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 Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:31 pm
iAkura-kun Okay... Akura has questions... - How many human puppets can I have? Because it says I can use [ insert number here ] per rank. But is that number the same for the number I can own? Quote: Sōen: Hitomi Gokū (Puppet Performance: Skillful Achievement with a Human Body) A puppet performance technique where chakra threads are attached to various spots on a person's body; the head, torso, both arms, and both legs. The person being manipulated gains the ability to not only use their own techniques, but the skills of the puppeteer as well. Okay... So I have to wait till I get to B rank to be able to make Kay jump around, fly and smash a few things... I can live with that....[ Not >.<; ] - Okay, so I can make the person that is being controlled use any of my jutsu and their own? - Can I control other people, against their will? [ Ex. I use the strings in the chunin exams to force someone to put a kunai to their neck. ] - Can I use chakra strings to stop, and control, incoming proyectiles, clones, and such things that have a physical mass and allow movement? [ Kunai, Shuriken, a Katana in my enemy's hand, enemy clones, other people's puppets ] - If I fight a Demon Host and successfully kill that person and turn their body into a puppet. Does the puppet keep the hosts traits? [ Ex. If I kill David, which we all know is never gonna happen, and turn him into a puppet, can the puppet use sand? If I kill the Nibi host can it use it's hellish fire and resurrect the dead? - Last but not least. If I kill an Uchiha clan member that knows Amaterasu and Susanoo, does the puppet keep those two techniques?
All of that... And who is in charge of the puppet thread? [ I think I've asked this before... but I don't remember...]
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:59 pm
As of now, bb3000ae and Panthers7 are the Puppet moderators.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:31 pm
is the max number of Clones at Chuunin 6?
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:43 pm
iAkura-kun iAkura-kun Okay... Akura has questions... - How many human puppets can I have? Because it says I can use [ insert number here ] per rank. But is that number the same for the number I can own? Quote: Sōen: Hitomi Gokū (Puppet Performance: Skillful Achievement with a Human Body) A puppet performance technique where chakra threads are attached to various spots on a person's body; the head, torso, both arms, and both legs. The person being manipulated gains the ability to not only use their own techniques, but the skills of the puppeteer as well. Okay... So I have to wait till I get to B rank to be able to make Kay jump around, fly and smash a few things... I can live with that....[ Not >.<; ] - Okay, so I can make the person that is being controlled use any of my jutsu and their own? - Can I control other people, against their will? [ Ex. I use the strings in the chunin exams to force someone to put a kunai to their neck. ] - Can I use chakra strings to stop, and control, incoming proyectiles, clones, and such things that have a physical mass and allow movement? [ Kunai, Shuriken, a Katana in my enemy's hand, enemy clones, other people's puppets ] - If I fight a Demon Host and successfully kill that person and turn their body into a puppet. Does the puppet keep the hosts traits? [ Ex. If I kill David, which we all know is never gonna happen, and turn him into a puppet, can the puppet use sand? If I kill the Nibi host can it use it's hellish fire and resurrect the dead? - Last but not least. If I kill an Uchiha clan member that knows Amaterasu and Susanoo, does the puppet keep those two techniques? All of that... And who is in charge of the puppet thread? [ I think I've asked this before... but I don't remember...] 1. You can own as many Human Puppets as you want, but the amount you can control is limited. 2. The Performance of Human Body jutsu was originally an A Rank Jutsu, you rather wait til that? It requires a large amount of skill to control a real person. Even Chiyo had to use an entire hand to control Sakura, when she could control 5 puppets with a single hand. 3. The person being controlled can only use their jutsu. 4. No you can not control people against their will, you would need the rewire jutsu to do it against their will. However binding them with wires and forcing them that way is allowed if they can't break free of it that is. 5. I don't know about stopping projectiles but you could control kunais and such with puppet strings. But I don't think you could put strings on in mid air and control them then. They would have to be not moving. 6. If you create a human puppets from a Demon Host, yes they will keeps their traits 7. Yes they would keep those jutsu
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:12 pm
Rival Tai is the max number of Clones at Chuunin 6? Clones, as in how many you can make? A person can only make 3 per post, with each clone costing the same as the base jutsu cost. For instance, if someone used Mizu Bunshin, an academy level technique, to make three clones, it would cost six chakra points. As for how many you can have in total, however, the limit for how many clones a single person can have per fight has usually been ten.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:20 pm
Gregar828 Rival Tai is the max number of Clones at Chuunin 6? Clones, as in how many you can make? A person can only make 3 per post, with each clone costing the same as the base jutsu cost. For instance, if someone used Mizu Bunshin, an academy level technique, to make three clones, it would cost six chakra points. As for how many you can have in total, however, the limit for how many clones a single person can have per fight has usually been ten. Sweet thanks. one other thing, if you have Combo user; can you make six per turn?
