrow and depression will always come back. And yeah, I'm pretty much done, Glitter. So comment what y'all like about what I said, but I'm all for a truce. *huggles* I still lurve you. blaugh heart domokun Yay! I'm not being shunned! heart whee
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