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 Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:32 pm
erinnightwalker Spooky-Fangula also, I'm wondering.... what does this being gain from taking control of Eddie, or by telling me these things? Without knowing the character of the person in between (your friend, not Eddie), my gut reaction is a way for Friend to get attention unless you can verify with Eddie. I can also think of some more "normal" reasons why Eddie would have that reaction or change his voice. I'd need more info before I commit to an explanation. As for your would-be paramour Spooky, kick him in the nuts. Hard. Or the teeth, but the nuts are less expensive. It is not nice to force your hormones onto someone else and it sounds like he needs a lesson, especially if he's in your home on sufferance. i was kinda leary of the whole thing at first. but my friend has never brought up such in a conversation before and he trully ( i felt) is conserned over this. hehe,... 19th and ill be so much more happier. he'll be gone then.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:06 pm
Spooky-Fangula
also, I'm wondering.... what does this being gain from taking control of Eddie, or by telling me these things?
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this is what my friend said and askedJust assuming that this isn't someone fabricating for attention (which is the likeliest scenario), I will say that I witnessed something similar to what they're describing when I was nineteen. Up until then I'd never even heard of something like that happening; it's supposedly pretty rare. Study on my own taught me that there are many countless spirits out there aside from the ones good people venerate. They might lean toward what you or I would consider "evil" - but then, an earthquake isn't really evil, but it does cause a lot of chaos and damage. It is apparently necessary for the universe to remain balanced, harmony with chaos, joy with pain, life with death, and so on. I'm sure you're well versed in all the associated rhetoric. The thing is... some of these ancient entities supposedly feed from fear. The same way that the more people you get together, focusing on the "light as a feather, stiff as a board" chant make it work better, the influence a negative entity gains from being feared is increased with the number of people who fear it. When the King James version of the Bible was written, I'm almost certain that demonic names were edited out intentionally or altered, to decrease their "power." "Good" people, occultists or otherwise, don't go seeking out these self serving entities, might go their entire lives without knowing of them- or don't even believe in them. Most spells are very specific about the spirits they call, and include the constraint "with harm to none" somewhere in the wording, which should theoretically make it incredibly difficult for any entity (good or evil) to assume control over a physical body... because that would obviously be harmful to the individual's sovereignty. We never found out what happened to my brother before he had his big mental breakdown. My family doesn't talk about it, but holidays are usually strained because we all remember it. He was an atheist before that day, a real cynical type, and he used to be the guy who always took a dare just to prove somebody wrong. He just kind of snapped, Thanksgiving 2005. Some of it got video taped, and the videos wouldn't work right the next day, they blurred and distorted, with no sound or anything. It was a little freaky. confused I don't know how you'd go about finding out whether the incident was genuine, unless you know them personally and trust yourself to judge a lie from the truth face to face. Either way, I know I'm going to get out the sage tonight and give my house a good cleansing tonight. Just reading about that got me all creeped out so I'm jumping at shadows.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:04 pm
Spooky-Fangula i was kinda leary of the whole thing at first. but my friend has never brought up such in a conversation before and he trully ( i felt) is conserned over this. hehe,... 19th and ill be so much more happier. he'll be gone then. Then find out how trustworthy Eddie is. It can be faked, or it could be an actual psychological problem. Just to be on the safe side, might want to find out how scared of satanic stuff Eddie is. If he's scared of the entity, that can feed it's power over him because he will feel weaker. If he is a true believer in christianity, then you have a belief structure already in place to support him and deal with the intruder. If he believes in something else then you have some work to do.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:43 am
Chieftain Twilight well... I'm not even sure what to say at this point. I know I'm still working on it myself. but I recall talking about this with you before, now that I think about it... he's been keeping this up still, all this time? he must realy realy feel ashamed of looking at porn. o_O; all I can do about it is guess. it could be that he thinks it a guilty pleasure, because he's married. but this is me sill trying to figure out how a monogamous mind works. meh. Sex is Sex, and Love is Love, and Marriage is Marriage. they are not the same things, though they tend to go together. people need to stop lumping them all up into one concept, it's unhealthy. and I have a friend I've known since diaper-days who's a Pornstar now, and I've had plenty of opportunities to consider the career myself... isn't it the tiniest bit possible that your suspicions and jealousies are part of why he still tries to hide these things from you? confused you get so worked up over those little details, even as you claim that the problem is just the lies rather than the content. I think you are trying hard to convince yourself that you don't mind things that you realy do, and he can see it.
