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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:52 am
faolan Shoujo Kakumei J-chan Salvia trips tend to scare the hell out of me, so when I do it, I take a Valium/Xanax first and/or smoke some Blue Lotus preemptively.. And I stick to 5x extract or regular dried leaves. Stronger extracts ******** with my head WAY too much and I usually end up in a fetal position until it's over and I pass out. I'm paranoid and panicky on hallucinogens in general, though. x_X That's a little reassuring to me, actually, to know I'm not the only ball of nerves around here! sweatdrop
Though whether I'll be allowed Xanax again, I can't say... I ah... have a tendency toward depression now and then, too... long story.
How high a dose do you take, anyway (if I can ask -- just curious, and all)? My prescription was .5mg, and one or two pills was almost always enough to derail a panic attack if I took it early enough, but my memory didn't black out until like 8 pills (4mg) or more... I know, I'm a lightweight! o_O;
*Note to those reading: Xanax (alprazolam) is a tranq, but in higher doses also shuts down your memory (like completely), thus its popularity as that 'date rape drug' you've probably seen on the news.When the hell did Xanax become a date rape drug. Only GHB and roofies are around here in that mind set.
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:36 pm
RaveKitten13 faolan Shoujo Kakumei J-chan Salvia trips tend to scare the hell out of me, so when I do it, I take a Valium/Xanax first and/or smoke some Blue Lotus preemptively.. And I stick to 5x extract or regular dried leaves. Stronger extracts ******** with my head WAY too much and I usually end up in a fetal position until it's over and I pass out. I'm paranoid and panicky on hallucinogens in general, though. x_X That's a little reassuring to me, actually, to know I'm not the only ball of nerves around here! sweatdrop
Though whether I'll be allowed Xanax again, I can't say... I ah... have a tendency toward depression now and then, too... long story.
How high a dose do you take, anyway (if I can ask -- just curious, and all)? My prescription was .5mg, and one or two pills was almost always enough to derail a panic attack if I took it early enough, but my memory didn't black out until like 8 pills (4mg) or more... I know, I'm a lightweight! o_O;
*Note to those reading: Xanax (alprazolam) is a tranq, but in higher doses also shuts down your memory (like completely), thus its popularity as that 'date rape drug' you've probably seen on the news.When the hell did Xanax become a date rape drug. Only GHB and roofies are around here in that mind set. When guy A found the skillz to do so to girl B wink
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:26 pm
I just remembered. Apparently, salvia is an NMDA receptor antagonist (dissociative). Probably why not a lot of first time trippers enjoy it much? (I know that most people dislike dissociatives, viewing them as just too powerful of a trip.)
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:46 pm
I thought many people don't like it their first time because the trip is so intense.
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:53 pm
I didn't like it because it always made my skin hurt, and my body feel uncomfortable.
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:42 pm
ForeverMusing I didn't like it because it always made my skin hurt, and my body feel uncomfortable. Did you trip? Like 100% full visuals, or at least fractaling shapes... I almost got to try DMT, the "N,N-DMT" and found out it was actually 5-MeO-DMT before I got it. So I asked whats the difference, and she told me this one is just as intense, but without this visuals. I said no way Jose, then she slapped me and said "Don't call me Jose!' How much Salvia did you smoke?
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:07 pm
So no say on my experience? We have listed trips of seeing everthing turned 2-D, scaring the hell out of one person (many people too), One where things just fugged up and the feeling around the body wasn't pleasant (pain), kaleidoscope vision (which is what I first thought I had but then noticed the paterns).
All in all I wouldn't do it if I felt pain from it, where is the point in doing it then? Also how intense it is; the feeling, visuals, mind state of panic, makes many people feel that they "did it" and killed themselves. That was all I could come up with while it happened because it wasn't supposed to last so long, but to my conscious self it was a hell of a lot longer then a few minutes.
A time I tried Salvia probably four months I ate some very strong mushrooms , so strong I started to get that same feeling from Salvia but slower going into the trip. Though I didn't have the same trip I thought I did it that time and thought my sanity would be lost forever. At first though I was happy because I could think in different ways (different ways of thinking besides my own), but it got out of hand and I couldn't stay on one type of thought form. People think differently from one another, so I could relate it to that, but no control =/. That and an Angel appeared to me that didn't look like your classic angel but somehow I knew it was I guess, and it told me I had to choose, and I kept telling it I don't want to!! Then to be thrown into extreme states of joy and pain. Tv starts to talk to you using your name and you are full aware of it. Then again your on mushrooms, so WTH is that!?
Salvia is unique and only has a compound that makes you hallucinate not like anything else on earth. Mushrooms Chemical Formula has light(O-phosphoryl)+substance commonly fond on objects from space, and N,N,DMT (Naturally occurring substance found in some plants and your brain).
Has anyone seen this type of photography, I forget the name (something with dilbert in the name) where they take a plate and put electricity throught it, have an item on it and take the picture. You can see its aura or something like that. Cooked food has less then fresh or living food, people who have their hands on it and think good thoughts towards earch other have electricity going towards each other, negetive thoughts away. Mushroom is uber cool looking through it. Any one know the name??
