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 Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:38 pm
HokLong Soul Fighters Leg Kicks HokLong I condition in several ways. Out of class at home I am constantly pulling out a matress and working on some of the acrobatic techniques I want to get, and working on one technique such as the back handspring 50-100 times really puts on a good sweat. I also love going out side on a clear day and choosing a random weapon and just start playing around with it seeing what I can do, and trying to create forms and self-defense techniques. At the school I go through with a partner and work different self-defense techniques trying to create some effective techniques and what not. I also enjoy just using basic striking conditioning methods to toughen up the skin, such methods as the three star arm conditioning, or just no gear sparring with medium to hard contact. It really prepares you for sparring with others and, atleast with Tae Kwon Do, prepare you to for the strong kicks coming at you from others, as well as works on your speed and technique because you win the sparring match. Finally in class, always put forth full effort. Never put in any less, even with the basics. One of my favourite instructors at my school is the co-owner of the school and senior instructor. Whenever she instructs the class we always do basics up and down the room, low blocks, middle blocks, everything. I always come out of it better than I was before, and I do my best to incorperate it in my home training. Full contact sparring without gear is an easy way to get injured I do agree with the last part It will only get you injured if you start full contact. You start light and eventually build up until you can take full contact. No, if you don't have protective gear and go full contact at all, you will possibly get injured. But then again, if you haven't been injured yet, you guys probably aren't actually going full contact.
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:31 am
I actually prefer full contact without gear. It's easier to move around.
I haven't been badly injured yet, worst I've had was repeatedly spraining my ankle for three constant weeks. It was so swollen that I had to put ice on it every day and yet I still trained.
But I have seen broken noses, broken legs, broken toes and fingers and also another loose teeth (straight after came the compulsary mouth guard rule)
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:42 am
KaseyBaby I actually prefer full contact without gear. It's easier to move around. I haven't been badly injured yet, worst I've had was repeatedly spraining my ankle for three constant weeks. It was so swollen that I had to put ice on it every day and yet I still trained. But I have seen broken noses, broken legs, broken toes and fingers and also another loose teeth (straight after came the compulsary mouth guard rule) Gloves and shinpads should be a must for full contact sparring Chestgear is always overdoing it And Headgear is always a good safeguard - but not always necessary. Professional fighters are padded down hardcore when they train. Why? They cant risk injuries. If it's good enough for them, it should be good enough for you. And if you're not getting hurt sparring without gear, you're not going full contact.
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:26 am
Soul Fighters Leg Kicks KaseyBaby I actually prefer full contact without gear. It's easier to move around. I haven't been badly injured yet, worst I've had was repeatedly spraining my ankle for three constant weeks. It was so swollen that I had to put ice on it every day and yet I still trained. But I have seen broken noses, broken legs, broken toes and fingers and also another loose teeth (straight after came the compulsary mouth guard rule) Gloves and shinpads should be a must for full contact sparring Chestgear is always overdoing it And Headgear is always a good safeguard - but not always necessary. Professional fighters are padded down hardcore when they train. Why? They cant risk injuries. If it's good enough for them, it should be good enough for you. And if you're not getting hurt sparring without gear, you're not going full contact. I agree. Well with gloves and gum shields anyway. Shin pads you can do without unless as soul said, you're preparing for a fight. Head guards are good for safety, but the reason I always wore mine in practise, was because it was required for comp. And you do need to get used to fighting with your head wrapped in plastic, as it does make a difference to your stamina. I always found anyways
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:39 pm
DarklingGlory Soul Fighters Leg Kicks KaseyBaby I actually prefer full contact without gear. It's easier to move around. I haven't been badly injured yet, worst I've had was repeatedly spraining my ankle for three constant weeks. It was so swollen that I had to put ice on it every day and yet I still trained. But I have seen broken noses, broken legs, broken toes and fingers and also another loose teeth (straight after came the compulsary mouth guard rule) Gloves and shinpads should be a must for full contact sparring Chestgear is always overdoing it And Headgear is always a good safeguard - but not always necessary. Professional fighters are padded down hardcore when they train. Why? They cant risk injuries. If it's good enough for them, it should be good enough for you. And if you're not getting hurt sparring without gear, you're not going full contact. I agree. Well with gloves and gum shields anyway. Shin pads you can do without unless as soul said, you're preparing for a fight. Head guards are good for safety, but the reason I always wore mine in practise, was because it was required for comp. And you do need to get used to fighting with your head wrapped in plastic, as it does make a difference to your stamina. I always found anyways I beg to differ on Chest Guards but that's me coming from a TKD background. Shin pads (especially those that pad your feet) I think are as necessary as gloves, especially in martial arts that use the top of the foot to kick with. There are many small bones (metatarsals) in the top of your foot that are easily bruised and injured. If it makes sense to glove your fists to protect your hands while punching, I see no reason why not to protect your feet while kicking. Man, I thought my conditioning sucked, the stuff you guys are suggesting is childs play.