I do kind of mind that he is watching it. Like I said, he knows I will make videos with him. So what is the point of going somewhere else? I told him it makes me feel unimportant... So yea, it does bother me.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:53 am
erinnightwalker I realize I may be butting in where I am not wanted, and I realize that. I apologize in advance for any ill will this may cause. I am a female and I watch porn. I have a boyfriend (long term) and he watches porn. Sometime we watch porn together. Sometimes we don't. It is an activity that unless your partner is willing to open up about, you may not feel comfortable sharing. Porn is a fantasy- What if I had a c**k that big, or could do that with a can of whipped cream? To put it bluntly, he knows what his own d**k looks like. He may not want homemade videos because he can have that. Hentai especially is a fantasy- you show me a true real life futanari and I'll show you a transsexual between operations. Most men think the real life one is disgusting, but the animated one is fair game because it is safe. He may have a fantasy that you don't want to do or doesn't want to ask you to do. Or hell, maybe you just can't. One of my boyfriend's favorite things we can't do until I get better birth control. So he watches relevant videos instead. Doesn't mean he'll go out and find someone else to do it with. He is satisfying his urge at home in a relatively harmless way. Porn has such a forbidden aura that its pathetic. Most of the stigma attached to being a porn star is crap. Just because they use sex for a living doesn't make them a whore. All the name calling and posturing, the moaning and the grunting is an act. People expect that from idealized sex (there's the fantasy again), so the porn industry obliges. They are making an honest day's living with other actors. No one's home is being broken up. No significant other is left crying in the dust. No AIDS is being spread. So how do they qualify as being a whore? You say you can admit to your paranoia, Aakosir. Why are you paranoid about porn sites? If it was online sex dating sites, then I'd be paranoid. He's keeping these sites a secret because you assume that porn=whoring=affairOMG. He's uncomfortable talking about it with you because you assume that he wants more sex than just what you offer. And if you've been in this pattern for a while now, he's not going to open up about it easily. He closed it off, denies it heavily, because it upsets you. If you can, gently find out why he was looking at them. Does he like the hentai because you can do anything in a fake world? Does he like a**l, or oral, or something else that is not featured in the bedroom? The fact that he was looking at the porn instead of the sex partner sites makes me think he isn't cheating. And he might just be curious. I know there are a few porn videos I have watched just to see how the hell they managed to do it O.o Instead of looking like blaugh my face looks more like gonk , eek , and xd . Try to find out why he watches it before you pass judgment on him. Personally, if it was my boyfriend, and he was just after something new to wank off to, rather than fulfilling a fantasy, I'd be happy if he was looking at porn. I'm not always around when Little Boyfriend stands at attention, so I'd rather he reached for a mouse and a computer than a phonebook and his car keys.
Um... About the fantasy parts... I am willing to try anything at least once. He knows this. We do mix it up a lot, and I get upset if we go too long without any activity.
I guess he does avoid it because I am very upfront and stubborn about the subject when I find out he has been hiding it. He does talk to me about things when I let him come to me, but I am not that patient and when it happens that second I like to take care of it.
And I guess the reason I am paranoid is because I want to lose at least 30 pounds. And I feel like he is looking at these other women because he is not happy with me. It's a whole self-confidence thing for me... But it's also an honesty issue. Like I said, I have shown him my very small collection, which consist of 10 pictures of yiff.
And him tired of seeing our videos, I think should not be an issue period. I'm his wife. Why would he get tired of our videos? I would feel even worse if he did...
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:02 am
I feel like a bad vice captain. I haven't posted here in a long time. All those kittens...Can I offer up my cat in exchange? He's all bite-y and territorial. He could use with a good dunking. Wrap him up in a potato sack and throw him in the river. Might improve his attitude.
I want a beer (Dark Hart Irish stout, to be precise), but it's not even 9 am. Also to early for vodka. Darn.
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ScarletFrost Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:51 am
Aakosir Oh, and Foxy can you post a link to your chainmail work? Shandrel and I would really like to see it All over it blaugh
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:01 pm
Just stopping in to say hi. I bought a video game and paint for my living room with my Christmas money so I have been quite busy. So far the living room is only abotu 10 percent done. But I'm going for a Victorian glamour gothic sort of look.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:53 pm
Hello everyone, apaprently i missed quite a bit.
now i would like some clarification erinnightwalker about your statement here.
"If he is a true believer in christianity, then you have a belief structure already in place to support him and deal with the intruder. If he believes in something else then you have some work to do."
please clarify your belief. Because the way this sounds, is rather offensive. and i would like to clear that up. There are many people the guild who are not christian. Including myself, the implication that ONLY christianity can be of use here is a rather offputting.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:14 pm
Hey Shan!
Congrats!
I saw your status.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:30 pm
._. school tomorrow. oh dear.... burning_eyes emo I hate my classes, I'm stuck with the same teachers I dnt like for the rest of the year.... and my social life is a serious PAIN IN THE NECK. ._. I'm still with the same guy, and people are getting worse about us believe it or not...
