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Unrelinquished Despair
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:39 pm


Unrelinquished Despair
Hey, does the Strong Will attribute provide any resistance against those with the sexy attribute, besides their possible genjutsu effect?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:43 am


Unrelinquished Despair
Unrelinquished Despair
Hey, does the Strong Will attribute provide any resistance against those with the sexy attribute, besides their possible genjutsu effect?

I wouldn't say so. Strong Willed gives enough. it's can't be used to apply to everything.

Cobra_X
Captain

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-o-Havik-o-
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:30 am


Cobra_X
Unrelinquished Despair
Unrelinquished Despair
Hey, does the Strong Will attribute provide any resistance against those with the sexy attribute, besides their possible genjutsu effect?

I wouldn't say so. Strong Willed gives enough. it's can't be used to apply to everything.
What would be then, Strong willed is the only thing we have that give the Rpc more control ove there stat of mind.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:48 am


The only listed bonus is to be in a relationship.

Aside from that, Sexiness is just as it sounds... a force not a lot of people can contend with.

Cobra_X
Captain

Aged Gaian


-o-Havik-o-
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:13 am


Cobra_X
The only listed bonus is to be in a relationship.

Aside from that, Sexiness is just as it sounds... a force not a lot of people can contend with.
I can except that, Havik will be in a relation ship with a Npc for some story stuff, he will interact with her and every thing up until it's tragic end.

Not to say Havik would still be found of there figure but it would still count toward him not blindly following them into traps for adventures of dirt time right?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:20 am


-o-Havik-o-
Cobra_X
The only listed bonus is to be in a relationship.

Aside from that, Sexiness is just as it sounds... a force not a lot of people can contend with.
I can except that, Havik will be in a relation ship with a Npc for some story stuff, he will interact with her and every thing up until it's tragic end.

Not to say Havik would still be found of there figure but it would still count toward him not blindly following them into traps for adventures of dirt time right?

NPC relationships don't count... sorry.

However, just because someone is sexy, it doesn't make them a Siren, whose call you have to obey. No one said anything about blindly following them into traps... you're simply more apt to believe what they are saying. think of it like any other real life situation when there is an attractive woman (or man) who you like is telling you something. You'd be more apt to believe them, or comply with what they suggest if you were attracted to them. that's the way it works.

if they tell you to jump off of a cliff, obviously, it wouldn't work. But if they say they are just visiting the village so they can get some supplies for their grandmother, when inf act they are a spy... you're more likely to believe their lie due to the fact that you're distracted by their beauty.

Cobra_X
Captain

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-o-Havik-o-
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:31 pm


Cobra_X
-o-Havik-o-
Cobra_X
The only listed bonus is to be in a relationship.

Aside from that, Sexiness is just as it sounds... a force not a lot of people can contend with.
I can except that, Havik will be in a relation ship with a Npc for some story stuff, he will interact with her and every thing up until it's tragic end.

Not to say Havik would still be found of there figure but it would still count toward him not blindly following them into traps for adventures of dirt time right?

NPC relationships don't count... sorry.

However, just because someone is sexy, it doesn't make them a Siren, whose call you have to obey. No one said anything about blindly following them into traps... you're simply more apt to believe what they are saying. think of it like any other real life situation when there is an attractive woman (or man) who you like is telling you something. You'd be more apt to believe them, or comply with what they suggest if you were attracted to them. that's the way it works.

if they tell you to jump off of a cliff, obviously, it wouldn't work. But if they say they are just visiting the village so they can get some supplies for their grandmother, when inf act they are a spy... you're more likely to believe their lie due to the fact that you're distracted by their beauty.
I see, but wouldn't they be able to just ask you to dinner saying [insert generic line here] and lure you into a trap. Your character would have no reason to say no, and if the sexy nin has a trap laid then you would be kinda following blindly into a trap, with out any real defense against the attribute.

Not trying to say it needs to be changed, just saying it is a hard situation to handle sometimes. I doubt there can be a rule in place that explains it any better than it has been already.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:49 pm


So, being in a relationship nullifies the effects of the Sexy Attribute? I don't think that's logical. Even in a relationship, a person would be attracted to the opposite sex or otherwise [based on their sexuality]. A strong bond still wouldn't stop the natural instincts on selecting the most fitting partner for reproduction. That's basically how we define people as attractive or sexy. While love is all philosophy.

phlegmatic waste


Unrelinquished Despair
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:01 pm


He didn't say that it nullifies it, he said there were bonuses against it.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:18 pm


What kinds of bonuses?

phlegmatic waste


Deil Grist
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:25 pm


NanoChip
So, being in a relationship nullifies the effects of the Sexy Attribute? I don't think that's logical. Even in a relationship, a person would be attracted to the opposite sex or otherwise [based on their sexuality]. A strong bond still wouldn't stop the natural instincts on selecting the most fitting partner for reproduction. That's basically how we define people as attractive or sexy. While love is all philosophy.

