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 Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:44 pm
I have no problem with incest.
It does make me feel slightly uncomfortable, however.
But love is love.
So, yeah.
That's what I think of it.
LOVE IS FOR EVERYONE.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:08 pm
I hoestly don't care, that's their business but it is strange to me. I suppose that no one should be surpeised though. If you think about it they may love each other due to physical or mental attraction just like any other human. Hell, I think my cousin is drop dead sexy and we get along great. If I were interested in a relationship with him there's a good chance it would work out so why not go for it? Besides, attraction is attraction and you just can't help that.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:39 pm
Well, it just seem weird to me. . . i mean, it's like i would never ever go near my sister in that way . . . but i suppose if that's the way someone happens to fall in love, then it's unfair to stop them, but just like everyone else, i don't reckon it's fair to bring a deformed child into the world. . .
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:09 pm
About the deformed children bit. Unless there is some pre-existing negative trait that would be amplified (not necesarily brought to bear excepting a few rare conditions) by inbreeding than there is little to no chance of a single interbred couple producing a malformed or otherwise deficient child.
The genetic chances of a completely new trait or a very long dormant trait being brought to bear by that single generation of inbreeding are so slim they are almost non-existant. Sure if you have a pre-existing trait it's a bad idea, but then again it's the same thing for two strangers if they have that trait.
Basically the only difference between inbreeding and other forms of breeding is that genetic traits get bottlenecked. In group of genes with absolutely no inherent flaws this would do absolutely nothing but bring to bear the dominant traits of the genes. In a group of genes with flaws it would slowly push the flaws to the forefront or remove them, one way or the other. The extreme of this is if you bottleneck a whole family down to one pair over the course of a few generations. It leads to either highly evident flaws, or a cleansing of flaws. But again this takes many generations of inbreeding.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:06 pm
Minozake Dragon_Witch_Woman Aside from the moral taboos acciated with incest in our sociaty, I'm more worried about the physical repercusions should an incestuous couple have children. Its is very unhealty to be inbreed. The problem is genetics gets nasty when you work out probabilities. You have maybe a little over 27,000 genes in the human body total. And then the genotype the genotype for the genes can be (universally expressed) AA, Aa, and aa. Some genes would be fine, some genes would be homozygous recessive already by pure chance anyway, and some genes would just turn heterozygous. And then you'd have to find how many sex-linked traits there are. Possible sex-linked genotypes are XX, Xx, xx, XY, and xY. In short, this is why I tried to choose not to discuss inbreeding. Unless someone is willing to do some serious number crunching (and research) to find out the probability of a reasonably normal child for first-generation inbred offspring, it's etchy to discuss unless we are talking about historical observations. I did that for my biology classe couple times, only with fake situations of course. Anyways, genetics problems taken aside, I think incest is only considered wrong because of very old believes that don't want to go away (and probably never will). Of course, this is considering the two people gave their conscent (sp)
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:52 pm
I find it fine.
Sometimes I think my brother is cute but whatever.
It doens't mean anything.
If you wanna do stuff with family and you both love it do it.
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:57 am
Hrm. Interesting topic.
For me, I don't mind incest. It does make me uncomfortable, but I think if two family members are truly in love, they should go for it. You can't help who you love, and it's torture to be away from a loved one because some people think it's wrong. It's your choice if you want in incestual relationship. No one has a right to say it's wrong. Love comes to people differently, and people should start realizing that.
Heck, I think my cousin is hot. I wouldn't ever have an incestual relationship, but I don't think it's bad. Love is love.
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:45 am
Incest - if you do it stay behind closed doors. It's no one else's business. The only thing I kind of think about is if messed up children come out of it. It's bad for you and it's bad for the kid.
If your sibling is who you want to be with, you're more than welcome, just don't tell me about it. mad I can't comprehend the attraction to a sibling, I just can't. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:43 pm
I find incest interesting, really. If the two closely-related people are in fact deeply in love, I'm actually alright with it. But, being an older sister of a brother, I don't really believe I could fall in love with him in a romantic way. Perhaps it is because I'm attracted to different types of men, and my brother does not fit their discription. To have two related people "fall in love" they must be attracted to one another, and not many are (that I know of).
And, when you say "related", it can be two cousins or something like that, which actually happened not long ago. Though it is not common today, incest is still sometimes practiced purposely to keep money or an inheritence in the family.
However, I pray that two related-persons' family would understand...which can sometimes happen.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:38 am
GlassDaemon (Don't know how true this is) But I heard once that siblings having messed up children isn't any more possible than those that aren't related at all, the problem comes with cousins having the messed up brat.... Don't know why that is or, I repeat, even if that's true. Its true that they come out different. because one has about the same genetic jeans with closely related family, it can have a serious affect on their brainwaves. witch has them come out with a learning disability, or a growth disability, and bigger problems may occur. Also it can have a serious affect on your child's life. Because as we all know all people are cruel in one way or another, so if someone ended up finding out, that child would end up being teased and bullied for the rest of their lives.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:32 am
As it is with everybody else, I don't mind incest. Heck, I don't mind if you tell me about it, either. To me, love is not black and white. Love is love, and love is right for everyone.
My concern would be if a heterosexual incestuous couple were to have children. I'd have counselled them to adopt instead, if they were serious about raising a family. There's no sense, to me, in taking a risk having biological kids if that risk entails their children to have birth defects. No child deserves that, especially if they can prevent it.
Or they can search out their pedigree, but that kind of goes against my last statement.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:21 pm
I wonder why genetic counseling is never discussed in these threads. With a visit to the doctor, any couple can assess the risk/probabilities of hazardous genetic mutations and plan accordingly.
Personally incestuous relations are not for me as I'm not too close to my family... but begrudging it of someone else would be silly.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:24 pm
Hm, I haven't found anyone in this thread so far who's talked about having an incestual relationship with anyone besides a sibling or a cousin. Unless I missed something. xD
Anyways, I have absolutely nothing against incest...except for why it would feel weird. If something feels weird, then it usually has something wrong correlated with it, right?
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:22 pm
yami_shinyi I wonder why genetic counseling is never discussed in these threads. With a visit to the doctor, any couple can assess the risk/probabilities of hazardous genetic mutations and plan accordingly. Personally incestuous relations are not for me as I'm not too close to my family... but begrudging it of someone else would be silly. Well, genetic counseling is only needed if someone were to inbreed. Would infertile or homosexual incest couples need genetic counseling?
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:52 pm
As odd as this sounds I find it kinda hot.
I mean I would never do anything with my brother but when I was little though, my cousin and I kissed(well he kissed me). I never thought I was a freak or any thing it didn't mean I wanted to be with him forever it was just a kiss...kinda fun really<3
Though two sister's/brother's or cousin's together to me is really sexy.
Inbreeding is not right though not fair for the kid...just adopt if you have to...
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