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Ivy_tsuki

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:06 pm


NyakoNatsumi
Alright so this is mostly about meditation I think...

Last night I was lieing in bed for no reason because lately I haven't been able to sleep. I already got used to not being able to fall asleep and I'd usually just read untill close to morning and the fall asleep.
Anyway, I was lieing and had a thought. Why don't I just try to meditate right now? Or at least practice relaxing if I'm not a ble to go far in the meditation.
I concentraited on my breaths like everyone said to do and my mind just started to wander, yet I could still hear my self counting. Well I wasn't counting out loud, just kind of saying it in my head. Then my thoughts went to trying to conntact my guardian. But I wasn't even able to try because for some reason I could feel...I don't know this sounds odd. I could feel that I wasn't feeling my body. Then I tryed to stand up in my mind. I could feel myself (not my body) sit up and then crawl to the edge of the bed and then stand and put my hands on my dresser. When I tryed to look at where my body was laying, I automaticly was placed back into it and now I was looking out from it.
I tryed doing that a couple more times and got to the point where I could actually walk around my rom a bit and look past my body to the other side of the room without being shoved back in. A couple of times though I felt my leg or arm twitch and the first 2 times I think I was transported back. The last thing I remember is standing near my door.

I actually just remembered this. Is it normal, or did I do something wrong? I wrote the stuff abuot my not being able to sleep in case that might have something to do with it.

ok first I will talk about the not sleeping thing. Ok. First, you what to look at what you have been doing; as in daily activities. Have you been active a lot; or have you just been lying around the house, if you get a lot of exercise it should help. You should look at what you are eating. Like supposedly if you eat kiwi before sleeping you are supposed to get really strange dreams, and trouble sleeping. Try not eating before bed if you can. Also give your self an hour before bed to wind down and clear your head before sleeping. The average person takes about 9min on average to fall asleep; if you take around 30min or more to fall asleep on average I would see a doctor. If not sleeping well goes on for more then a week and you have been eating right and active I would see a doctor, there are a lot of sleeping disorders that many people don't here about, but can seriously effect the quality and amount of sleep a person gets. Luckily most conditions are easily treated. Ok then to the OBE thingy. That is perfectly nature to be able to walk around in your sleep. It is cool that you are good at it. I know today I was actually doing a lot of experimenting with it. People say that in our sleep people leave their bodies to walk around in other plain and around their houses. I know I have been sleeping and I have seen my brother come in to my room from the point of view of me sitting up in bed, just to have him walk over to my body and shake me and to find that I was laying down with my eyes closed. The government was actually doing experiments with people who are really good at having OBE. There were seeing if they could use people as spies with out endangering them. As far as I have heard they have been having great successes, mind you I have not had a lot of details on this, just what my mom has told me (choose to believe her or not) the first OBE I ever had is when I was about 13/14 and I was riding in a car and my mom had explained to me earlier how it all worked and how to do it. Well need less to say a car is not the best place to do that because once my spirit form left my body, the car moved and my spirit form did not. As soon as I was scared of losing my body I was back in it. Your body and spirit have a special connection. You cannot lose your body while walking around in your spirit form. Walking around while sleeping is natural and we do it a lot when we sleep, just a lot of people don’t remember it, or have a faint remembrance but pass it off as a dream. My guess would have to be is that you just have a lot of extra energy that you have not been using during the day. Mind you this is just a guess, I have taken in a count your mood or other environmental things that could be affecting you.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:11 pm


Uh-huh...I get it. The excersize thing I do everyday but I haven't been paying attention to what I eat. I know I eat a lot of fruits...

Anyway thanks for that.

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Ivy_tsuki

PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:45 pm


NyakoNatsumi
Uh-huh...I get it. The excersize thing I do everyday but I haven't been paying attention to what I eat. I know I eat a lot of fruits...

