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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:56 pm
But I have been told that god loves everyone.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:58 pm
Shuici7 But I have been told that god loves everyone. He's supposed to. but the way most religions teach it is "god loves everyone who is a certain way and ******** the rest." that's why i tend to lean more towards fundamentalism.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:54 pm
I was talking about what Ar-ca-nus said and quoted. the thing saying that god hates transvestites
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:52 pm
I'm a little sick of this ignorance. God makes it painfully obvious in his word that homosexuality is sin. I will give you ample scriptural evidence of such and I will explain to you how you've taken "judgment" out of context.
Leviticus 18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. (keep in mind that this is under the old covenant, so the killing is justified) Romans 1:26-27 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Romans 1:32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
There ya go. That was from both the old testament and the new testament. Both condemn homosexuality. In this country of ours, you may believe what you like, but know that Christianity and the practice of homosexuality do not mix.
Now for the so-called judgment. I wrote a blog about this and, due to the fact that I hate clicking on links and figure others do as well, I'll copy and paste it in here.
“Don’t Judge Me!” A Sinner’s Ace in the Hole:
It has come to amaze me how so many people can support a book in which they have hardly or never read. I speak of the Bible, of course. A large number of people like the “good” parts of the Bible, such as love, peace, and Heaven. They do not, however, enjoy recognizing the more sobering aspects such as sacrifice, repentance, and condemnation. I am reminded of this phenomenon more and more whenever God’s words through me cause a non-believer to have a run-in with conviction. Most of us know that we should not judge other people, though few know the definition of the word, according to the Bible of course. My purpose here isn’t to teach on judgment, but defining terms is necessary. The Bible teaches that we should accept all people. Romans 14:1 Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. How do we accept each other? By not judging them. Romans 14:2-3 One man’s faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. This is where everyone comes to understand that judging other people equals bad. However, the subject of judgment cannot be dropped quite yet. The people still don’t know exactly what it is yet! Judgment: making fun, putting down, ridiculing, scoffing
There. A basic understanding for a basic concept. Yet people easily twist the meaning of judgment every day for a faulty method of accepting others. In our society today, people have developed a mentality that says, “Whatever floats your boat! If it feels good, do it! No one has a right to tell you otherwise!” Actions and behaviors that used to be considered obscene are now being embraced. In concentrated topics, people accept their brother’s sins, thinking that in this way they are abstaining from judgment. Only concerning sins that are universally unacceptable because of their strong impression on the conscience do people remember this: love the sinner, hate the sin. Is it possible to love someone, but hate what they do? Of course it is, though it may be hard in certain circumstances. Here are two hypothetical situations as an example: Situation #1 Suppose I am sitting in an ordinary college classroom, surrounded by people on all sides. Now suppose that I shout something. I shout, “Murder is bad because it is a sin. Murderers should not murder!” After shouting, I would get strange looks from all around me for two reasons: I shouted spontaneously and I said something obvious. Situation #2 In this situation, I am sitting in the same college classroom, surrounded by people just as before. The difference this time is what I am compelled to shout: “Homosexuality is bad because it is a sin. Homosexuals should not engage in sexual immorality!” Once again, everyone in the classroom is shocked for two reasons: My spontaneous shout and my “judgment” of homosexuals according to their ignorance. All of the sudden, people look at me as if I’ve said something foul. They glare at me and exclaim such things as “Homosexuals are people too! They should have a right to marry who they want to! You have no right to judge them!”
Are you starting to see my point? In the eyes of God, my part in both Situation #1 and #2 are the same. In both instances, I acknowledge loudly that a particular sin is bad. Is this not common sense, that sin is bad and should be hated just as God hates it?! Why is it that, though I basically took the same action in both situations, people reacted in so much more of a hostile manner when I spoke against homosexuality? The reason is simple. People have accepted homosexuality, just as so many have accepted other sins so as not to offend others or to justify themselves.
Do people really accuse others of being judgmental as their “ace in the hole?” Let’s venture into another hypothetical situation. Suppose I give personA a ten-question test, each question asking if personA has broken one of God’s ten commandments and asking for a “yes” or “no” answer. After having filled out the sheet, I tell personA that if he answered “yes” to any of the questions, then he is guilty of breaking God’s law and quite eligible for Hell unless he does something.
Uh oh! Here it comes! I can feel it! “Don’t judge me!!! You’ve sinned too!!” You’re right that I have, but that doesn’t make it okay. Though I am guilty of breaking God’s law, I am considered righteous because I have accepted Jesus and his sacrifice for me into my life.
Did I make my point clear enough? Thank you for your time ladies and gentlemen and goodnight!
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:53 pm
You are the one who is ignorant brad. I've been able to consider if who i love is wrong, and ive come to the conclusion that it is not wrong. You are unable to consider that you might be wrong or that there is a different possibility of what is right. And you have proven what i stated earlier: The quotes you used are the only ones i have ever heard. If those are the only references to being anti gay there are in the bible, then you don't present a strong argument.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:42 pm
Shuici7 You are the one who is ignorant brad. I've been able to consider if who i love is wrong, and ive come to the conclusion that it is not wrong. You are unable to consider that you might be wrong or that there is a different possibility of what is right. And you have proven what i stated earlier: The quotes you used are the only ones i have ever heard. If those are the only references to being anti gay there are in the bible, then you don't present a strong argument. not to mention the entirety of his condemnation of gay marriage. if christians think it is wrong let them. btu that dosen;t mean a population of a country which is mostyl secular(or atleast non-christian) has to stop gay from marrying simply because some people think it's wrong. personally i say love is love. you don't like it don't look. but let others be who they are. not out of a lack of judging but out of mutual respect. do they give you s**t for being hetero? do they try to turn you gay? then let them live in peace.
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:04 pm
Lazarus The Resurected Shuici7 You are the one who is ignorant brad. I've been able to consider if who i love is wrong, and ive come to the conclusion that it is not wrong. You are unable to consider that you might be wrong or that there is a different possibility of what is right. And you have proven what i stated earlier: The quotes you used are the only ones i have ever heard. If those are the only references to being anti gay there are in the bible, then you don't present a strong argument. not to mention the entirety of his condemnation of gay marriage. if christians think it is wrong let them. btu that dosen;t mean a population of a country which is mostyl secular(or atleast non-christian) has to stop gay from marrying simply because some people think it's wrong. personally i say love is love. you don't like it don't look. but let others be who they are. not out of a lack of judging but out of mutual respect. do they give you s**t for being hetero? do they try to turn you gay? then let them live in peace. Exactly and thank you. Also just wondering: *captain edit*
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:30 pm
Please don't insult people in the guild. It is not appropriate. As for posting, please post in the appropriate topics. Read the rules and follow them guys, I don't want to have to ban anyone.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:49 pm
Sorry lithanusVV.
Just got kinda ticked off there. Please no banning><
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:14 pm
Its ok, just try your best to restrain your self. This site does have impressionable young ones on this site.
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:55 pm
Okay..Ah but well.....Nevermind
I was just about to make a comment about kids viewing the public sites and seeing the.......often 'negative' arguments towards homosexuality.
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:59 pm
It goes both ways, it just depends what perspective it is been shown from.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:24 pm
Yeah well...stuff happens
So....summer coming up..pride parades...what are peoples perspective on that?
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:52 pm
Kio Landera Yeah well...stuff happens So....summer coming up..pride parades...what are peoples perspective on that? Can't wait. it's been a year since i've worn any colour, pride is the only time of year that i'm not head to foot in black.
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:56 pm
Same here. Ah lazarus, if only you were in california we could meet at the one i get to go to.
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