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 Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:11 pm
Fushigi na Butterfly Lethkhar Lady of Serenity Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here I'm glad no-one else is, being a Pagan and taking Christian foundations, doesn't make you a Christian warlock, it makes you a Warlock with Christian morals, becuase you don't recieve the salvation of Christ. Please don't judge others. Could we have more information on Christian Warlocks, please? I was about to say sorry before what I typed, but it wouldn't be true. I agree with Type Text Here. He's not trying to judge this person, but you can't be a Christian Warlock. Any other type of power besides that of God has to be of darkness ( aka demonic. ) There are no in-between grays. Either it's of God or its not. It's not being judgmental, it's merely the truth. When we try to water down what we believe in order to make others happy and feel like what they're doing is right, we're compromising our faith, and in essence...saying that God isn't important enough to stand up for even when others don't like what has to be said, and is the truth. I don't hate the person that's saying they're a Christian Warlock, or think they're a bad person. I'm just saying they're misled in what they believe, and I say that not because I'm offended ( I'll admit it does kinda suck when others don't take God as seriously as they should ), but because it doesn't align with the Word of God itself, and that's what Type Text Here was getting at. Maybe the person did accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, but that's not the issue at hand. xd So yeah, I kind of had to state my point here. Feel free to correct me if anyone sees something wrong or whatever, and I wasn't trying to come off as mean, just honest. May I step in here and ask who are you to judge what God considers a "good" Christian or not? But I'm sure we've both learned that everything in the Bible is up to interpretation. Are you the perfect interpretor?
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:39 am
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here I'm glad no-one else is, being a Pagan and taking Christian foundations, doesn't make you a Christian warlock, it makes you a Warlock with Christian morals, becuase you don't recieve the salvation of Christ. Please don't judge others. Could we have more information on Christian Warlocks, please? Pah, your link full of opinionated comments, you can not claim a curse from the lord as being evil sorcery, that would require Paul or Peter to have power that is external of God. They simple asked God to curse them, Elija does it as well. Basically, don't mess with God. =/ If you want to know information about it, lets take wiccan and stuff into a Christian shaped box, and then you have Christian Warlocks. Beside all that, I'm not being Judgemental, the bible is: Lev 20:27 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' Before someone screams that was old testiment and doesn't apply: Galatians 5:19-20 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions serial_killer101 A spell is a prayer used to get a task done, not Magick can be used for the purpose of God, and to help others gain the knowlage of Jesus Christ. Intrest but wrong. Prayer (n): a devout petition to God or an object of worship. AKA: Talking to God. Spell (n): a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation: The wizard cast a spell. Which would mean if you pray you'd have to say a serise of phrase, or a form for God to do anything, and a spell requires that the words have the power, not the God. Rom 1:16 the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. ^---Tis what is used for salvation.
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:18 am
Type Text Here Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here I'm glad no-one else is, being a Pagan and taking Christian foundations, doesn't make you a Christian warlock, it makes you a Warlock with Christian morals, becuase you don't recieve the salvation of Christ. Please don't judge others. Could we have more information on Christian Warlocks, please? Pah, your link full of opinionated comments, you can not claim a curse from the lord as being evil sorcery, that would require Paul or Peter to have power that is external of God. They simple asked God to curse them, Elija does it as well. Basically, don't mess with God. =/ If you want to know information about it, lets take wiccan and stuff into a Christian shaped box, and then you have Christian Warlocks. Beside all that, I'm not being Judgemental, the bible is: Lev 20:27 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' Before someone screams that was old testiment and doesn't apply: Galatians 5:19-20 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions serial_killer101 A spell is a prayer used to get a task done, not Magick can be used for the purpose of God, and to help others gain the knowlage of Jesus Christ. Intrest but wrong. Prayer (n): a devout petition to God or an object of worship. AKA: Talking to God. Spell (n): a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation: The wizard cast a spell. Which would mean if you pray you'd have to say a serise of phrase, or a form for God to do anything, and a spell requires that the words have the power, not the God. Rom 1:16 the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. ^---Tis what is used for salvation. YEs but in use of a spell your asking for power from the Divine, now We all know God has Power that he can let us use.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:52 am