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:20 pm
bb3000ae iAkura-kun iAkura-kun Okay... Akura has questions... - How many human puppets can I have? Because it says I can use [ insert number here ] per rank. But is that number the same for the number I can own? Quote: Sōen: Hitomi Gokū (Puppet Performance: Skillful Achievement with a Human Body) A puppet performance technique where chakra threads are attached to various spots on a person's body; the head, torso, both arms, and both legs. The person being manipulated gains the ability to not only use their own techniques, but the skills of the puppeteer as well. Okay... So I have to wait till I get to B rank to be able to make Kay jump around, fly and smash a few things... I can live with that....[ Not >.<; ] - Okay, so I can make the person that is being controlled use any of my jutsu and their own? - Can I control other people, against their will? [ Ex. I use the strings in the chunin exams to force someone to put a kunai to their neck. ] - Can I use chakra strings to stop, and control, incoming proyectiles, clones, and such things that have a physical mass and allow movement? [ Kunai, Shuriken, a Katana in my enemy's hand, enemy clones, other people's puppets ] - If I fight a Demon Host and successfully kill that person and turn their body into a puppet. Does the puppet keep the hosts traits? [ Ex. If I kill David, which we all know is never gonna happen, and turn him into a puppet, can the puppet use sand? If I kill the Nibi host can it use it's hellish fire and resurrect the dead? - Last but not least. If I kill an Uchiha clan member that knows Amaterasu and Susanoo, does the puppet keep those two techniques? All of that... And who is in charge of the puppet thread? [ I think I've asked this before... but I don't remember...] 1. You can own as many Human Puppets as you want, but the amount you can control is limited. 2. The Performance of Human Body jutsu was originally an A Rank Jutsu, you rather wait til that? It requires a large amount of skill to control a real person. Even Chiyo had to use an entire hand to control Sakura, when she could control 5 puppets with a single hand. 3. The person being controlled can only use their jutsu. 4. No you can not control people against their will, you would need the rewire jutsu to do it against their will. However binding them with wires and forcing them that way is allowed if they can't break free of it that is. 5. I don't know about stopping projectiles but you could control kunais and such with puppet strings. But I don't think you could put strings on in mid air and control them then. They would have to be not moving. 6. If you create a human puppets from a Demon Host, yes they will keeps their traits 7. Yes they would keep those jutsu 6) No, they wouldn't. If you wanted a puppet with demon traits, you would have to make a puppet of the demon itself (no, that isn't possible.)
