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 Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:02 am
Picara Doyle My thoughts can sort of be summed up with part of a discussion on another board, in which it was observed that a lot of kids wanting to be 'steampunk' probably couldn't hold still long enough or appreciate a formal tea party with others. This, I sympathize with. Part of why I've embraced this style is that it hearkens back to a less frantic day- as the motto of my theatre company says, "Thoughtful, Yet Stylish". The "punk" in "steampunk", in my opinion, refers to the recycling of styles, the mish-mash we come up with. Any day, you can expect to find me with blue hair, a pocketwatch, a chain bracelet, platform boots, a leather trenchcoat, a top hat.... Those with the emphasis on Steam will perhaps disavow me as a Steampunk- I am too "modern"- too punk. Those with the emphasis on Punk, however, may accept that. I'm not sure, as I may be the only steampunker in my city. Personally, I believe I've got to be one of the Punk steampunks, since I have no qualms about mixing styles. Perhaps, as the Cheshire-Cat said, a change of name is in order? Those who do mix and match styles (goth, cyberpunk, steam fashion, etc.) can remain steampunk, while those who maintain the Victorian ways could be those of steamculture?
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:34 pm
Eris Discordion Perhaps, as the Cheshire-Cat said, a change of name is in order? Those who do mix and match styles (goth, cyberpunk, steam fashion, etc.) can remain steampunk, while those who maintain the Victorian ways could be those of steamculture? I know I'm among a few who differentiate with lots of terms and label the whole conglomeration as "Steam punk". I see Steampunk as a much broader term, with sub-sub-cultures within. Ooo! I should make a Venn Diagram!
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:45 am
Anna Verinn I see Steampunk as a much broader term, with sub-sub-cultures within. Ooo! I should make a Venn Diagram! Yes. You should.
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:49 pm
Eris Discordion Anna Verinn I see Steampunk as a much broader term, with sub-sub-cultures within. Ooo! I should make a Venn Diagram! Yes. You should.
Oh! I LOVE Indexed!
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:12 am
Anna Verinn Eris Discordion Anna Verinn I see Steampunk as a much broader term, with sub-sub-cultures within. Ooo! I should make a Venn Diagram! Yes. You should.
Oh! I LOVE Indexed!
Agreed.
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:53 pm
I like more of the steam. Mostly because when it leans to punk... yeah, it gets hard to tell the difference between other punk genres.
The more steam, the closer to the old Scientific Romances we get. And that, I like.
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:45 am
I think for the majority of the time I was more attracted to Victoriana than anything else. Being honest with myself, I just liked to dress up. However, maybe six-sevenish months ago I saw "The adventures of young Jules Verne". There's something about steam-powered-rocket-jets propelling vampires at hot air balloons that'll convert you.
Even now, maybe it's something more of a asthetic issue for me. I believe the fancy frills of our impractical great-grandparents look fantastic with greasy black smears, un-needed studs, and of course- dreadlocks.
dramallama
Not that I think that would look good on me (indeed, I've only seen it on a few white people where it was flattering. And they certainly weren't men), but it does make pinstripes pop.
I think I'll have a better idea of where I lie on the theoretical issues once I finish "The Difference Engine".For now I'll be content to attend some monthly event (as I've been fortunate enough to do) and occasionally skrounge in Second Life pirate
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:58 am
In reality I don't dress very historical on the spectrum although it's modern looking, it definatly doesn't go under the punk category. But I like the steam end of the culture and the historic aesthetic. I never dress alternatively before so there's not much in the way "punk." I'm not as big of a cyberpunk fan, also leaving little in the way of punk. I like classical music although some punk is okay.
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:54 am
I don't really know. confused
At first I thought 'Well, of course you're more steam! You're so obsessed with the Victorian era and it's fashion, social politics an science! That's a no brainer!'
But then I thought about my characters that I've created that are based in the Victorian era. They break almost ALL of even the more 'sacred' social rules and stigmas of the era. They're all so very 'punk' when you think about it.
I guess it's just a happy marriage between the two for me, which is just the way I like it. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:26 pm
I believe I lean slightly more toward the punk persuasion, if only because I'm more inclined to mix post-apocalyptic looking wear in with the petticoats and corsetry. I guess it kind of depends on my mood for the day too - whether I feel more like knocking out some reanimated corpses or taking tea in the gardens.
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:18 pm
Recognizably steam, but with some punk overtones. My hair is pretty naturally spiky when I cut it short (like it is now).
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:12 pm
Based on the way you are looking at this, I would have to say that my idea of steampunk is just a bit more "punk" than "steam". I was a fan of cyberpunk before I became a fan of steampunk. I guess the idea of advanced technology being converted down to be steampunk has always been an intriguing idea. Fact is that one of the main things used in many steampunk stories, the airship, wasn't actually created until after the Victorian era had ended. The same goes for the Wright brother's first flight, which was the start of aviation. The majority of ideas in steampunk are ideas from outside of the era that so many steampunks are so enamored with.
I have had piercings in my ears once. I've never cut my hair into a mohawk. I've never died my hair a strange color, but I am not against the idea. My style is not very neat, but I can clean up rather nicely.
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High-functioning Shapeshifter
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:44 pm
Horatio Crane I tend to be more of a "Steamgoth" I have always been a fan of the Victorian (and Edwardian) history and culture, and always been a bit more on the dark side in my leanings (Taste in music, film, appearance, etc...) and So I have integrated my loves into the odd combination I am now. AH! Another one! I've always fancied the term steamgoth. I love the dark romanticism of the gothic subculture, as well as the childlike enthusiasm and inventiveness of steampunk. I also love period clothing and enjoy dressing up and garnering lots of attention and odd looks.
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:30 pm
Oh my dear word, it seems we have a cult of necromancers among us. Dead thread, revived after almost 2 whole years of dirt-nap beauty-sleep... eek
I don't really see anything wrong with necro-posting so long as the discussion is brought back to life, too, and it most definitely have. With steampunk, I myself put the emphasis on steam, as I'm sure some of you have noticed due to my posts in a thread or two. I don't think that by any means punk is inappropriate, but I see no necessity of the latter in the former.
Really, I prefer my steampunk as far from punk (or punk rock) and goth as possible. For example, I don't like seeing hair falls or gothic lolita style in steampunk, but that's just me. When steampunk takes that awesome turn into the wild west setting, I don't mind a little punkiness.
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 6:36 am
I love my steam punk to be fantastical and obscure. It can take off of the correct history and be variations on the clothing, but it has be be out there, cut sew, hand made, outrageous, inventive, and ingenious....
I guess I would say I'm more on the 'punk' side...
It's funny though, because my fiance on the other hand likes to stay very true to the history and likes the historical clothes, only slightly modded.
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