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:32 pm
shandrel Hello everyone, apaprently i missed quite a bit. now i would like some clarification erinnightwalker about your statement here. "If he is a true believer in christianity, then you have a belief structure already in place to support him and deal with the intruder. If he believes in something else then you have some work to do." please clarify your belief. Because the way this sounds, is rather offensive. and i would like to clear that up. There are many people the guild who are not christian. Including myself, the implication that ONLY christianity can be of use here is a rather offputting. Hmm.... not how I meant that at all, considering I worship a sea god XD A true believer in any religion already has a network in place to deal with unwanted spirits. If the spirit in question is a Christian spirit (or in the Christian paragidm), AND if Eddie is a Christian, he has more specifically Christian weapons to fight with. I may not agree with some of the results Christians get, but they do tend to produce people who believe and have a structure to that belief. If Eddie is an eclectic neopagan, for argument's sake, he may not have a concrete system worked out yet. His belief may be strong, but it might lack that structure. Instead of using the preset Christian way of dealing with unwanted spirits, he would have to find a way that meshes with his existing beliefs. That's the part that I meant when I said "have some work to do". Not that Christianity is superior or inferior; it would be the same if Eddie was Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, or from a good coven. Those already have the way to deal in a system that the worshipper already believes in. I chose to use Christianity as an example because of the praying to Satan bit mentioned. If Eddie is making it up unconsciously he might use an obscure demonic-sounding name because it sounds evil. Then of course it could be repressed trauma from watching his stepfather run over a kid, which opens up a whole new can of worms.
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Chieftain Twilight Captain
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:03 pm
meh... too many red flags in my opinion. I just don't believe it's an honest possession, though it might lead to an pen doorway if that idiot keeps it up.
first of all, Belial isn't an obscure name. the idea that just because it's only mentioned once in the Bible means that eddie likely wouldn't know it doesn't stand up to the fact that the same name is widely acknowledged all over the internet, printed in books far and wide, and is a common classroom and hallway personality. kids just recognize the name in it's christianized sense as a culturally acknowledged common knowledge.
secondly, there are no references at all of any supporting evidence, nothing to prove or even support the claims that it's true. there is no theological/metaphysical/historical accuracy, whatsoever. usually there is an inevitable calling card. not always, but often enough that this makes a decent supporting red-flag.
thirdly, there is a strong air of theatrics, as well as a direct mention of typical "power-of-suggestion" root cause. eddie also seemed very eager to share knowledge of his experiences, even under direct threat of repercussions, and heavy intimidations, that inconsistantly seem to have him frightened to death. but just enough to not have to answer to important details.
I just don't believe it's true. the kid needs to be dealt with, clearly, but there is nothing to be afraid of.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:25 pm
Aakosir No, I do not mind your input. It would be a little hypocritical of me to say no since I did place this in a public place.
Um... About the fantasy parts... I am willing to try anything at least once. He knows this. We do mix it up a lot, and I get upset if we go too long without any activity.
I guess he does avoid it because I am very upfront and stubborn about the subject when I find out he has been hiding it. He does talk to me about things when I let him come to me, but I am not that patient and when it happens that second I like to take care of it.
And I guess the reason I am paranoid is because I want to lose at least 30 pounds. And I feel like he is looking at these other women because he is not happy with me. It's a whole self-confidence thing for me... But it's also an honesty issue. Like I said, I have shown him my very small collection, which consist of 10 pictures of yiff.
And him tired of seeing our videos, I think should not be an issue period. I'm his wife. Why would he get tired of our videos? I would feel even worse if he did... I would slow down and let him come to you about this. It sounds kinda like you have two different temperments- you like to fix it now and he likes to let it stew a while. When you force the issue, he clams up because he needs that time to think about it. Also, he might not see it as hiding it. He may be a naturally reserved person, and talking about porn, even (or especially) to your wife may be hard for him. Its just one of those things that has to be approached in a certain way for him to be able to deal with it. I understand about the weight thing. Believe me. I would talk to him about this. Don't lay the blame on him, just explain why you are so paranoid about it. And don't expect him to respond immediately. Give him, and you, some time to think about it. His actions are a trigger for this paranoia, but it is your reactions that are actually hurting you in this case. He loves you. He married you. Its you he curls up with at night, and you he thinks about. Your body is only a part of the reason (and hopefully a small part) of why he married you. Let him know you would like some positive feedback on your body. I had to flat out tell my boyfriend that I like to touch him. Until then he thought that I was trying to annoy him when I nuzzled him at the computer. I wasn't, but once he knew what was going on a lot of my weird actions clicked for him. Let him know about this fear you have, and he might surprise you in his reaction. As for the videos..... I doubt he is tired of you. But he was there. He knows what happened. He knows that the camera falls 3 seconds after the condom is on. He knows which moan comes after what thrust. Its a memory in his head already. In a porn, he hasn't seen it before. He doesn't know what (or who xd ) is coming next. Its fresh and exciting, and may even give him a new idea to try out with you. And he may just like porn. There are some aesthetically pleasing porn stars out there (male AND female). I have actually stopped a porn before to use as a sketch model. It doesn't mean he loves you any less, or thinks you aren't pretty.
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ScarletFrost Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:13 pm
2 hours after I woke up, my wonderful hubby gave me a beer. All is right in the world!
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