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:26 pm
Gregar828 bb3000ae iAkura-kun iAkura-kun Okay... Akura has questions... - How many human puppets can I have? Because it says I can use [ insert number here ] per rank. But is that number the same for the number I can own? Quote: Sōen: Hitomi Gokū (Puppet Performance: Skillful Achievement with a Human Body) A puppet performance technique where chakra threads are attached to various spots on a person's body; the head, torso, both arms, and both legs. The person being manipulated gains the ability to not only use their own techniques, but the skills of the puppeteer as well. Okay... So I have to wait till I get to B rank to be able to make Kay jump around, fly and smash a few things... I can live with that....[ Not >.<; ] - Okay, so I can make the person that is being controlled use any of my jutsu and their own? - Can I control other people, against their will? [ Ex. I use the strings in the chunin exams to force someone to put a kunai to their neck. ] - Can I use chakra strings to stop, and control, incoming proyectiles, clones, and such things that have a physical mass and allow movement? [ Kunai, Shuriken, a Katana in my enemy's hand, enemy clones, other people's puppets ] - If I fight a Demon Host and successfully kill that person and turn their body into a puppet. Does the puppet keep the hosts traits? [ Ex. If I kill David, which we all know is never gonna happen, and turn him into a puppet, can the puppet use sand? If I kill the Nibi host can it use it's hellish fire and resurrect the dead? - Last but not least. If I kill an Uchiha clan member that knows Amaterasu and Susanoo, does the puppet keep those two techniques? All of that... And who is in charge of the puppet thread? [ I think I've asked this before... but I don't remember...] 1. You can own as many Human Puppets as you want, but the amount you can control is limited. 2. The Performance of Human Body jutsu was originally an A Rank Jutsu, you rather wait til that? It requires a large amount of skill to control a real person. Even Chiyo had to use an entire hand to control Sakura, when she could control 5 puppets with a single hand. 3. The person being controlled can only use their jutsu. 4. No you can not control people against their will, you would need the rewire jutsu to do it against their will. However binding them with wires and forcing them that way is allowed if they can't break free of it that is. 5. I don't know about stopping projectiles but you could control kunais and such with puppet strings. But I don't think you could put strings on in mid air and control them then. They would have to be not moving. 6. If you create a human puppets from a Demon Host, yes they will keeps their traits 7. Yes they would keep those jutsu 6) No, they wouldn't. If you wanted a puppet with demon traits, you would have to make a puppet of the demon itself (no, that isn't possible.) Im sorry Greg they would, they wouldn't have the actual demon but the host would retain traits of it. Unless you can point to me otherwise that says they wouldn't. Because since demon hosts can't have bloodlines or clans, then they wouldn't have anything but the demon. So denying them the demon powers would make the puppet pretty much usless.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:30 pm
bb3000ae Gregar828 bb3000ae iAkura-kun iAkura-kun Okay... Akura has questions... - How many human puppets can I have? Because it says I can use [ insert number here ] per rank. But is that number the same for the number I can own? Quote: Sōen: Hitomi Gokū (Puppet Performance: Skillful Achievement with a Human Body) A puppet performance technique where chakra threads are attached to various spots on a person's body; the head, torso, both arms, and both legs. The person being manipulated gains the ability to not only use their own techniques, but the skills of the puppeteer as well. Okay... So I have to wait till I get to B rank to be able to make Kay jump around, fly and smash a few things... I can live with that....[ Not >.<; ] - Okay, so I can make the person that is being controlled use any of my jutsu and their own? - Can I control other people, against their will? [ Ex. I use the strings in the chunin exams to force someone to put a kunai to their neck. ] - Can I use chakra strings to stop, and control, incoming proyectiles, clones, and such things that have a physical mass and allow movement? [ Kunai, Shuriken, a Katana in my enemy's hand, enemy clones, other people's puppets ] - If I fight a Demon Host and successfully kill that person and turn their body into a puppet. Does the puppet keep the hosts traits? [ Ex. If I kill David, which we all know is never gonna happen, and turn him into a puppet, can the puppet use sand? If I kill the Nibi host can it use it's hellish fire and resurrect the dead? - Last but not least. If I kill an Uchiha clan member that knows Amaterasu and Susanoo, does the puppet keep those two techniques? All of that... And who is in charge of the puppet thread? [ I think I've asked this before... but I don't remember...] 1. You can own as many Human Puppets as you want, but the amount you can control is limited. 2. The Performance of Human Body jutsu was originally an A Rank Jutsu, you rather wait til that? It requires a large amount of skill to control a real person. Even Chiyo had to use an entire hand to control Sakura, when she could control 5 puppets with a single hand. 3. The person being controlled can only use their jutsu. 4. No you can not control people against their will, you would need the rewire jutsu to do it against their will. However binding them with wires and forcing them that way is allowed if they can't break free of it that is. 5. I don't know about stopping projectiles but you could control kunais and such with puppet strings. But I don't think you could put strings on in mid air and control them then. They would have to be not moving. 