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 Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:44 pm
LordNeuf I used to... But it feels wierd now, it's empty. It seems that I am the only one that I know who actually acknowledges that friday night is supposed to be somewhat sacred. And when you're the only one doing it, it kinda looses it's luster. Especially when you have to wake up early on Saturday to make sure you get to work on time. Those car payments don't pay themselves. I can definitely understand where you're coming from, but if everyone else isn't doing it, it kinda makes you special. It should have even more luster than it did if now you're the only one doing it. Chances are, your friends and others will catch on, and might even want to join in, just to see what it's like, or to observe again. I mean, I wouldn't know, but it just seems like that's how it would go down. It will be easier, now that I have summer, and six other days of the week to chill with my friends instead of 1 or 2. I will really try to get some reading done over vacation about Shabbat and other things. I haven't really had much time to focus on conversion yet. I'm really excited! xd
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:47 pm
well.. my family likes the friday nights..
we light the candles, do a kiddush, have a wonderful friday night feast, and then bench afterwards. but it seems like right after they start going into house chores, and sometimes watch tv, and the only time i really dont mind it is when something important in my parents business comes up..
my parents own their own business, my mom is a travel agent, and my dad finds investors to invest in natural gas (a very good investment to get into right now btw.)
unfortunately.. a lot of the crap they gets is all on the weekends.. :/
so really, in trying to comprimise with the different life styles, im really only fine with it as long as it is business related.. on their part.. it is money, and it will be paying for my college education which will be really expensive as i wanna go to a nice law school and become rich myself.. and eventually, I want to find a nice guy or girl as a spouse to keep shobbat with.. Call me crazy, but I find some aspects of shabbat romantic. <.<
the saturday mornings.. well.. ever since we moved to this place, we have only gone to the synagogue like 3 or 4 times.. this is because the closest one is a 2 mile walk, and my parents cant do that.. So.. if they dont go, no one else will go.. I honestly, dont like going alone either.. Especially cause the people in this temple aren't very nice, I find the rabbi to be weak, and the people talk a lot while praying.. Its not like my old synagogue where I still disliked some of the people there, but went every week and loved the harmony in everyones praying, and they had a better rabbi too.. The synagogue I like was started by Rabbi Wine (I dunno if I spelled his name correctly), and then the only rabbi I know that took over once Rabbi Wine left was Rabbi Haber, and he was really cool. He used to be a hippy, and he converted to orthodox judaism! I really looked up to him. He was very accepting too, and controversial. Wasn't afraid to show his political opinions, and gave thoughtful dvar torahs that provoked thinking and spiritual growth. Anyways, we usually do a nice lunch together as well..
We dont do havdalah though.. and saturday nights is a "make your own dinner night" for us. So yeah thats about all really..
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:22 am
Benzino the Great ... i wanna go to a nice law school and become rich myself.. and eventually, I want to find a nice guy or girl as a spouse to keep shobbat with.. Call me crazy, but I find some aspects of shabbat romantic. That's not crazy at all, Benzino! Shabbat is definitely special, and all the things about Shabbat contribute to a feeling of romance in the air. Picture it with me. You've cleaned the house, and it smells lovely and looks very tidy and presentable. You've had a bath or shower, gotten your best clothes on, maybe put on cologne or some kind of jewellery, shined your shoes, fixed your hair nicely or put on a fancier-than-everyday kippah or scarf. You've got a really beautiful dinner prepared. The table is set with the best dishes, a tasty wine, and the good silver. The candles are just waiting to be lit. There's a whirlwind of preparation, and then a few seconds of intensity and anticipation as someone strikes a match and lights the candles. The blessing is said with closed eyes and in hushed, heartfelt tones which can still be heard by those listening for them. All whisper back, "Amein," in supportive agreement. The romantic date has begun, the romance begun 3,800 years ago, the consecrated courtship and marriage of Yisrael and Hashem. No wonder the Talmudic sages said it was a special mitzvah (sacred obligation) to make love to one's spouse on Shabbat!
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:08 pm
kingpinsqeezels I haven't really had much time to focus on conversion yet. I'm really excited! xd What do you mean? focus on conversion?
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:54 pm
Divash Benzino the Great ... i wanna go to a nice law school and become rich myself.. and eventually, I want to find a nice guy or girl as a spouse to keep shobbat with.. Call me crazy, but I find some aspects of shabbat romantic. That's not crazy at all, Benzino! Shabbat is definitely special, and all the things about Shabbat contribute to a feeling of romance in the air. Picture it with me. You've cleaned the house, and it smells lovely and looks very tidy and presentable. You've had a bath or shower, gotten your best clothes on, maybe put on cologne or some kind of jewellery, shined your shoes, fixed your hair nicely or put on a fancier-than-everyday kippah or scarf. You've got a really beautiful dinner prepared. The table is set with the best dishes, a tasty wine, and the good silver. The candles are just waiting to be lit. There's a whirlwind of preparation, and then a few seconds of intensity and anticipation as someone strikes a match and lights the candles. The blessing is said with closed eyes and in hushed, heartfelt tones which can still be heard by those listening for them. All whisper back, "Amein," in supportive agreement. The romantic date has begun, the romance begun 3,800 years ago, the consecrated courtship and marriage of Yisrael and Hashem. No wonder the Talmudic sages said it was a special mitzvah (sacred obligation) to make love to one's spouse on Shabbat! lol. I like cooking the meals. Right now even, I help my mom cook all the time for shabbat partially to get it done faster (cause i'm starving by that time..), and also to learn how she makes delicious meals! For the most part, I mostly do the veggies. My favorite is asparagus, and broccoli, with spinach as a close third.. I really dislike brussel sprouts though. Cleaning... I suck at that.. I dont really like to clean. I'm messy too. lol. I help with that too.. Cause what type of son would I be if I didnt offer to clear the table and take out the garbage? ;-; not only that but after the fantastic friday night meal, you shouldn't be watching tv, theres no video games, no one really calls you and if someone does they can go to answering machine.. So you have all the time in the world to just hang out..