*sigh* this needs to go in the FAQ at some point, because this is the third time I've had to make our reasoning clear:

Both Cunning and being in a long loving relationship with another RPC give partial resistance to the sexy attribute. The Sexy attribute makes your character so attractive that anyone attracted to your gender will burn with the desire to please you, and thus they won't be able to lie to your face because they want you to trust them, they'll usually believe what you say because they're almost blinded by passion, and of course they would try their best to court you by doing what you ask so long as it is reasonable.

Cunning allows you to see that the target is using his/her sexyness to get their way, so you won't fall for any flirtatious action aside from the combat ability unless your character willingly wants to court the sexy ninja. Thus the cunning attribute removes the overwhelming desire to court caused by the sexy attribute, but you still have to interact with the character as if the he or she was attractive to you.

Being in a strong relationship with another RPC satisfies your character's romantic needs, therefore your character won't have the overwhelming desire to court the ninja, but again you still have to interact with the ninja as if he or she were quite attractive. It's like if you eat a bunch of cake you had been craving and then wait an hour or two before eating a snack, the cake will still somewhat appeal to you for a snack, but you wouldn't be hit by the big craving for cake like before because you just had some.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:51 pm


Deil Grist
NanoChip
So, being in a relationship nullifies the effects of the Sexy Attribute? I don't think that's logical. Even in a relationship, a person would be attracted to the opposite sex or otherwise [based on their sexuality]. A strong bond still wouldn't stop the natural instincts on selecting the most fitting partner for reproduction. That's basically how we define people as attractive or sexy. While love is all philosophy.

*sigh* this needs to go in the FAQ at some point, because this is the third time I've had to make our reasoning clear:

Both Cunning and being in a long loving relationship with another RPC give partial resistance to the sexy attribute. The Sexy attribute makes your character so attractive that anyone attracted to your gender will burn with the desire to please you, and thus they won't be able to lie to your face because they want you to trust them, they'll usually believe what you say because they're almost blinded by passion, and of course they would try their best to court you by doing what you ask so long as it is reasonable.

Cunning allows you to see that the target is using his/her sexyness to get their way, so you won't fall for any flirtatious action aside from the combat ability unless your character willingly wants to court the sexy ninja. Thus the cunning attribute removes the overwhelming desire to court caused by the sexy attribute, but you still have to interact with the character as if the he or she was attractive to you.

Being in a strong relationship with another RPC satisfies your character's romantic needs, therefore your character won't have the overwhelming desire to court the ninja, but again you still have to interact with the ninja as if he or she were quite attractive. It's like if you eat a bunch of cake you had been craving and then wait an hour or two before eating a snack, the cake will still somewhat appeal to you for a snack, but you wouldn't be hit by the big craving for cake like before because you just had some.
I heard cake heart

-o-Havik-o-
Vice Captain


Aqua Fall 12

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:59 pm


This kenjutsu style says that Cory K. Dara is the master, while he doesn't exist.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:31 pm


Hmm...Cunnig gives that bonus, then what about Intelligence? And yet, knowing something is one side of the coin but doing it or preventing it is another. Alright I would say the relationship thing is alright if the partner has the sexy attribute as well. You see, because this 'stranger' with the sexy attribute would be superior to your partner if he/she didn't have the sexy attribute as well. I would always choose a snack above broccoli even if I was full. If I have the choice, I'd always leave the broccoli meal for a good snack. Does this seem better? Sexy Attribute Stranger gets beaten by Relationship Partner with Sexy Attribute.

phlegmatic waste


-o-Havik-o-
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:46 pm


NanoChip
Hmm...Cunnig gives that bonus, then what about Intelligence? And yet, knowing something is one side of the coin but doing it or preventing it is another. Alright I would say the relationship thing is alright if the partner has the sexy attribute as well. You see, because this 'stranger' with the sexy attribute would be superior to your partner if he/she didn't have the sexy attribute as well. I would always choose a snack above broccoli even if I was full. If I have the choice, I'd always leave the broccoli meal for a good snack. Does this seem better? Sexy Attribute Stranger gets beaten by Relationship Partner with Sexy Attribute.
Your really thinking to much into it, building the guild a lot of the crew has come to find that there can NOT be a rule for everything. If something is out of place with the attributes and someone is not responding correctly then crew can step in. Or if you are not sure of how something will react then ask, like me and Despair did.

For a more logical answer though intelligence and being cunning are two VERY different things, I am a street smart, simple solution guy, and I fool, and understand things my 4.0 book worm friends will never understand. Intel gives you the ability to understand logical things, were as cunning helps you understand trickery, and sexiness is anything but logical.

The second part about a partner having, or not having the sexy attribute is also some what mute, in your case then you would take the bait of a sexy nin, but Deil would not because to him Misuki has something far greater than mere sexy and wouldn't jeopardize it. This is a case by case situation of course, that will be determined by different types of Rpc's, but hopefully wont come up very often if people Rp there character to be there charter and not just to say there better than the other Rper.
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