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 Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:49 am
themeanypoet God is unchanging and why should His rules be changing? He loves you deeply and will forgive you when you repent. The sexual orientation itself is not sin but the act or practice of homosexuality is sin. And I agree with Emikay. And btw, considering homosexual practices a sin is NOT an opinion; it is God's will for you not to sin and not to practice homosexuality. The books of the Bible are translated just as they were literally. Thousands of scholars research and carefully look over the Word; why would they make a mistake? The writers of the Bible carefully wrote down every word; the Jewish people had to wash their hands EVERY TIME they wrote down "God." Why would they make a mistake when they follow God's rules so carefully. wait what? God is unchanging? thats kinda how Christianity came about
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:23 pm
Yes everyone will sin, but since we're forgiven does that give us a license to sin? As the Paul says," GOD FORBID!" Sis I love you and I mean that! But homosexuality is a sin. If you don't believe me ask GOD, HE said it not me. Its in HIS book not mine. Sis I love you and I'm just helping you out.
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:44 pm
I was reading some earlier posts, and it sounded that people were fighting over what the bible says.....
Yes, your sins can be forgiven, but that doesnt mean you should sin.
I also agree with the person who said (sorry i cant remember names) that God made it so there is one man and one woman.
I dont want to make whoever is bi mad and hurt and angry or whatever, but i believe that being bisexual is wrong, and you should ask for forgiveness, and God will willingly forgive you
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:58 pm
I've been a Christian for two years. I don't put the "bisexual" label on me, but I do face bisexual attraction, and I can tell how difficult it is to live with it. Before I was a Christian I held homosexual relations, of which I'm now repented. However, sometimes I still feel the flesh and Satan calling me back to those patterns of sinfulness. I can't say I've beaten it: what I have stopped doing is acting upon my bisexual desires, although I still have those desires. As they say, being tempted is not a sin: Giving in to temptation is what constitutes the sin.
Sometimes these temptations are strong enough as to get me depressed, and more when not a lot of people know I had homosexual relations before coming to Christ... I really guess it would help me if I told someone about it, yet there's almost no one by my side that I could trust this to. The Christian life itself is difficult, and facing bisexual attraction at the same time is like going through hell. Nevertheless, there are times when I feel incredibly happy in the Lord, just as I've served Him through preaching, helping others, etc.
I say again... yes, bisexual and homosexual actions are sinful... homosexual and bisexual attraction, however are not. Yes, you can be forgiven by God if you have fallen under sinful bisexual patterns, but you must fight fiercely not to fall again. Hold to the promises of God. Remember God will not let you be tempted more than you can resist (don't let Satan deceive you through thinking that you can't resist this bisexual attraction: It IS possible to resist it). Be an active member of a Christian church, because Christian fellowship IS really important when one is dealing with homosexual or bisexual attraction.
I will be praying for you as well.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:38 pm
-Nexius I- I've been a Christian for two years. I don't put the "bisexual" label on me, but I do face bisexual attraction, and I can tell how difficult it is to live with it. Before I was a Christian I held homosexual relations, of which I'm now repented. However, sometimes I still feel the flesh and Satan calling me back to those patterns of sinfulness. I can't say I've beaten it: what I have stopped doing is acting upon my bisexual desires, although I still have those desires. As they say, being tempted is not a sin: Giving in to temptation is what constitutes the sin.
Sometimes these temptations are strong enough as to get me depressed, and more when not a lot of people know I had homosexual relations before coming to Christ... I really guess it would help me if I told someone about it, yet there's almost no one by my side that I could trust this to. The Christian life itself is difficult, and facing bisexual attraction at the same time is like going through hell. Nevertheless, there are times when I feel incredibly happy in the Lord, just as I've served Him through preaching, helping others, etc.
I say again... yes, bisexual and homosexual actions are sinful... homosexual and bisexual attraction, however are not. Yes, you can be forgiven by God if you have fallen under sinful bisexual patterns, but you must fight fiercely not to fall again. Hold to the promises of God. Remember God will not let you be tempted more than you can resist (don't let Satan deceive you through thinking that you can't resist this bisexual attraction: It IS possible to resist it). Be an active member of a Christian church, because Christian fellowship IS really important when one is dealing with homosexual or bisexual attraction.
