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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:55 am
That makes sense. It is good to know a date respects you and cares about you - and everyone likes being pampered and flattered now and again - for whatever reason.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:56 am
That would also include respecting what the other person does not like right, SK?
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:30 am
It is too bad there was no corresponding "union or organization" for women to better and improve themselves. That would make an interesting story line....The knight threw his cape on the puddle for the beautiful young woman and she responded by throwing her cape in the puddle next to him to step on...
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:46 pm
That's a good point! It makes me wonder though, in those days, did everyone wear capes or just the men? If life back then was anything like most movies I've ever seen, then maybe only the men wore capes... I don't know about anyone else but I think chivalry is not dead yet. Maybe it's on life support but, certainly not dead. At least I don't think so... mrgreen
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:36 am
Well I kind of like chivalry.not at all because I think myself better tahn women or that women cannot do anything on their own.I would only do it to be respectful to the person I was dating.
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:45 pm
I think all women should be independent and not act as if they need a man to help. Independence, confidence in one's abilities..are admirable characteristics in my view. But I see nothing wrong with chivalry. I extend a certain courtesy to everyone equally and while I could care less if a woman did not return the favor, I cannot help but expect it from men. I don't really understand it, it seems old-fashioned. But it is not an idea that is very harmful and I can't help but feel good when a man (especially younger men, closer to my age) is chivalrous.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:06 pm
It depends entirely on how it's being conducted for me really - reasons are given earlier in the thread.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:08 pm
I think you and I have similar points of view on the subject Eowyyn! I'm kinda like that too...
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:12 am
I think there's chivalry, then there's Chivalry....
A lot of people of both genders nowadays are taking inspiration from the HOPE of chivalry, the aspirations, if you will, that knights of old vowed to try and observe. They clearly didn't always succeed--but there's always the hope, the example to hold up, and one hopes a person can make the right decision when the time comes to fish or cut bait.
Chivalry isn't just observing manners, though that's a big part of it--and when a man holds a door for me, I always thank him politely--then, because he has let me go first, I hold the next one for him. smile It's a door that swings both ways.
But chivalry is also about realizing the world is bigger than we are as individuals, and that if we look outside our own needs first, we will realize there are many opportunities to assist. If I'm contemplating going somewhere expensive for lunch and just every so often decide not to, but rather send the money to a charity group that helps the homeless or feeds starving people elsewhere in the world... to me that's an act of chivalry. I know for sure that in the US we waste enough food in a single day, across the nation, to relieve a famine elsewhere. Wouldn't it be chivalrous of us to try and stem that tendency, and make sure our abundant surplus goes where it's needed?
From those to whom much has been given, much is thereby expected. And I suspect that is at the root and heart of chivalry even in a historical sense. A knight was rich enough to have land and vassals, and to support the expense of BEING someone else's vassal. He was therefore expected to care for the people under him, out of his wealth. That attitude was supposed to trickle down and spread sidewise; that it didn't always do so is a good example for us in the here and now.
*looks down in surprise* Where did this pulpit come from?? *steps down* I'll stop being preachy now. smile But you see what I mean, I hope.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:17 am
I see what you mean all right. I wish I had something to send the pople over in Mexico. The flooding affected a whole city and they didn't even get the flood from a hurricane!
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:16 pm
I know, I saw the coverage on television--those poor people! sad
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:02 am
Yes well, I hope they will be all right...
But we're steering away from the subject. I wonder if anybody else has anything to say about Chivalry...
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:59 pm
Chivalry... Hm... It reminds me of an anime called Le Chevalier D'eon. It's about a certain person in France's history named D'eon de Beaumont (It's a true histroy). And he's a person who lived the first half of his life as a man and the second half of his life as a woman. XD He also served under King Louis XV, who's... well, not that of a great king of France. Anyways, the anime is all about the Psalms of the King, loyalty, Poets (these are the magicians/sorcerers, in other words) and the revenge of D'eon's sister who possessed his soul. (D'eon changes into his sister when someone relevant to her enemies appear)
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:52 pm
That sounds very cool--I'm going to have to look for that one!
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:29 am
So... Le Chevalier D'eon, hmm? Nope! I haven't heard about that one in the current anime channel we have in Guate. rolleyes
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