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SIash Ex

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:47 pm


Just Naota

Without digging into the argument about the transition from roll, to leap...which you have backwards.

He performed a slide beneath the bolas, which transitioned into the flying knee, which landed...where-in he bent forward into a roll.

He did not transition the roll into the knee.

As to the knee its self, which is a critical point, it is a knee strike within the Muay Thai tradition...Where-in the striker, with knee extended, leans away from the attack and raises their arms to defend. The knee is extended further out, into a point, while the upper body is angled back.

I may not have explained it clearly enough, but...until now...it wasn't brought up in that light. If that is the case, then I might have taken liberties with what I know about the fighting style. Again, I ******** up just like anyone from time to time.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:49 pm


I've learned from this tournament that Zoning is a frowned upon practice. Heita explained it better but it turns out

People don't like being worked and trapped from a distance.

They just don't.

Even though trapping in hand to hand, or in melee, is just as destructive...Working people from a range is frowned upon.

So after the CoC I will probably make Tres less of a Zoner and more of a grappler.

Tres Ecstuffuan

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:52 pm


Tres Ecstuffuan
I've learned from this tournament that Zoning is a frowned upon practice. Heita explained it better but it turns out

People don't like being worked and trapped from a distance.

They just don't.

Even though trapping in hand to hand, or in melee, is just as destructive...Working people from a range is frowned upon.

So after the CoC I will probably make Tres less of a Zoner and more of a grappler.


I love trapping people.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:53 pm


Tres Ecstuffuan
I've learned from this tournament that Zoning is a frowned upon practice. Heita explained it better but it turns out

People don't like being worked and trapped from a distance.

They just don't.

Even though trapping in hand to hand, or in melee, is just as destructive...Working people from a range is frowned upon.

So after the CoC I will probably make Tres less of a Zoner and more of a grappler.

Well, and too...at the start of the fight I decided to express Eric's overall contempt for everything he sees by making my posts...

Which, admittedly, are purely technical from a combat stand-point...normally...

Into a more aggressive, internally insulting, type of writing. It was not my intention to make it sound like I was calling YOU a b***h for using range...I wanted it to come across as Eric "thinking" that way.

But, you have to walk a very fine line if you intend to do that.

Honestly, as a writer, I didn't mind that you were playing up to what Tres perceived as an advantage. It was true to the character, and displayed his intellect as a combatant.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:56 pm


The Great Absolute


I love trapping people.


We fight the same.

Its strange we have such different philosophies, but I guess we do come from the same place, gaia wise.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:57 pm


Slash Zinrai

Honestly, as a writer, I didn't mind that you were playing up to what Tres perceived as an advantage. It was true to the character, and displayed his intellect as a combatant.


I wasn't trying to avoid getting into range as much as I wanted to take advantage of the range while I had it.

Tres had no reason to think Erik had any long range weapons, he didn't visibly seem like he did, so Tres decided to try and keep up the pressure as he closed. I thought I was gonna get rage bulleted but Tres didn't know that.

Tres is a very cerebral fighter. He talks a lot but as a lot of people notice. He doesn't talk much while fighting.

Tres Ecstuffuan

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:59 pm


Tres Ecstuffuan

Lol.

You and those ******** Rage Bullets. pirate
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:59 pm


Tres Ecstuffuan
The Great Absolute


I love trapping people.


We fight the same.

Its strange we have such different philosophies, but I guess we do come from the same place, gaia wise.


I know right?

If this tournament was pure T1 i'd run the table.

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Tres Ecstuffuan

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:00 pm


I got your PM slash. I'm at work right now. I shouldn't be in this OOC cus I'm clearly distracted but I'll look at it after RAW tonight.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:01 pm


Slash Zinrai
Again, I ******** up just like anyone from time to time..


but we love you all the same. smile

im on my phone at work. I get out round 8 pm pacific time, got a family obligation and the gym plus tonight is midnight release of 3 : reaper of souls. I will try my hardest to grt a super epic awesome response up tonight if the gods favor it so.

im having trouble picturing the deflection but ill have to sit down and examine it in detail, I already have an idea of how to react. my main issue is trying to make my posts enjoyable to read when the character literally fights like a machine. it appeals to my technichal nature but the posting style does not scream "o joy and a bucket full of fun!" ya know. been experimenting with flavorly detail admist the writing to mix it up so I stay true to ths character.

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Just Naota

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:08 pm


Slash Zinrai
Just Naota

Without digging into the argument about the transition from roll, to leap...which you have backwards.

He performed a slide beneath the bolas, which transitioned into the flying knee, which landed...where-in he bent forward into a roll.

He did not transition the roll into the knee.

As to the knee its self, which is a critical point, it is a knee strike within the Muay Thai tradition...Where-in the striker, with knee extended, leans away from the attack and raises their arms to defend. The knee is extended further out, into a point, while the upper body is angled back.

I may not have explained it clearly enough, but...until now...it wasn't brought up in that light. If that is the case, then I might have taken liberties with what I know about the fighting style. Again, I ******** up just like anyone from time to time.


My bad, then. Haven't read the fight since before the round ended, so I got moves jumbled around.

But basically, whether it was a roll or a slide, Eric is still governed by physics which will dictate that he's still moving forward at the end of the slide and into the jump.

That said, I'm aware (more or less) how the flying knee works. When I first started entering tournaments, I was obsessed with the flying knee and pretty much did it every chance I got, which at the time I guess made people like me because for whatever reason they kept landing.

Though remember, Tres' construct is moving on a parallel course to the side of Eric, moving forward quickly, and with its arm outstretched. Leaning Eric's body away doesn't dodge or counter the lariat since the lariat's stopping point is collision or essentially when Tres decides to stop running. And since the stage was a giant coliseum, Tres could have potentially ran like 20+ yards, waggling his arms around until it struck something.

Leaning back during the knee is useful though, but particularly against things like punches where the punch can only go as far as the length of the arm. In that case, you can easily lean out of range.

Unless you're fighting Balrog from Street Fighter, but that's neither here nor there really.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:09 pm


Tres Ecstuffuan


Hey, it's cool! The profile isn't nearly as long as Dith's, so you won't have to read it in bursts. wink

I'm honestly not even sure how I'm awake right now, myself...so, I'm in zero hurry for anything.

Spiritus Immortalis

but we love you all the same. smile


Same to you, man! Take your time.

But, just like the last time we fought, you don't allow your characters to be surprised...so they come across as hard to relate to. You should make that family less of "that sort" of demon...and more like the Demon's from konami's video games. pirate

Give them personalities, and quirks of character!

Eric's a cocksure piss-ant with MASSIVE rejection issues whose been doped up with an experimental super drug...I can write narrative out of that all day long.

Don't box yourself in, and I think you'll have more fun...and make your characters seem more lively, as well!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:13 pm


You only need one power: strength absolute.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:14 pm


Just Naota

Oh, I absolutely see your point man!

Conversely, though, I don't use the flying knee all that often...probably because it's a Tony Jaa classic, along with his flying double-elbow.

I typically favor standing strikes, to leaping strikes; though, at the right time, they can spice up an otherwise boring "fist goes here" technical fight. I actually got docked a point, or so, in GTB last year...by Ole Vinny...because I went for an aerial staff slam while Scalar was down.

He said it was unnecessary. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:16 pm


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