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Ta Lu

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:45 am


>w< So pretty! I love them!
Its really cold were I am. It's about 32 degrees F here, outside. I'm not too sure about my house temp since I'm usually there only once a week, but it's usually cold. Ah, I need to measure the water temp, like before I don't live at home most of the time because of school, but I will be spending more time a home soon because of winter break. I should be able to tell you more information in about a week or so.

That's a thought about plants. What kind of plants do you recommend for comets?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:43 pm


Damn, that's cold. Where do you live? Alaska? eek

I think the best temperature for goldfish would be between 63 Fahrenheit and 70 Fahrenheit. If the water is to cold, this may be why the other fish have been dying. But do check the water temperature before putting a heater, and have some one check the temperature daily to see if nothing goes wrong.

Also when bringing a new fish into the aquarium, make sure that even after you quarantine it you don't 'toss' it in the aquarium directly. Put it in a plastic bag and leave that drifting in the aquarium for about an hour, occasionally adding water from the aquarium to it.

The plants I have currently are;
Aponogeton Ulvaceus, 69-74 F, I have yet to see the golds try to eat this one.
Hygrophila spp. 59-77 F, they love rubbing their bodies against it and occasionally eat a leaf, but since the leaves are big it doesn't do much damage.
Sagittaria spp. 59-77 F, this one tends to get a fine layer of dark green algea which golds often love to graze on. If the algea layer gets to thick it can suffocate the plant though, so it might require some cleaning. Just rinsing under running water or even softly rubbing the leaves will do.

I also recommend:
Vallineria, 59-72 F, looks a lot like the Sagittaria but it's leaves are thinner. A very hardy plant that tends not to get eaten, The male plant has cute white little white flowers that drift to the surface.
Potamogeton Densus, 50-59 F, I've never kept this one myself, but since it requires a low temperature I thought it might be good for your aquarium. It seems to be used mostly oxygenate and purify cold water aquariums.
Water Milfoil (Myriophyllum), 50-72 F, it has a tendency to end up as fish food, but that does depend on the individual fish. It's very decorative, but do ask the sales clerck fro extra information on this one, or look up it's latin name, because different "Myriophyllum's" have different water demands.
Water Moss (Fontinalis Antipyretica), 50-59 F. Locally we know this species as 'Wetterpest'. Which means as much as 'water disease'. It tends to grow quite rapidly and uncontrollably, so monthly weeding may be needed. Some fish love nibble-ing on it however, be it their leaves or the algea attracted to it, which is why it sometimes disappears quickly, leaving only ghastly bare stalks.
Eloda Densa, 60-68 F. Same discription as the Water Moss, just for a higher temperature.
Ceratopteris Thalictroides, 64-86 F. One word; "fish food". A lovely plant to keep, and apparently, in my experience, more often then not, to eat. I some times buy it just for that purpose; so the fish can have something to nibble on for a while.

Now bear in mind that not all golds will eat plants, but they do have a reputation for it. Some golds that never ate plants before may suddenly start with a new plant, or even an old one. Some golds may also suddenly stop.
In my experience the larger and firmer the leaves the less likely to be eaten they are. The smaller and softer the leaves are the more likely they are to become food.

A few other links:
http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/ponds/Greene_Plants in the Goldfish Tank.html
http://thegab.org/Articles/GoldfishPlantsLowTech.html
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/4468/gf_plants.html

Often the best way to protect rooted plants is to eihter pot them in pots, baskets or with fish-safe soil and cover those with gravel and just hope your fish are not to enthusiastic.
Some plants do require mild "airiation" and their roots should not be covered. I'd put a mesh net to protect their roots around them and tie that with an elastic around the stem.
Make sure it's tied securely but not too tight so the plant can still grow and it's saps flow won't be obstructed.

Hope this helps.

Irrlich
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Ta Lu

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:58 am


Oh nice info! Thanks!

Ahaha no. NOt Alaska. I wish. I live in New York. We've been getting some strange flucuations with the weather lately. I don't know why. *blames global warming*

Anyway. Its alright now. Still cold. I don;t think my fish is eating. Everything I come home I see food at the bottom of the tank and I have to clean it up. *grumbles* Maybe I'll go buy some frozen peas for my fish. Maybe then it'll eat.,,,I use to call it my little gluttonous fish, since it use to eat anything and everything so fast...now its just swimmiing.

I need to get some gravel for the tank. The old one is disgusting. You think smaller gravel or larger pepples are better for a tiny comet?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:13 pm


Hmm yeah, the weather really has been odd lately. We're getting rain outside of the rainy season now.
All the cactus are dying. So I too blame the global warming, there's no better explanation readily available to me anyway....
Not that I know much about weather... sweatdrop

Anyway.
Well, check first if he eats at all, maybe he's just being overfed.
It could also be that the cold is forcing him into hibernation mode, so slowing down his metabolism.
I'm not too sure on this though, since i have no experience with fish in climates under 25 Celcius.

I've always kept my golds with big gravel, much easier to clean, and that way i don't have to fear for them swallowing stones.
Not sure if they ever would, but, better safe then sorry.

Irrlich
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Ta Lu

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:33 pm


domokun I munch on my peas, but it isn't....=_= my brother says it good enough that it's swallowing for breathing so the smaller mashed particles too... I didn't feed it for a day but its still so sluggish. It's not doing anything just swimming in it's little corner. I even scooped it up into a small fish bowl so I could get a better look at it, but nothing visible seems to be wrong. I think I'm going to reconsider the heater.

Bigger pebbles? Ok. I hope its slowed metabolism.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:30 pm


My favorite goldfish are Shubunkin (not british)
This is my Shubunkin he's about 5"
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That pic doesn't do his tail justice, its very long.

Enjuku


snaky2319

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:40 am


I would have to say fantails.

they get swim-bladder problems alot though, witch is caused by swimming at the surface and gasping for air, usually that occurs when you feed them fish-flakes. that's why i am going to switch to pellets. confused
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:43 am


is it just me or is the comments getting longer?
Koi fish r cool tho mrgreen

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Irrlich
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:05 am


It's not just you, I see commets with tails much larger then a few years back, it's pretty cool smile
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:50 pm


I'm not a huge fan of goldfish, and have never kept them, but I would have to say that pom-poms or red cap orandas are my favorites.

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