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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:33 pm
Neither had I, communally, but I did have Jewish friends. They were the ones who encouraged me to learn more after showing interest in converting. (It wasn't them, just to make that clear. It was a personal thing.)
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:39 pm
I didn't have Jewish friends. In fact, the only other Jewish family where I grew up hated my family. And the only other Jew at college distances himself from the community as much as possible and decided not to like me.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:32 pm
Errr, I seem to be running into some difficulties (so fast!), would any of you fine Jews be willing to speak on AIM (much faster for me to ask questions there)?
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:15 pm
I am without AIM... but I await your next question.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:22 pm
Well, my main problem at the moment isn't quite a question. It's that my family doesn't observe, and are wanting me to do a great many things on saturday, including practicing driving, going to a concert, and cooking.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:11 pm
Dis Domnu Well, my main problem at the moment isn't quite a question. It's that my family doesn't observe, and are wanting me to do a great many things on saturday, including practicing driving, going to a concert, and cooking. Aah... welcome to my world. Mind you I'm prolly twice your age, but I have a crippled father and an old mother and I have to help out, but yes, I'm 30 and still live with my parents. My mom will wake me up on saturday and inform me that I need to go do stuff, and I do. Less of a hastle, less of an argument. I remember the sabbath and keep it holy by honoring my mother and father. I acknowledge I have to live under their roof and do what I am told. When I get some alone and quiet time, I open my siddur and rest in quiet meditation. Then I hop online and chat with you people. My mom doesn't think I'm that religious because I don't go to Shul or Temple or anything like that. No one in my family practices judaism anymore. I'm the only one in my family who actually has a siddur in his bedroom and has teffilin and a havdalah set. Trust me, once I get in to college, out of state, I will pack my bags and disappear into the night. I'm not gonna move out, I'm gonna escape. However I feel that my mother is trying to keep me here because I'm the only one who can help, but that's another story. Once I'm on my own again, I will do sabbath prayers and hold dinners and invite the neighbors in and all that jazz. But for now, I bide my time and learn all I can, and teach others what I know.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:25 pm
Heh. I'm sure my family wouldn't care if I told them no, but it would be the no that would bug me. Last time I mentioned doing anything Jewish (I asked for more kosher food) my mom responded with a "Huh, when did you become so religious? You'll eat what we have". I get kosher food now, when I can, but it was a hassle getting it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:32 pm
Well you could always become blatently obnoxious.
Wake up at dawn, face to Jerusalem and start davining... loudly.
And if they interupt you, ya start over.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:36 pm
Nah. I don't want to be inconsiderate to them, I just want them to be considerate of me.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:45 pm
Question: I know cooking is not allowed on Shabbat, but can someone else (a non-Jew) cook for you? And can you prepare foods (like a cold sandwich) that don't involve cooking?
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:56 pm
Dis Domnu Question: I know cooking is not allowed on Shabbat, but can someone else (a non-Jew) cook for you? And can you prepare foods (like a cold sandwich) that don't involve cooking? Ahh, well depending on the interpretion, and if you have an available Shabbas-Goy (Yes there were non jews hired out to jews to do things like cook and turn on lights. Elvis Presley was one, it's true!) You're not supposed to kindle a flame on Shabbat. Strict interpretation anything that involves an energy source is right out. However, you can keep a flame going as long as you want. Setting the oven on friday afternoon and letting it run until saturday night is one way of getting around this problem. And then there's the wonderful world of Cholent. The traditional jewish beef stew that you cook and let simmer for 24 hours. An electric crock pot is ideal for this. Here's a recipe for ya. http://www.recipezaar.com/78732That's right, all this and the boy can cook too.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:57 pm
LordNeuf Well you could always become blatently obnoxious. Wake up at dawn, face to Jerusalem and start davining... loudly. And if they interupt you, ya start over. *Takes notes* Anything else? xd For the most part my parents are pretty understanding, but I haven't told the rest of my family (who are baptist and religious). They probably won't take it well that I want to marry a Jew and not believe Jesus is the messiah, because it will give them less ways to bug me. For instance, they can't set me up with so and so's son who's going to be a doctor...AND GOES TO CHURCH. My grandmother is just so hell bent on breaking me of my "heathen ways". It's pretty interesting... As far as I know, you can make food before Shabbat begins, and eat it once sundown comes...I'm not really sure a non-Jew can make your food though, because I think that would break a kosher rule, but don't quote me.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:03 pm
kingpinsqeezels As far as I know, you can make food before Shabbat begins, and eat it once sundown comes...I'm not really sure a non-Jew can make your food though, because I think that would break a kosher rule, but don't quote me. Yeah but you can't open the fridge, it will turn on the lightbulb! Yeah, I know I don't practice those ways anymore.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:07 pm
LordNeuf kingpinsqeezels As far as I know, you can make food before Shabbat begins, and eat it once sundown comes...I'm not really sure a non-Jew can make your food though, because I think that would break a kosher rule, but don't quote me. Yeah but you can't open the fridge, it will turn on the lightbulb! Yeah, I know I don't practice those ways anymore. Yeah, but dude, you can unscrew that light bulb and BAM, problem solved. I thought Elvis was jewish though...so how could he be a Shabbas Goy?
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:10 pm
He wasn't jewish, he was definetly christian, I'm not sure what denomination, but considering the amount of Gospel songs he did, he's definetly was christian.
Kinky Friedman and The Texas Jewboys on the other hand...
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