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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:38 pm
Read up about the history of everything west of the Mississippi and tell me how unimperial we are. Does "Manifest Destiny" ring a bell? What we did to the native populations of the Great Plains does not deserve appreciation.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:54 pm
And if you just want to go to the early history of the US, look at the Cherokee. They won a Supreme Court case and we're still forced to move off their land to a desolate Oklahoma Territory (Indian Territory as we designated it). The forced migration is called the Trail of Tears if I believe. That should let you know how we "helped" them during the relocation. And our president Andrew Jackson was the one who refused to enforce the Court's decision.
We have never been what you would call a "good" nation. There are many things about American history that we should look down upon. I'm not saying that everything we have done was bad, but we definitely aren't ultimate good that we think we are.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:18 pm
Are you deaf? I haven't been disagreeing with you, I agree our past and future is corrupt, I have been saying that the whole time.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:42 pm
What the USA has done to Native Americans, Aferican Americans and to some extent, the irish, and chinese is just horrible. Slave labor, genocide, lynchings.. slums and all are the way Americans have dealt with non WASPS.
BUT that doesn't mean you can say every American is evil, ever member of govenment is evil.
In the Empire, individuals like Tarkin, Vader and Palp gave them an evil title. But it doesn't mean every Imperial Gov, Admiral what have you is evil.
I mean, Its how they are portrayed. If you think about it, the British govs were portrayed as fat pigs in the Americans eyes. Its common practice to bastardize the enemy.
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Darkened Angel Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:20 pm
I remembering hearing from someone that the Nazis trying to do that super race of blond-haired blue-eyed people was based off America's 1920s or so attempt at Eugenics, where they'd render anyone genetically undesirable infertile.
Can anyone confirm that as an actual truth, and not just someone's assumption?
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:24 pm
It's true... Eugenics was a fad in America all the way from the 1920s and into the 40s. It's also part of the reason no one cared about the Holocaust until they found the camps and got footage of just how grisly it was.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:27 pm
Darkened Angel I remembering hearing from someone that the Nazis trying to do that super race of blond-haired blue-eyed people was based off America's 1920s or so attempt at Eugenics, where they'd render anyone genetically undesirable infertile. Can anyone confirm that as an actual truth, and not just someone's assumption? Well, I don't know if America did such, but in Nazi Germany, they did do some hella rotten things. My cousin and I went to the library not too long ago, and we saw books about how they tried to weed out those they deemed unfit to breed.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:29 pm
Funny how in almost any school, they never mention that when they cover American History, at least not here in TN. I've never met anyone so far that's an American that was taught that in school, and I know it's not in any history books in the local schools around where I am.
It's one thing to be ashamed of a past atrocity, it's another to hide it. Name ONE nation that has never done any bad deeds throughout the history of the world, no matter how trivial or extreme.
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Darkened Angel Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Yeah... and no one mentions that the Nazi Party was the largest third party in America up until 1950 or so.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:36 pm
Of course not. It wouldn't do to have kids learn that their leaders were jackasses in the past.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:37 pm
Yeah... it sure makes stuff look hopeless, idiots today, jackasses yesterday, retards tomorrow? Our leaders stink.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:40 pm
yeah well...what have I started?
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:42 pm
Okay I'm fed up...
It's time for: REVOLUTION!!!
We're long overdue.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:43 pm
Look at the media.
FDR was a cripple, they respected him enough to not mention that to the public.
Today however, if Bush had a booger hanging out his nose we'd never hear the end of it.
And look at the court system. A burglar broke into a guy's home, and the home owner shot him trying to defend it, and the buglar sued him, and the judge allowed the case.
And then you got the Dems and Reps screwing over everyone because their petty squabbles are more important than doing their jobs and actually making things better for us. No, making the other side look bad by not letting them do something that benefits us is more important because HEAVEN FORBID they ever have to say, " Yes, the other party is doing a good job. "
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Darkened Angel Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:46 pm
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