I will be praying for you as well. Two years Now I understand
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:01 pm
BR33 that's definitely not true. As long as you have GOD, HE forgives every sin. Whether it's something you've done in the past, you're doing right now, or you will do in the future, GOD forgives them all once you've accepted HIM into your heart. nothing you could do, would stop HIM from forgiving you. so, don't believe those people who told you that. they must not have read the bible. because in the bible, in says that GOD forgives EVERYTHING. i'm sorry that i can't give you a direct verse right now, but i can't remember it at the moment. just remember that GOD loves you, and he knows that you're going to make mistakes. he knows about the ones you haven't even done yet. and he's already forgiven for those too. no sin is unforgivable in GOD's eyes. i hope that i've helped you. GOD Bless. I'm sure this isn't exactly what you were thinking, and yet, it does kind of address what you're saying. He loves us! We don't have to cower in His presence, even if we are rough around the edges or for that matter, up to our eyes in sin! "Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account. Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are–yet was without sin. Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need." (Hebrews 4:13-16 NIV)
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:19 pm
Quote: you are truly bisexual you shouldn't feel any shame about it. Shame over something can actually be a huge blessing! I am speaking from a Christian perspective, so I respectfully (hopefully it is seen that way) interject. Often, shame is the first step in us acknowledging that something inside of us isn't quite right. This is the foundation of a relationship with God...we must be aware that we're not exactly just fine the way we are! You've heard the message of the Gospel called the "Good News"? That's cuz there's bad news. We're messed up and in trouble! Quote: Ignore those who put you down and shut you out, Heaven forbid you are being put down and bullied here! If so, shame on all of us Christians! Jesus would NOT approve. There is a difference in disagreeing with someone and putting them down and bullying though and I would hope we're all mature and civil enough to just be able to talk regardless of whether or not we're all on the same page. Quote: using religion as a front for bullying you for being different. Sad but often times true! Quote: Why should something that happens naturally be regarded as a sin? Plenty of things that are just part of our nature are destructive and in need of a little fine tuning! As Jesus once said, "It is the sick that need a doctor". If we were all just fine we woudn't have any need for Jesus...again, I'm speaking from a Christian perspective and you may disagree with that line of thinking, which is absolutely your right! Much of what we say as believers sounds kind of silly! Quote: If you continue to find closed minded individuals blocking your path, then perhaps you should branch out and look at other faiths and ways of life. I'm assuming since she's posting here she is wanting to hear this with the understanding that she will be getting a Christian perspective. woah. did I say "Christian perspective" enough times? sorry. redface
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:30 pm
Pokegirl Princess Lolicat Emikay I don't mean to be a party pooper. But there is biblical evidence that homosexual relations and desires are viewed as sexually immoral by God. He made woman for man, as they are perfect compliments. That's why he didn't say, "Oh Adam, you're so lonely, well here ... um, here's Billy."
All sin is forgiven through Jesus, so belief in Jesus will still bring you salvation. But 1 John 3:6 says, "No one who lives in him keeps on sinning, No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him."
If the Bible hints towards disapproval of homesexuality, and you truly love God, why would you even want to risk displeasing him? Even if we are forgiven, wouldn't you want to do everything you can to please God, to make him happy?
Just something to chew. Not trying to condescend on you or be rude or judgemental (it's not my place to judge, it's His) but you asked for opinions and that is mine. You're judging by proxy, which is just as bad- worse in fact, because you're using something that girl believes in to put her down. Supposedly Jesus abolished most of the rules laid down in the Old Testament. John isn't the most trustworthy gospel either: seeing as he spent half the book slating Judaism, might it not show he wasn't too far forward on the liberal front? (Matthew 5:16-19 NIV)
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:59 pm
Well, no matter what, God loves you for you.
He forgives all sins.
So, be proud of your sexual orientation.
If someone can't accept you for that, then that is their issue.
And if anyone tells you that:
"Oh, it's a sin, you'll burn in hell for eternity."
or whatever, just don't listen.
They're not the ones to judge.
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:46 pm
I dont think it matters what kind of Sin youve commited....ive never heard a christian say " yes,yes that serial murderer IS going to hell because God wont forive him "
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:49 am
Dcaff Pokegirl Princess Lolicat Emikay I don't mean to be a party pooper. But there is biblical evidence that homosexual relations and desires are viewed as sexually immoral by God. He made woman for man, as they are perfect compliments. That's why he didn't say, "Oh Adam, you're so lonely, well here ... um, here's Billy."
All sin is forgiven through Jesus, so belief in Jesus will still bring you salvation. But 1 John 3:6 says, "No one who lives in him keeps on sinning, No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him."