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:24 am
TaeKyon DarklingGlory Soul Fighters Leg Kicks KaseyBaby I actually prefer full contact without gear. It's easier to move around. I haven't been badly injured yet, worst I've had was repeatedly spraining my ankle for three constant weeks. It was so swollen that I had to put ice on it every day and yet I still trained. But I have seen broken noses, broken legs, broken toes and fingers and also another loose teeth (straight after came the compulsary mouth guard rule) Gloves and shinpads should be a must for full contact sparring Chestgear is always overdoing it And Headgear is always a good safeguard - but not always necessary. Professional fighters are padded down hardcore when they train. Why? They cant risk injuries. If it's good enough for them, it should be good enough for you. And if you're not getting hurt sparring without gear, you're not going full contact. I agree. Well with gloves and gum shields anyway. Shin pads you can do without unless as soul said, you're preparing for a fight. Head guards are good for safety, but the reason I always wore mine in practise, was because it was required for comp. And you do need to get used to fighting with your head wrapped in plastic, as it does make a difference to your stamina. I always found anyways I beg to differ on Chest Guards but that's me coming from a TKD background. Shin pads (especially those that pad your feet) I think are as necessary as gloves, especially in martial arts that use the top of the foot to kick with. There are many small bones (metatarsals) in the top of your foot that are easily bruised and injured. If it makes sense to glove your fists to protect your hands while punching, I see no reason why not to protect your feet while kicking. Man, I thought my conditioning sucked, the stuff you guys are suggesting is childs play. Are you serious? Out of all the sparring gear to wear I'd regard a chestguard as the least important. You have a point about foot padding, but I'd say more to provide some protection for your toes. Instep is a really bad striking surface to use. And I say that coming from a tkd background aswell.
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:03 pm
TaeKyon has a point about the instep protection
Even in MT, I worry about my insteps
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:21 pm
DarklingGlory TaeKyon DarklingGlory Soul Fighters Leg Kicks KaseyBaby I actually prefer full contact without gear. It's easier to move around. I haven't been badly injured yet, worst I've had was repeatedly spraining my ankle for three constant weeks. It was so swollen that I had to put ice on it every day and yet I still trained. But I have seen broken noses, broken legs, broken toes and fingers and also another loose teeth (straight after came the compulsary mouth guard rule) Gloves and shinpads should be a must for full contact sparring Chestgear is always overdoing it And Headgear is always a good safeguard - but not always necessary. Professional fighters are padded down hardcore when they train. Why? They cant risk injuries. If it's good enough for them, it should be good enough for you. And if you're not getting hurt sparring without gear, you're not going full contact. I agree. Well with gloves and gum shields anyway. Shin pads you can do without unless as soul said, you're preparing for a fight. Head guards are good for safety, but the reason I always wore mine in practise, was because it was required for comp. And you do need to get used to fighting with your head wrapped in plastic, as it does make a difference to your stamina. I always found anyways I beg to differ on Chest Guards but that's me coming from a TKD background. Shin pads (especially those that pad your feet) I think are as necessary as gloves, especially in martial arts that use the top of the foot to kick with. There are many small bones (metatarsals) in the top of your foot that are easily bruised and injured. If it makes sense to glove your fists to protect your hands while punching, I see no reason why not to protect your feet while kicking. Man, I thought my conditioning sucked, the stuff you guys are suggesting is childs play. Are you serious? Out of all the sparring gear to wear I'd regard a chestguard as the least important. You have a point about foot padding, but I'd say more to provide some protection for your toes. Instep is a really bad striking surface to use. And I say that coming from a tkd background aswell. The toes don't need protection because kicking with your toes is bad form. Whether or not the instep is a good striking surface or not is moot; I merely suggested that they should be necessary for styles that do, which includes a lot of so called traditional martial art styles. As for chest pads their usage in WTF TKD is perfectly understandable as they're not merely used for protection but also for scoring purposes as well during competition. Like red and blue singlets in wrestling.