6. If you create a human puppets from a Demon Host, yes they will keeps their traits 7. Yes they would keep those jutsu 6) No, they wouldn't. If you wanted a puppet with demon traits, you would have to make a puppet of the demon itself (no, that isn't possible.) Im sorry Greg they would, they wouldn't have the actual demon but the host would retain traits of it. Unless you can point to me otherwise that says they wouldn't. Because since demon hosts can't have bloodlines or clans, then they wouldn't have anything but the demon. So denying them the demon powers would make the puppet pretty much usless. It would make the puppet a human puppet. I think thats already pretty freakin useful in itself. The demon powers are not part of the jinchuuriki, the powers are borrowed from the demon itself. A bloodline is a natural part of a person, while a demon is something that was forcibly implanted inside the person, and is NOT a part of who they are, and therefore, would not grant the puppet demon abilities.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:34 pm
Gregar828 It would make the puppet a human puppet. I think thats already pretty freakin useful in itself. The demon powers are not part of the jinchuuriki, the powers are borrowed from the demon itself. A bloodline is a natural part of a person, while a demon is something that was forcibly implanted inside the person, and is NOT a part of who they are, and therefore, would not grant the puppet demon abilities. Then I guess I missed the part where Gaara lost his demon but was still able to manipulate Sand. And don't even start of the speech of "we are not naruto", because though we are not exactly naruto, we are in their universe so basic rules apply. Because people are fused with demons so tight that removing causes death, they would retain traits of the demon. So because of that if a Human Puppet was created from it, it would retain powers from it.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:37 pm
bb3000ae Gregar828 It would make the puppet a human puppet. I think thats already pretty freakin useful in itself. The demon powers are not part of the jinchuuriki, the powers are borrowed from the demon itself. A bloodline is a natural part of a person, while a demon is something that was forcibly implanted inside the person, and is NOT a part of who they are, and therefore, would not grant the puppet demon abilities. Then I guess I missed the part where Gaara lost his demon but was still able to manipulate Sand. And don't even start of the speech of "we are not naruto", because though we are not exactly naruto, we are in their universe so basic rules apply. Because people are fused with demons so tight that removing causes death, they would retain traits of the demon. So because of that if a Human Puppet was created from it, it would retain powers from it. You don't NEED the Shukaku to manipulate sand, you know, even in the show/manga. It just makes it a heck of a lot easier. And I take my evidence from the episode with the guy who copied gaara's sand burial technique when fighting kakashi (he even stated "that's Gaara's jutsu!")
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:45 pm
Gregar828 bb3000ae Gregar828 It would make the puppet a human puppet. I think thats already pretty freakin useful in itself. The demon powers are not part of the jinchuuriki, the powers are borrowed from the demon itself. A bloodline is a natural part of a person, while a demon is something that was forcibly implanted inside the person, and is NOT a part of who they are, and therefore, would not grant the puppet demon abilities. Then I guess I missed the part where Gaara lost his demon but was still able to manipulate Sand. And don't even start of the speech of "we are not naruto", because though we are not exactly naruto, we are in their universe so basic rules apply. Because people are fused with demons so tight that removing causes death, they would retain traits of the demon. So because of that if a Human Puppet was created from it, it would retain powers from it. You don't NEED the Shukaku to manipulate sand, you know, even in the show/manga. It just makes it a heck of a lot easier. And I take my evidence from the episode with the guy who copied gaara's sand burial technique when fighting kakashi (he even stated "that's Gaara's jutsu!") That wasn't Sand though... He used the Assimilate All Creation Jutsu to copy jutsu of powerful ninja, by replicating them with Rock Powder. So in the Naruto Universe yes you need the Shukaka to control Sand. That is why the Third Kazekage had to use Iron Sand because he could not use real sand.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:05 pm
I don't believe that he used Iron Sand because he couldn't use regular sand, he used Iron Sand so that Masashi Kishimoto could make it look like the third kazekage's moves were somewhat original.
Bottom Line: A demon host puppet cannot use demon techniques. No chakra cloak, no demon jutsu, none of that.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:15 pm
Gregar828 I don't believe that he used Iron Sand because he couldn't use regular sand, he used Iron Sand so that Masashi Kishimoto could make it look like the third kazekage's moves were somewhat original. Bottom Line: A demon host puppet cannot use demon techniques. No chakra cloak, no demon jutsu, none of that. Bottom Line: Nothing says they can't, and logic says they can. But I will ask Zane to be sure, even though I created the current puppet system so my word is pretty much right.
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