Type Text Here Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here I'm glad no-one else is, being a Pagan and taking Christian foundations, doesn't make you a Christian warlock, it makes you a Warlock with Christian morals, becuase you don't recieve the salvation of Christ. Please don't judge others. Could we have more information on Christian Warlocks, please? Pah, your link full of opinionated comments, you can not claim a curse from the lord as being evil sorcery, that would require Paul or Peter to have power that is external of God. They simple asked God to curse them, Elija does it as well. Basically, don't mess with God. =/ If you want to know information about it, lets take wiccan and stuff into a Christian shaped box, and then you have Christian Warlocks. If you want to know information about Christianity, let's take paganism and stuff into a Jewish shaped box. It's not that simple. Quote: Beside all that, I'm not being Judgemental, the bible is: Lev 20:27 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' Before someone screams that was old testiment and doesn't apply: Galatians 5:19-20 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions The Greek word "pharmakos" which appears in Galatians 5:20 refers to poisoners. It was mis-translated as witchcraft in the King James Version. Since no modern-day Pagan, Neopagan or occultic activity engages in killing people by poison, the verse does not refer in any way to Wicca, other Neopagans or Occultists. Quote: serial_killer101 A spell is a prayer used to get a task done, not Magick can be used for the purpose of God, and to help others gain the knowlage of Jesus Christ. Intrest but wrong. Prayer (n): a devout petition to God or an object of worship. AKA: Talking to God. Spell (n): a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation: The wizard cast a spell. A word, in everyday usage, is what the person saying it says it is. Serial_killer101 seems to be referring to exactly the same type of prayer used by Peter, Paul, and Elijah.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:09 pm
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here I'm glad no-one else is, being a Pagan and taking Christian foundations, doesn't make you a Christian warlock, it makes you a Warlock with Christian morals, becuase you don't recieve the salvation of Christ. Please don't judge others. Could we have more information on Christian Warlocks, please? Pah, your link full of opinionated comments, you can not claim a curse from the lord as being evil sorcery, that would require Paul or Peter to have power that is external of God. They simple asked God to curse them, Elija does it as well. Basically, don't mess with God. =/ If you want to know information about it, lets take wiccan and stuff into a Christian shaped box, and then you have Christian Warlocks. If you want to know information about Christianity, let's take paganism and stuff into a Jewish shaped box. It's not that simple. Quote: Beside all that, I'm not being Judgemental, the bible is: Lev 20:27 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' Before someone screams that was old testiment and doesn't apply: Galatians 5:19-20 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions The Greek word "pharmakos" which appears in Galatians 5:20 refers to poisoners. It was mis-translated as witchcraft in the King James Version. Since no modern-day Pagan, Neopagan or occultic activity engages in killing people by poison, the verse does not refer in any way to Wicca, other Neopagans or Occultists. Quote: serial_killer101 A spell is a prayer used to get a task done, not Magick can be used for the purpose of God, and to help others gain the knowlage of Jesus Christ. Intrest but wrong. Prayer (n): a devout petition to God or an object of worship. AKA: Talking to God. Spell (n): a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation: The wizard cast a spell. A word, in everyday usage, is what the person saying it says it is. Serial_killer101 seems to be referring to exactly the same type of prayer used by Peter, Paul, and Elijah. Yes..um i dont get the first part though??
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:52 pm
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here I'm glad no-one else is, being a Pagan and taking Christian foundations, doesn't make you a Christian warlock, it makes you a Warlock with Christian morals, becuase you don't recieve the salvation of Christ. Please don't judge others. Could we have more information on Christian Warlocks, please? Pah, your link full of opinionated comments, you can not claim a curse from the lord as being evil sorcery, that would require Paul or Peter to have power that is external of God. They simple asked God to curse them, Elija does it as well. Basically, don't mess with God. =/ If you want to know information about it, lets take wiccan and stuff into a Christian shaped box, and then you have Christian Warlocks. If you want to know information about Christianity, let's take paganism and stuff into a Jewish shaped box. It's not that simple. To say that states you're saying that Jesus is not real but a mixture of Pagan belief, therefore stating your not a christian I gather? And yes, with Christian Warlocks, it literally is what I said, Pagan in a Christian Shaped Box. =/ I KNOW about it, I have a friend who is one. It exactly what it seems, someone who believes in Christianity, who either believes in Pagan Gods, (normal case) Or the more 'hip' practices witchcraft, occult spells or try fluffy Wicca belief. smile Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Quote: Beside all that, I'm not being Judgemental, the bible is: Lev 20:27 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' Before someone screams that was old testiment and doesn't apply: Galatians 5:19-20 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions The Greek word "pharmakos" which appears in Galatians 5:20 refers to poisoners. It was mis-translated as witchcraft in the King James Version. Since no modern-day Pagan, Neopagan or occultic activity engages in killing people by poison, the verse does not refer in any way to Wicca, other Neopagans or Occultists. =/ It GREEK it has More than one meaning, read the verse. "Idolatry and Witchcraft" Becuase "Idolatry and Poison Inflicter, really work together. Lets get the greek word shall we? φαρμακεία (n):1) the use or the administering of drugs 2) poisoning 3) sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it Hmmmm? Doesn't take a rocketscientence to see a corrilation. I Guess that then does include Wicca, neopagans and Occultists. Beside that, pagans and Occultists never engaded or where known for poisioning people... Occultists where known for Cursing, and that about the limit of it. Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Quote: serial_killer101 A spell is a prayer used to get a task done, not Magick can be used for the purpose of God, and to help others gain the knowlage of Jesus Christ. Intrest but wrong. Prayer (n): a devout petition to God or an object of worship. AKA: Talking to God. Spell (n): a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation: The wizard cast a spell. A word, in everyday usage, is what the person saying it says it is. Serial_killer101 seems to be referring to exactly the same type of prayer used by Peter, Paul, and Elijah. Peter and Paul spoke a different language to Elijah, and no, that isn't the definition of Spell. Spell (n): a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation: The wizard cast a spell. See, that the WORDS have power NOT THE GOD.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:55 pm
serial_killer101 Type Text Here Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here I'm glad no-one else is, being a Pagan and taking Christian foundations, doesn't make you a Christian warlock, it makes you a Warlock with Christian morals, becuase you don't recieve the salvation of Christ. Please don't judge others. Could we have more information on Christian Warlocks, please? Pah, your link full of opinionated comments, you can not claim a curse from the lord as being evil sorcery, that would require Paul or Peter to have power that is external of God. They simple asked God to curse them, Elija does it as well. Basically, don't mess with God. =/ If you want to know information about it, lets take wiccan and stuff into a Christian shaped box, and then you have Christian Warlocks. Beside all that, I'm not being Judgemental, the bible is: Lev 20:27 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' Before someone screams that was old testiment and doesn't apply: Galatians 5:19-20 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions serial_killer101 A spell is a prayer used to get a task done, not Magick can be used for the purpose of God, and to help others gain the knowlage of Jesus Christ. Intrest but wrong. Prayer (n): a devout petition to God or an object of worship. AKA: Talking to God. Spell (n): a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation: The wizard cast a spell. Which would mean if you pray you'd have to say a serise of phrase, or a form for God to do anything, and a spell requires that the words have the power, not the God. Rom 1:16 the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. ^---Tis what is used for salvation. YEs but in use of a spell your asking for power from the Divine, now We all know God has Power that he can let us use. He doesn't let us use it, the holy spirit heals people, the holy spirit does it all to say that God charges your battery and then you proform the Miracle is in fact insulting and belittling God.
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:05 am
Beside that, Christian Warlock, Look at what the name really means! Gosh! It pretty much proves my point. razz
Christ - ian
Jesus Christ - Like.
War - lock
~orginally ~
wær - loga
"traitor, liar, enemy,"
Also meaning:
oath-breaker - given special application to the devil (c.1000),
one in league with the devil - is recorded from c.1300.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:16 am
surprised that does have a point
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:40 pm
Type Text Here Beside that, Christian Warlock, Look at what the name really means! Gosh! It pretty much proves my point. razz Christ - ian Jesus Christ - Like. War - lock ~orginally ~ wær - loga "traitor, liar, enemy," Also meaning: oath-breaker - given special application to the devil (c.1000), one in league with the devil - is recorded from c.1300. Cocktail. =D Refuted with a single word!
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:24 pm
Type Text Here Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here I'm glad no-one else is, being a Pagan and taking Christian foundations, doesn't make you a Christian warlock, it makes you a Warlock with Christian morals, becuase you don't recieve the salvation of Christ. Please don't judge others. Could we have more information on Christian Warlocks, please? Pah, your link full of opinionated comments, you can not claim a curse from the lord as being evil sorcery, that would require Paul or Peter to have power that is external of God. They simple asked God to curse them, Elija does it as well. Basically, don't mess with God. =/ If you want to know information about it, lets take wiccan and stuff into a Christian shaped box, and then you have Christian Warlocks. If you want to know information about Christianity, let's take paganism and stuff into a Jewish shaped box. It's not that simple. To say that states you're saying that Jesus is not real but a mixture of Pagan belief, therefore stating your not a christian I gather? No, I'm saying most Christian rituals and ceremonies and indeed, many laws, are based on pagan rituals and ceremonies and laws. Just as likely some Christian warlock rituals/laws are based on pagan rituals/laws. Luckily, we have been freed from the old ceremonial and religious laws. =D Quote: And yes, with Christian Warlocks, it literally is what I said, Pagan in a Christian Shaped Box. =/ I KNOW about it, I have a friend who is one. It exactly what it seems, someone who believes in Christianity, who either believes in Pagan Gods, (normal case) Or the more 'hip' practices witchcraft, occult spells or try fluffy Wicca belief. smile Source