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 Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:13 pm
YAY!! xd
Didn't scare me sweets.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:41 pm
Oh gee.. the abortion subject...
I say let them decide wether they want to or not..
im not gonna uh.. say my personal beliefs for two reasons
1) Im gonna get yelled at T________T
2) I'll never be under a situation like that to personally decide.
I think sure there are certain cases but..
T_____T
nvm.. ima gonna get flamed.. sweatdrop
EDIT: Nie about what you said about once the baby being born being taken away. How would you feel if someone took your baby once it was born? Even if it was someone elses dad and you "hated" it because of its origin you would still love it. And not a day goes by that you wont think about it. Constantly wondering "How is he/she doing" "Are they treating him/her good?" You'd never be able to live with yourself if you saw some other family take the baby that YOU decided to give life to
OK yeah im done again. Cause i know once again ill be struck down by all the people who think just cause they are older have a more respected opinion in society. Thus causing flamage. But as i said in the post below, its all based on ethics...
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:47 pm
I think topics such as abortion and wether the war was nessicary depend on expierience to answer but there really isnt a right answer to it. People could protest all they want but it may not change. Those questions are supposed to get you to think.. Retorical maybe? But mostly its based upon ones own believes/religion/character. There are definantly situations when a retorical question may have people lean to one side more than others such as rape on the abortion subject. These questions are definantly hard to answer but the whole world will never agree on anything. As long as we're all stuck on this rock called Earth everyone will hate eachother for what they believe in. Sad but true.
(Ok dont hate me because i just thought of the previous statement. There are probably some flaws in it i know but just look at it on its perspective and try to see what im getting at.. Yeah im hard to understantd..)
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:02 pm
Carina has a point... it's a single person's decision... BUT...
1.- Murder is murder... here or in China... and a month baby IS a living creature that feels and has conscience...
2.- I said about the rape case, cuz it's the most controversial... but... I still think it's murder.
3.- U have a point in the adoption part... but... if U can't take care of the baby... it's your only choice... besides adoption centers make a good investigation about the parents and they keep visiting to see the quality of life they R giving to the adopted child.
4.- She's having a consecuence (sp?) of her own actions, which aren't evil or wrong... they were just actions that she took and now she has to face consecuences(sp? again)
In other things... don't worry Carina... U won't be flamed... not at least by one of our members... we have our own brain and that means different way to see things... we R only trying to help our friend to aviod a bed situation that she will be scarred all of her life...
And... mebbe... if she doesn't have that much money... she might be in danger going to some "doctor" to make her abort... she might DIE!
Think of this... she might be lucky and nothing happens to her... but... then again... she could die... easy as that... just for trying to avoid a responsability.
I've known thousands of girls that go to school, work and tend their babies without any help... and... she might find in the future a REAL MAN that will help her and REALLY LOVE HER... and her baby... 3nodding
Man... this was long... eheheh... this ends here... sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:16 pm
.~Carina_Fioraia~. I think topics such as abortion and wether the war was nessicary depend on expierience to answer but there really isnt a right answer to it. People could protest all they want but it may not change. Those questions are supposed to get you to think.. Retorical maybe? But mostly its based upon ones own believes/religion/character. There are definantly situations when a retorical question may have people lean to one side more than others such as rape on the abortion subject. These questions are definantly hard to answer but the whole world will never agree on anything. As long as we're all stuck on this rock called Earth everyone will hate eachother for what they believe in. Sad but true.
(Ok dont hate me because i just thought of the previous statement. There are probably some flaws in it i know but just look at it on its perspective and try to see what im getting at.. Yeah im hard to understantd..) I agree with you completely on that. On adoption: People can always request to get a family that will let you visit the child. If putting it up for adoption is the answer, I'd prefer you to check out the agencies and stuff before you just let it go- 'cause it might end up having a bad life :\ 'Course, I don't know much about it, since I haven't even had sex yet {I'm a good teenager! XD! } but I did read about it 3nodding {I find pregnancy topics and stuff very interesting- 'cause I'd love to be a mom one day whee }
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:07 am
Oh, heavy subject ;-;
I think that every woman should be allowed to decide herself. It's her body and it IS her that's going to be responsible of the child whatever she's going to do with it.
Still, I don't think I'd be able to go through with an abort. I would feel like a murderer... ;-;
Condoms! Condoms! Condoms! *chants*
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:10 am
all this really helps, In canada though they aren't nearly as many people adopting and sometimes you have to keep the child for a few months before you get a family for them. It's hard.On a positive note, the test i took last night came up negative but i still have an appointment for thrusday. I'm still constantly sick and just plain tired. I'm not sleeping anymore. I get on average 3-4 hours of sleep versus the 7-8 hours i was getting a little over a week ago so i'm exhausted all the time.
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:16 am
Why is everybody sick? crying
*huggles* I support any choice you make... It's your body.
I'd rather never been born then living in a family that'd be happier without me.
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:20 am
mattlo Why is everybody sick? crying *huggles* I support any choice you make... It's your body. I'd rather never been born then living in a family that'd be happier without me. exaclty, plus with me in college i would have to drop out even during prenancy because working with children and studying and being pregnant wouldn't work, it just couldn't. Plus i have no money to take care of a child and neither does Ken. and i know everyone doesn't like him because of the past but he is being totally amazing. He wouldn't let me do the test until he was on the phone with me. We talked and we worked some s**t out. He's been nothing but supportive in the whole situation
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:32 am
LittleAngel13 mattlo Why is everybody sick? crying *huggles* I support any choice you make... It's your body. I'd rather never been born then living in a family that'd be happier without me. exaclty, plus with me in college i would have to drop out even during prenancy because working with children and studying and being pregnant wouldn't work, it just couldn't. Plus i have no money to take care of a child and neither does Ken. and i know everyone doesn't like him because of the past but he is being totally amazing. He wouldn't let me do the test until he was on the phone with me. We talked and we worked some s**t out. He's been nothing but supportive in the whole situation keep us updated with the doc and all!
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:00 am
Ok... all of U that say... "it's her body"... yeah... it's her body... but... the baby isn't her body... it's another body, another life... then that means that if your mom thinks she can't take good care of U she can kill U any time? I don't think so... just think about that... U know...
I don't like the adoption idea... but that's better than having to go through life with a murder in your consience... and as I said... she could die of a malpraxis (bad medical procedure)... 3nodding
Although... if she's responsible enough... she can have the baby, she won't be able to live as usual... but she can live... and could the baby... well... that's if there's a baby...
Time to go to work.... Ciao! *poofs* ninja
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:31 am
I agree with Kai as is known. And "Carina" .. I'd rather give my baby away than abort it.. giving my baby a better life is better than my baby never knowing life.
But this is not a topic for our guild. We can all pm Angel about it with support for her or for her choices and what not.. but I don't want the guild to become an angry place where people clash over abortion. So I am asking everyone to stop. If you have an opinion that you would like to share with Angel, you can pm her. She wants feed back and input.
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:44 am
Also as a mom with two babies... this is not a topic I really want to think about anymore... it's making my already very emotional mind worse. crying
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:07 am
Yeah, let's change subject.
heart I want gooold gonk
*Starts to hum* If I were a rich man.. didiitiitiididiileddoo...
It's from the musical Fiddler on the roof, I think. I've only heard that one song from it.
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:57 am
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