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:23 pm
Your thinking Kirlian Photography. Dilbert  Here is a pic...  Ah so much shown here. Like a picture is worth a thousand words. ^_~
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:15 pm
girlfirend ForeverMusing I didn't like it because it always made my skin hurt, and my body feel uncomfortable. Did you trip? Like 100% full visuals, or at least fractaling shapes... I almost got to try DMT, the "N,N-DMT" and found out it was actually 5-MeO-DMT before I got it. So I asked whats the difference, and she told me this one is just as intense, but without this visuals. I said no way Jose, then she slapped me and said "Don't call me Jose!' How much Salvia did you smoke? Um, a full bowl of xxx, through repeated puffs. And yes, I did get visuals and all.
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:50 am
You'll never get to heaven... Last time I did salvia was with my boyfriend, his best friend, and HIS girl. >> It nearly ended up in a foursome. xD You still can't say 'Prom' around Aaron without his "I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT'
...If you're afraid to get high.
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:54 pm
I've never tried salvia myself but I have seen someone do it and it looks like he went absolutely retarded so i've never really wanted to try it since but if anyone has had any good experiences they could share it might persuade me smile .
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:46 am
Maybe when I have a spare hunk of cash I'll try it.
Is the smoke really harsh? I have trouble with marijuana smoke so will I even be able to smoke salvia? Or will it just waste my money?
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:28 am
Psychedelic Pirate Maybe when I have a spare hunk of cash I'll try it. Is the smoke really harsh? I have trouble with marijuana smoke so will I even be able to smoke salvia? Or will it just waste my money? You can't approach Salvia like it's a toy. If you want to have a good time, smoke weed, or get drunk, or something. If you want to go on a journey to Candyland, drop acid. If you want to blow your mind and completely shift your entire perspective on the universe in a fifteen minute period, smoke salvia. Salvia is not a recreational "party drug." It's a meditative herb for spiritual and mental exploration. It's NOT fun and if you're expecting it to be, then you'll be sorely disappointed. Its legality, its easy distribution, and the fascination of youth with anything mind-altering has given rise to myths that it's either "legal weed" or "sorta like acid." It's not like any of these at all. It's a complete shift in consciousness that's not for kids to jerk around with trying to get high. From a shamanic perspective should be used more for a coming of age, then after that its exploration. I think Terence Mckenna said it best; "My notion of what the psychedelic experience is for, is that we each must become like fisherman, and go out onto the dark ocean of mind, and let your nets down into that sea. And what your after, is not some behemoth that will tare through your nets; foul them, and drag you and your little boat into the abyss. Nor are what we looking for a bunch of sardines that can slip through your net, and disappear. Ideas like 'have you ever noticed that your little finger exactly fits your nostril,' and stuff like that. What we are looking for are middle sized ideas that are not so small that they are trivial, and not so large that they are incomprehensible, but middle sized ideas that we can wrestle into our boat, and take back to the folks on shore, and have fish dinner. Everyone of us when we go into the psychedelic state, this is what we should be looking for. Its not for your elucidation, its not apart of your self directed psychotherapy. You are an explorer, and you represent our species. And the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea because our world is in dangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crises because of the absence of conciseness. Anyone of us can bring back a small piece of the picture, and contribute it to the building of the new paradigm. Then we participate in the redemption of the human spirit, and that after all is what its really what its all about." Also you should do your homework before you experiment with anything. People die this way. "Die before you Die so when you Die you won't die" -Submit to ego-death
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:30 pm
Kureyan Psychedelic Pirate Maybe when I have a spare hunk of cash I'll try it. Is the smoke really harsh? I have trouble with marijuana smoke so will I even be able to smoke salvia? Or will it just waste my money? You can't approach Salvia like it's a toy. If you want to have a good time, smoke weed, or get drunk, or something. If you want to go on a journey to Candyland, drop acid. If you want to blow your mind and completely shift your entire perspective on the universe in a fifteen minute period, smoke salvia. Thanks for the warning but I am quite aware of this. If I want a party drug, I'll have some MDMA. But partying isn't what I'm interested in here. It's exploring other universes/dimensions.
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:43 pm
Psychedelic Pirate Kureyan Psychedelic Pirate Maybe when I have a spare hunk of cash I'll try it. Is the smoke really harsh? I have trouble with marijuana smoke so will I even be able to smoke salvia? Or will it just waste my money? You can't approach Salvia like it's a toy. If you want to have a good time, smoke weed, or get drunk, or something. If you want to go on a journey to Candyland, drop acid. If you want to blow your mind and completely shift your entire perspective on the universe in a fifteen minute period, smoke salvia. Thanks for the warning but I am quite aware of this. If I want a party drug, I'll have some MDMA. But partying isn't what I'm interested in here. It's exploring other universes/dimensions. Rock on!
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