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:55 am
Soul Fighters Leg Kicks TaeKyon has a point about the instep protection Even in MT, I worry about my insteps Personally, I always wear shin/foot protectors if I can. Catching one on the instep reeeeally ******** hurts. One of my old intructors used to have a bad habit of dropping his elbow into your instep if you tried to roundhouse him in the side. But you can still kick someone whilst avoiding a bruised instep or crunched toes. You get me? Bruising your instep or hurting your toes will be because you ******** up. Bare knuckles striking face will always be nasty. And I thought we were talking about the minimal amount of protection you'd do full contact sparring with? Well I would not do full contact sparring unless I had gloves and gum shield. But I would still spar if I didn't have shin/foot pads, groin guard, head guard or chest guard. I'd prefer to wear shin/feet and groin guard. But I'd prefer not to wear a head guard and would never wear a chest guard even if given the choice. Thats my own personal preference. TaeKyon - Oh you are totally right, using your toes is really bad. But out of all the injuries I've ever had, I've crunched my toes the most. Maybe that says I have bad form. But even if you have your foot pointed in perfect position its still easily possible to crunch them if you get your aim even slightly wrong. Maybe thats just me. And... Have you ever seen someones eye after being toe gouged? Total yuckness... Speaking of excessive amounts of protection. Have you guys seen those full body suits? Those are so much fun...
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:08 am
I personally hate those chest protector things. They're big, bulky, and still won't help you that much if a really hard kick is coming at you. Mind you- I hardly do full contact sparring, so that's definitely a part of it.
Besides, they just slow me down. I'd rather dodge a kick than have enough protection to take one.
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:16 pm
darkphoenix1247 Besides, they just slow me down. I'd rather dodge a kick than have enough protection to take one. +1 Fullcontact sparring without chestpads is good for that But as TaeKyon said, if they require chestpads in competition, you better train with them too.
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:26 am
Soul Fighters Leg Kicks darkphoenix1247 Besides, they just slow me down. I'd rather dodge a kick than have enough protection to take one. +1 Fullcontact sparring without chestpads is good for that But as TaeKyon said, if they require chestpads in competition, you better train with them too. Oh hell yeah. Same with head guards. Being wrapped in plastic really does effect your stamina
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:04 am
Btw, you shouldn't kick an elbow if you're kicking right
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:21 am
darkphoenix1247 I personally hate those chest protector things. They're big, bulky, and still won't help you that much if a really hard kick is coming at you. Mind you- I hardly do full contact sparring, so that's definitely a part of it. Besides, they just slow me down. I'd rather dodge a kick than have enough protection to take one. The hogu isn't a like a fluffy pillow strapped to your chest, you're still going to feel most of the impact of a kick and considering the speed and power a good tkd athlete can generate in a kick, compounded over three rounds, and usually over 4 to 5 matches depending on the tournament, those hogus definitely matter. As for slowing you down, you're either not used to them or not properly fitted. WTF TKD has some of the fastest footwork of all the martial arts, which wouldn't make sense if those hogus were such a burden to the speed of good tkd fighters. Moreover, even WITH the hogus on, it's better to evade and counter; it's WTF TKD 101 and if you're being told or taught otherwise, you're not learning competitive tkd.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:51 am
Soul Fighters Leg Kicks Btw, you shouldn't kick an elbow if you're kicking right During TKD days, with special emphasis on points. I.E. It didn't matter if your leg was travelling upwards at the point of impact, just that you hit. If I did it these days, I'd probably slap myself xd Do you kick higher than waist height at all?
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