for this? I mean, who knows, I apply to this. I believe in Zeus, as another concept for God. I often meditate to clear my mind. Does this make me un-christian, simply because these activities are often associated with other religions? I'm planning to attend Squamish religious ceremonies starting this fall, to get a sense of the belief system of the First Nations at UBC. Is that wrong? Quote: Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Quote: Beside all that, I'm not being Judgemental, the bible is: Lev 20:27 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' Before someone screams that was old testiment and doesn't apply: Galatians 5:19-20 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions The Greek word "pharmakos" which appears in Galatians 5:20 refers to poisoners. It was mis-translated as witchcraft in the King James Version. Since no modern-day Pagan, Neopagan or occultic activity engages in killing people by poison, the verse does not refer in any way to Wicca, other Neopagans or Occultists. =/ It GREEK it has More than one meaning, read the verse. "Idolatry and Witchcraft" Becuase "Idolatry and Poison Inflicter, really work together. Lets get the greek word shall we? φαρμακεία (n):1) the use or the administering of drugs 2) poisoning 3) sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it Hmmmm? Doesn't take a rocketscientence to see a corrilation. I Guess that then does include Wicca, neopagans and Occultists. warlocks. NOT idolatry. Idolatry is condemned EVERWHERE in the Bible. Quote: Beside that, pagans and Occultists never engaded or where known for poisioning people... Occultists where known for Cursing, and that about the limit of it. Quote: Circular logic. Pagans didn't poison people, so that passage must refer to witchcraft, proving that paganism is condemned in the passage. That's a logical fallacy. Quote: Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Quote: serial_killer101 A spell is a prayer used to get a task done, not Magick can be used for the purpose of God, and to help others gain the knowlage of Jesus Christ. Intrest but wrong. Prayer (n): a devout petition to God or an object of worship. AKA: Talking to God. Spell (n): a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation: The wizard cast a spell. A word, in everyday usage, is what the person saying it says it is. Serial_killer101 seems to be referring to exactly the same type of prayer used by Peter, Paul, and Elijah. Peter and Paul spoke a different language to Elijah, Same TYPE of prayer. "________, in the name of the Lord." Language isn't important in this concept; otherwise, the Lord's Prayer would be said in Greek. Quote: That kind of prayer. and no, that isn't the definition of Spell. Spell (n): a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation: The wizard cast a spell. See, that the WORDS have power NOT THE GOD. I have already said that the dictionary definition is not the be-all end-all for deciding whether something is right or wrong. The word "cool", in the dictionary, refers to the absence of heat. Does this mean that when I call someone cool, no matter what I MEAN by that, I am telling him he's chilly? Of course not. Words means what the people saying them say they mean.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:30 pm
You can't serve two gods. Either you are a Christian or you are not.
Now you can have Christian values and morals and not be Christian.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:38 pm
Type Text Here serial_killer101 Type Text Here Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori Type Text Here I'm glad no-one else is, being a Pagan and taking Christian foundations, doesn't make you a Christian warlock, it makes you a Warlock with Christian morals, becuase you don't recieve the salvation of Christ. Please don't judge others. Could we have more information on Christian Warlocks, please? Pah, your link full of opinionated comments, you can not claim a curse from the lord as being evil sorcery, that would require Paul or Peter to have power that is external of God. They simple asked God to curse them, Elija does it as well. Basically, don't mess with God. =/ If you want to know information about it, lets take wiccan and stuff into a Christian shaped box, and then you have Christian Warlocks. Beside all that, I'm not being Judgemental, the bible is: Lev 20:27 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' Before someone screams that was old testiment and doesn't apply: Galatians 5:19-20 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions serial_killer101 A spell is a prayer used to get a task done, not Magick can be used for the purpose of God, and to help others gain the knowlage of Jesus Christ. Intrest but wrong. Prayer (n): a devout petition to God or an object of worship. AKA: Talking to God. Spell (n): a word, phrase, or form of words supposed to have magic power; charm; incantation: The wizard cast a spell. Which would mean if you pray you'd have to say a serise of phrase, or a form for God to do anything, and a spell requires that the words have the power, not the God. Rom 1:16 the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. ^---Tis what is used for salvation. YEs but in use of a spell your asking for power from the Divine, now We all know God has Power that he can let us use. He doesn't let us use it, the holy spirit heals people, the holy spirit does it all to say that God charges your battery and then you proform the Miracle is in fact insulting and belittling God. Acts 1:7-8 7He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." 1 Corinthians 12:7-11 7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:40 pm
ryokomayuka You can't serve two gods. Either you are a Christian or you are not. Now you can have Christian values and morals and not be Christian. Did you not read the thread? Who are you talking to and what do you mean? What point are you replying to?
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