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:30 pm
JUST ONE SHABBOS AND WE'LL ALL BE FREE!
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:21 pm
LordNeuf kingpinsqeezels I haven't really had much time to focus on conversion yet. I'm really excited! xd What do you mean? focus on conversion? Well. I want to convert, but being a student, a daughter, a friend, and a worker, it gets hard to focus on learning new things about Judaism. I pick up things here and there, but actually sitting down and reading hasn't been something I can do. Now it's summer though...I have tons of free time.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:14 pm
Well if you have any questions let us know.
I'm sure you can learn about every custom and every holiday from everyone here.
Especially my blend of "Judiasm for the solo act" known as Reconservodox Judiasm.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:38 pm
LordNeuf Well if you have any questions let us know. I'm sure you can learn about every custom and every holiday from everyone here. Especially my blend of "Judiasm for the solo act" known as Reconservodox Judiasm. Reconservodox. That's clever! I have learned a lot from this place. I really appreciate it.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:40 pm
kingpinsqeezels LordNeuf Well if you have any questions let us know. I'm sure you can learn about every custom and every holiday from everyone here. Especially my blend of "Judiasm for the solo act" known as Reconservodox Judiasm. Reconservodox. That's clever! I have learned a lot from this place. I really appreciate it. Me too! 3nodding
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:04 am
Can you tell us more about this branch of Judaism? ::adds one more to the judaism branch list::
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:13 pm
In a lot of ways, I keep Shabbos, but in a lot of ways I don't.
I don't dress up, or do fancy Friday night dinners most weeks because...well...my family's not Jewish. I live with my boyfriend, and while he and I love to do Shabbos together, he's not Jewish either...plus he's at work most Friday nights. It's just me and the cats...and those guys won't even keep kosher. Ingrates.
Because of my personal situation, my personal Shabbos ritual is different. For one thing, I do Shabbos after the evening service at my synagogue, rather than before. I light my candles right before I get into a big warm bubble bath to unwind. I soak in the tub and relax with a cup of tea and think about all the good things I'm thankful for in my life. I also have a water-proofed copy of the Torah I like to bring in there. Afterwards, I eat some supper and drink some tasty, tasty kosher wine and snuggle up with the kitties. I like to sit on my balcony a lot on Friday nights, because I feel more connected with The Divine out there.
My Saturdays are usually spent with my friends, boyfriend, or family. Granted, I do a lot of things during that time I technically shouldn't be doing. Sewing is the big one. I like to sew and knit, and technically, doing that is breaking Shabbos...but I think I'll be forgiven, since I do it to relax and bond with my family and friends, as opposed to making money. During the summer, I go to the Renaissance Faire every Saturday. Once again, it's not a kosher Shabbos...but it's getting away from my hectic modern life and taking time to bond with friends.
I think I tend to follow the spirit of the law, rather than the letter of it...what good is Shabbos if you're not with the people you love and care about? I'll be forgiven for breaking a few rules here and there if it helps me become more spiritually fulfilled.
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:33 am
Lovecraftian Girlfriend I think I tend to follow the spirit of the law, rather than the letter of it...what good is Shabbos if you're not with the people you love and care about? I'll be forgiven for breaking a few rules here and there if it helps me become more spiritually fulfilled. I honestly do think that a kosher Shabbat is the most wonderful thing I've ever experienced, and I get to have it every week. What a gift! I also think that every single step in your journey towards that goal is valuable to yourself, and valuable to Hashem. If one week, all you do is acknowledge to yourself, "Well, Shabbat is here now," and then go on with your life... maybe the next week you'll say it while lighting candles (but not blessing them, if you're not fully converted or in the process of a halachic conversion). Maybe after a couple months of doing that, you'll say, "You know what? Shabbat is coming. I don't think I'll log in on Shabbat anymore." Even if you still turn on the computer, you're getting rid of one distraction from your Shabbos. Maybe in a year's time, or a month, you'll think, "No computer at all," or even, "I don't think I'd miss the TV, either." Tiny steps, baby steps. Just keep progressing, however slowly, and Hashem honors and values that progression. Every time you remove one tiny everyday thing from Shabbat, add something of Shabbat to Shabbat. If you're not watching TV, you'll need something else to keep your mind occupied. Try reading a book. Bonus points if it's on a Jewish subject, but really, any book. Or try talking to someone and interacting as actual human beings, or playing with your pets -- do something that keeps boredom at bay and makes you feel good. Little things. Tiny changes. It may take you many years to keep a fully kosher Shabbat. Heck, you may never even get there. But the progress will feel more and more fulfilling and relaxing and rewarding as you build it upon itself. "More than Israel keeps Shabbos, Shabbos keeps Israel."
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:05 pm
I keep Shabbat because it's commanded so many times in the Torah, it's a preview of the Messianic kingdom, and it's a delight! The queen of the week! Shabbat Shalom!
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:59 pm
cheribi I keep Shabbat because it's commanded so many times in the Torah, it's a preview of the Messianic kingdom, and it's a delight! The queen of the week! Shabbat Shalom! Shabbos ended a few hours ago. It's so sad crying
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