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[9]Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders [10]nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. [11]And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 (NIV)

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It is strictly written that homosexuals will not take part in the kingdom of heaven. Just saying "Jesus loves me", will not save you from the lake of fire. I urge all of you not to follow false doctrine that people have a chance to sneak sin into heaven.

And yes, homosexuals can indeed change. I, as well as many I've heard of and have met, can testify to this. There have been way too many conversions to believe some people can't divert themselves from sinful habits. Anyone can overcome sin. What you need is God's touch to get you through it. Praise God, he can deliver us through such an enormous obsticle.

This topic really shouldn't be an argument when it is so boldly stated, but at the same time, many do not know about the the mental and physical threats homosexuality can bring upon a person. That's why God has condemned it. He wants to keep us safe and healthy.

In case anyone doesn't realize this, everyone has this issue with homosexuality. Homosexuals are not alone, or are a special case, even thought they may think so. In reality, people have occasional moments where they 'check out' an individual of the same sex. It's whether you expand on that small slip-up is what makes the difference between a homosexual and a straight person. This proves homosexuality is a lifestyle choice.

Believe me, guys. Anyone can change. I have expeience on such a field. I was once bi, but I was delivered by the love of God. If I, along with thousands of others can do it, so can you. :')

I could not have said it better...I needed to read that again.

I have always taken the bolded and italicized words to mean that, through the salvation that comes from Jesus' death, God no longer sees our sins, but sees us as perfect. This selection also says nothing like, "but you stopped sinning," therefore I think that, if one is a Christian, one will go to heaven no matter what one's personal vices are.

I am jumping into this a bit later, it would seem, but from my understanding of scripture, homosexuality is no worse to God than any other kind of sexual sin (ie, fornication, adultery, etc). Any kind of sex outside the boundaries of a marriage between a man and a woman is sexual sin.

God wants us to be pure so for those who are unmarried that means abstinence regardless of whether you are drawn to males or females and for those married, it means keeping sex sacred between just you and your spouse.

At one of the churches I used to attend, we regularly got a speaker named Joe Dallas in. He was great and very committed to the Lord but for a time he got drawn into homosexuality even while married. He has written some books on the subjects, though it was some time ago and I can't remember the titles (sorry).

When I was younger, I lived a very loose life, even when I had become saved cus I just didn't get proper discipleship and thus lived the way I knew how. Jesus will never give up on you. The Holy Spirit can give you the strength to step away from sexual sin. But it is a day-by-day, cross-carrying type of journey. You will stumble in thought if not in action, but just keep on getting back up, asking His forgiveness, and moving on.

I believe that it is those so-called Christians who profess by mouth their salvation but then go on living an unrepentant sinful lifestyle that will have much to answer for. Paul says having His grace does not mean license to sin. Those will be the folks who cry Lord Lord and Jesus says I never knew you. As for the unsaved, it makes little difference to God what their sins are if they die unforgiven. God does not measure sin the way we do. He is just that holy.

Hope that helps and keep on keepin' on (now that saying is sure to show my age, is't it?)

AutumnCat

You know, it's tough sometimes to properly extract from God's word without coloring it with our own values. I do believe marriage is meant to be between one woman and one man cus it is how Go designed it in Eden, even if the word marriage was not mentioned directly. It is moreso developed in Genesis though and later with Exodus and such in regards to the behaviour of Abram/Abraham and also Moses.

With Abraham and the following generations in regards to their business of following other people's and taking more than one wife. Moses stating that God did not want divorce but allowed Moses to allow it because of th hardness of men's hearts cus if they did not want to keep their wives they could declare her unfaithful, whether or not she was, and then either send her back to her family in shame or even have her stoned to death.

And later Jesus speaks about if a man marries a woman who was divorced for any reason other than adultery that he has now committed adultery with her cus she is still the other man's wife. And in Paul's epistles, he expands that the only other reason other than adultery allowed for divorce was if a person's spouse was an unbeliever and packed up and left. But if the unbeliever is willing to stay married then the unbelief alone is not a reason for divorce.

All this summed, Scripture always speaks of marriage in terms of man and woman. And of course the whole story of Sodom and Gomorrah too. Scripture even states that the act of sodomy is forbidden even between man and wife. (You learn something new everyday...I just read that the toerh day while reading The One Year Bible for Women, my goal this year to actually read the Bible cover to cover..I am behind in daily reading s though on account of sickness running through the family.)

Oh, I don't remember who said the Bible says babies born out of wedlock are abominations. I would be very interested in the Scripture reference if you would not mind.

Thanks for the not-old remark too! Although if 70's work the way 40's do, I am sure that by the time I am in my 70's I will still feel young at heart even if the body is sagging and creaky! But thanks! I am enjoying the dialog here better than with most so-called adult ones. I may not agree with every point made here, but you all do present good arguments and thoughtful responses..I amvery impressed with you all!

Well, gotta go, my son just walked in the door from a fight with his dad about grades and whatnot. Pray for him, guys/gals, will ya? I know school is a lot harder these days than when I went.

Bye for now!
AutumnCat

The Bible does refer to life as a test 3nodding and that the Lord never tests you with something that is beyond your ability to handle with the holy spirit. Reguardless, this does not mean all the tests are easy sweatdrop

I am a reformed bisexual. I am not going to hell for the nature I refuse to feed.

Yes, sin seperates us from God. But, if we repent, and don't pick it up again, we are saved.

Just the same, if a homosexual is saved, and does his/her best to live a godly life and loves Christ, he/she will go to heaven.