Anyway thanks for that.

no problem, sorry I know some times I can sound like I swallowed a text book...lol
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:21 pm


Wow, that was some dman good explainign there...Iv got so much to try out now...findign my gaurdian, my element, OBE...wow...Im goign to be all peaceful and calm with all this meditateing man! lol blaugh

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Mooncat_LI

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:01 pm


For the longest time, I've been trying to astral project. After a while, I sort of gave up.

Reading all your imput on A.P, it makes a lot of sense-
My mom told me about this time when she thoughta bout astral projecting, and suddenly found herself out of her body, and the whole 'relaxation' thing is what they tell you to do for autohypnosis.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:53 pm


Mooncat_LI
For the longest time, I've been trying to astral project. After a while, I sort of gave up.

Reading all your imput on A.P, it makes a lot of sense-
My mom told me about this time when she thoughta bout astral projecting, and suddenly found herself out of her body, and the whole 'relaxation' thing is what they tell you to do for autohypnosis.

glad we could help, its what we are here for *hugs*

Ivy_tsuki


x_pumpkinqueen_x

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:16 pm


my spirit guide seems to be a bear. i dream about them a lot and just appear to be connected to them in general. bears are all about healing right? or partially? i read that somewhere.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:10 am


mad_sparrow
my spirit guide seems to be a bear. i dream about them a lot and just appear to be connected to them in general. bears are all about healing right? or partially? i read that somewhere.

that is cool, I unfortuanately don't know a lot about bears. So of course I am going to look it up! Woohoo more thinks to learn!!!

Ivy_tsuki


Ivy_tsuki

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:18 am


Bear - Primal power, mother, cunning, healer, gentle strength, dreaming, sovereignty, intuition married with instinct. Nurturing, protective.

taken fromhttp://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/Files/animals.htm
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:00 pm


Ivy_tsuki
Bear - Primal power, mother, cunning, healer, gentle strength, dreaming, sovereignty, intuition married with instinct. Nurturing, protective.

taken fromhttp://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/Files/animals.htm


aw, dude! thanks for the link, i shall check it out... later. not much time now... bloody school work stare

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Salere

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:15 pm


Hey, thanks for the info. I have been trying to AP for a for along time now, and failed miserably.. But one time I just put on like loon music ish type stuff with nature sounds, and it was on a cassette thingy not a cd. I kinda relaxed and I am not sure what happened, but the tape player clicked saying it was the end of that side of the tape... and I feel like I fell back into my body with the speed of a freight train.. I "woke up" or whatever happened positivly screaming. It was soo scary and I hurt all over for awhile after. The strange thing Is, I know it wasn't sleeping, cause hearing that sound while sleeping would have brought me back to conciousness really fast. But this... I could feel me falling for about 3 seconds before I hit whatever... O_o It was quite strange. However I am going to try the method's posted and see what happens.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:33 pm


Thanks for all the hints at AP, itoo have failed at it and am now going to try it but i get scared really easily (ask ivy!) so i may need lots of support

also dream interpretations would be helpful ( once and a while)

how do you remeber dreams when you wake up?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:46 pm


heiwa90
Thanks for all the hints at AP, itoo have failed at it and am now going to try it but i get scared really easily (ask ivy!) so i may need lots of support

also dream interpretations would be helpful ( once and a while)

how do you remeber dreams when you wake up?

When I wake, I think about dreams I want to remember from the night a lot, go over them in my head at least 2 times and then write everything down, as quick as possible so nothing escapes me, I also ((with the written descriptions)) draw sketches of things that trigger thoughts of the dream for me in my little dream type book. :3
PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:23 pm


hey thanks, that info was really helpful. i think my spirit guide is a cat, but i'm not sure. i'm not really sure where it came from either, although i did experiment with some meditation and so on.

is a spirit guide supposed to have a mind, almost like another side to your thoughts? like a concience, in a way, but only when you really need help or advice? 'cause i think that's what im getting here.

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Salere

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:37 pm


I tried APing today. Was semi successful. Kinda got a step down. I was all like, in the half alseep state thing, and I sudden was sitting up ( spirit self ) My head spun and I thought, OH wow! And then I got smacked back into my body. Kinda sucks, but I am eager to try again! ^^
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