If the Bible hints towards disapproval of homesexuality, and you truly love God, why would you even want to risk displeasing him? Even if we are forgiven, wouldn't you want to do everything you can to please God, to make him happy?
Just something to chew. Not trying to condescend on you or be rude or judgemental (it's not my place to judge, it's His) but you asked for opinions and that is mine. You're judging by proxy, which is just as bad- worse in fact, because you're using something that girl believes in to put her down. Supposedly Jesus abolished most of the rules laid down in the Old Testament. John isn't the most trustworthy gospel either: seeing as he spent half the book slating Judaism, might it not show he wasn't too far forward on the liberal front? (Matthew 5:16-19 NIV) So obviously you dont Mix your threads, or eat your shellfish, or pork, and you send your woman away during her period. Oh and you also just branded Paul and John concious sinners. Go you If your going to use the Argument that ALL the Laws are still in effect, you damn well beter be eating your Kosher Food, sacrificing your Lambs and all the other stuff mentiond in the OT. If not i suggest you start repenting very very fast, and very very hard youve a lot of Sins to make up for, and a lot of work ahead of you, i for one wouldent like to tell my Mother or Wife that they have to go out the house once a month. Quote: God is unchanging and why should His rules be changing? He loves you deeply and will forgive you when you repent. The sexual orientation itself is not sin but the act or practice of homosexuality is sin. And I agree with Emikay. And btw, considering homosexual practices a sin is NOT an opinion; it is God's will for you not to sin and not to practice homosexuality. The books of the Bible are translated just as they were literally. Thousands of scholars research and carefully look over the Word; why would they make a mistake? The writers of the Bible carefully wrote down every word; the Jewish people had to wash their hands EVERY TIME they wrote down "God." Why would they make a mistake when they follow God's rules so carefully. No there not unchanging and accurate , there are so many mistranslations of the bible in every single transcription, the "only valid" bible is in the origional Greek, and "maybe" the Young Literals Translation after that. Anything else can not be acurately counted on, in some early versions of the Bible we find whole VERSES that are missed out of later editions and common versions and we all know how the changing of one word can change an entire meaning behind a vere. For example Homosexualty the word didnt exist in many versions of the bible untill the 1400's before that it had been the phrase "soft morals" ...but of course God Forbid a Human scholar could make a mistake or have his own agenda..oh no. I mean no way was the book of paul nearly all his own opinions on things...because he wasnt a Jew still getting used to the new ways and very very Religiously confused. It's very very convinient that we pick and choose certain statements of the Apostles and neatly say "oh that was probbably just there opinion...oh but that one..that one deffo the word of God..ahuh" Then we have all the books the Founding Council decided they didnt need to include for whatever reason, they could have Containd accounts of Jesus and John's sexual liasons and nights on the town for all we know. Dont you DARE to say that the NT is Perfect, or unchanged by the hand of man it is far from that, and your an idiot to belive anything differant. Only the Muslims have a track record that good, we really should have done it the same way they did, not a single word changed or edited from the Origional Greek and ONLY allow the origional Greek to be counted in serious Debate over wording. Not like our NT and Bible with well over Five hundred Versions As for you saying God's rules are Unchanging i direct you to Matthew 5:38 Quote: Ye have heard that it hath been said An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil, but whoever shall smite thee on the right cheek turn to him the other also 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also So yea, four pages into the NT you just got prooved wrong, Sermon on the Mount ftw.
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:53 am
DayofDance Well, no matter what, God loves you for you.
He forgives all sins.
So, be proud of your sexual orientation.
If someone can't accept you for that, then that is their issue.
And if anyone tells you that:
"Oh, it's a sin, you'll burn in hell for eternity."
or whatever, just don't listen.
They're not the ones to judge.
But they state that God wants them to judge others. That it's "correcting" the problem. In reality Matthew 7:1-2 states it best. "Judge not lest ye be judged. If you judge someone else with your measure then you will be judged using the same measure that you used" (Of course I'm paraphrasing it.)
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:37 am
You cant help being who you are. Its not your fault as you didnt do anything wrong, you were born like that.
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:07 pm
If your worried about it, Pray.
it's nice to look to others for advice, but are you looking to the right people?
Ask your pastor. Read the bible. Pray to the Lord. That is all the advice I can give you. (since this is an ADVICE forum, not an OPINION forum)
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:10 pm
Btw, if you'd like my opinion on this, or want an unjudging ear to rant in, PM me. I love to talk. Especially about my faith. ^w^ (no flaming plz!)
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